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Originally Posted by NARMAK
PS5 will have UHD disk support and I have absolutely no doubts on that at all. I don't care what people claim, but streaming 4K is never ever going to be as good as a full fat proper reference level UHD.
The PS4 Pro didn't need UHD because whilst it's more powerful and capable of native and FauxK, it isn't mainstream adopted for UHD movies to warrant that drive being used and smarter to reap the extra profits. Even if a minority claim it's a 'premium' product, the bottom line and truth is that the PS4 Pro was marketed as Sony's top of the line gaming machine. Not a home entertainment hub a la PS3 marketing.
Between 2017 and 2019 we may start getting more news leak about the PS5 but if had to guess, I'd say Sony are going to be targeting native 4K quite heavily with the PS4 Pro being the best testing ground fe the future. Console cycles Imo are still in effect but we've just got a bit of an aberration in terms of PS3 having been longed out and PS4 gen having a mid gen power boost but look at the wider factors in both cases:
PS3 launched by Sony as a stealth weapon to drive Blu Ray adoption in the format war and didn't centre on gaming like its predecessors as much as a media entertainment centre and a high price point relative to the competition which had already launched a year before with DVDs. Then we see how much the higher price point hurt and sales had to really catch up with price cuts and solid games finally releasing. Xbox had the whole RRoD fiasco and MS lost a ton of money and had no reason to try and release the new console whilst still trying to recoup as much as possible.
Cut to PS4 gen. The console launched to great fanfare at both price and what it could do compared to X1 which had a really bad start which kudos to MS they've really turned things around and tried to foster goodwill but too late at this point and Sony has won the gen BUT then we run into a tech shape up. Just as we were thinking PS3 was going to give us 3D gaming as a taste and PS4 advances that, we end up seeing VR come to the fore alongside another resolution bump to 4K with HDR now in tow. Suddenly Sony decides they need to adapt to this change which they knew was coming and release the PS4 Pro whilst MS showcase the Scorpio concept. Now we've ended up with a mid gen refresh following mobile phones a la iPhone 5 and 5s etc.
I think PS5 should be the return towards a more generational cycle of upgrades. HDR will become defacto and at best, 8K launches the generation after for movies and then gets followed eventually by consoles a la PS2 SD gaming to PS3 HD gaming.
If I can probably guess, 2018 reveals with 2019 release would be possible but likely scenario is 2019 reveal with 2020 release.
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I feel like generations are now going to follow the iPhone cycle, the PS4 Pro is the "S" year for us, hopefully the next will be the full fat numbered year.
I would think they will be targeting 90% native 4K. Cerny has gone on record to say that a console would need to be pushing at least 8TF to have native 4K across the board.
The only trouble is we still haven't got native 1080p60 across the board let alone 4K. Makes me doubtful to be honest.
Another factor that we can only speculate on is the HDMI 2.1 Spec which is actually a pretty important for gamers.
Not only does it add 8K/10K video and dynamic HDR but more importantly for us is that it adds variable refresh.
'Game Mode VRR' closely mirrors the G-Sync and FreeSync technologies available for PC monitors,offering a "variable refresh rate, which enables a 3D graphics processor to display the image at the moment it is rendered for more fluid and better detailed gameplay, and for reducing lag, stutter and frame-tearing".
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Game Mode VRR could - in theory - see the complete elimination of screen-tear from console video gaming without the judder associated with traditional v-sync, and could also allow developers to target arbitrary frame-rates as performance targets as opposed to the standard 30fps or 60fps (though we wouldn't expect to see this occur too often as older screens will still be the main target). Although it is an HDMI 2.1 feature, the new 48G cable isn't required for today's resolutions - and in theory, this element of the protocol could be retrofitted to existing consoles paired with HDMI 2.1 screens (as we've seen in the past with PS3 3D and PS4 HDR support added to existing consoles via firmware updates). Of course, support in new screens will depend upon manufacturers fully supporting the HDMI 2.1 spec.
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I'm more interested to see this implemented in to PS5 than a UHD drive.