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Originally Posted by jibucha
Martian is not 4K? :: this depends entirely on your 'interpretation of the 'facts' :: all that i have read and understand; i would disagree - it is definitely '4K' :: it's a shame that this is being disputed, given the outstanding efforts of 20th Century Fox :: confusion reigns
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No, it isn't. The _entire film_ is not a 4k representation, as certain elements of it where upscaled from 2k source material. Most of it may be true 4k, but not all of it, so it's not 100% true 4k.
I _am_ impressed that they went to a 4k DI for the UHD release, that is pretty awesome. As a result, I'd assume it's not possible to make the film look any better with existing assets. That's bound to be worlds better than just taking the 2k DI and upscaling it (and probably looks better than the DCP used in most theaters...
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Originally Posted by Penton-Man
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I was only going by the quote above from the film makers. 'We started with 2k assets up-converted to 4k'. Whatever that is referring to is NOT 4k, that is up-scaled 2k. Based on your post in the link, that sounds like all the special effects were done in 2k. Hopefully that just means strictly rendered CGI, and not any shot that was digitally manipulated, otherwise that's most of the movie probably.
And if the visual effect was applied to live-action footage, was the effect upscaled first, then applied to 4k footage, or was that whole shot just upscaled from 2k? (Sounds like the first option, but I'm not 100% sure.)
So, many (most?) aspects of Martian sound to be true 4k, but many aspects of it would not be. Thus, while I'm sure it looks awesome, and all the 4k parts are amazing (and the 2k upscales probably look good too), it is _not_ a 100% 4k source film. The film makers clearly state that in the image above.
Keep in mind, I'm not ripping on the movie or the studio in any way. I was simply curious about a list of movies that are 100% 4k (3.8k or higher) during every step of the development process, for every asset used (filming, vfx, etc). Based on what the film makers themselves have said, Martian simply does not meet that requirement, regardless of how good it looks. I'm not boycotting films that have any 2k elements or anything, I'm just curious about it...
I guess that would be the difference between my list and the one this thread is for- I want 4k throughout it's creation, not just the master used for the UHD.