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Old 07-13-2007, 04:33 PM   #28
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Apparently these are superior pieces of hardware.

Again, I'm someone who bought a 360 at launch and kept it until August or September of last year and had it destroy a bunch of discs and I also remember MS's promises about how the software backwards emulation was going to be "great" and "no problem" and you can see what that's been worth even to this day.

So when I see talk like: "88 percent backwards compatible"... Whatever. It could be more, could be less. It's still a corner that's getting cut that just shouldn't be. There shouldn't be ANY corners being cut on these machines.
1. Hardware BC was only ever put in because the software BC wasn't ready in time for launch. In a way it was never meant to be there. So rather than taking something away it could be seen as "rewarding" early adopters with better hardware. Although it wasn't out of the goodness of their heart. They were in a bind to provide a solution at their expense. Which they did. For a year.

2. Sony isn't MS however. One of the reasons I DIDN'T get the 20GB was concern that the built in wi-fi would mean remote play would be gimped. I didn't trust them . Why? I had only used one Sony product in the last 10 years - the PS2 my son bought with his own money. I had no relationship with them. I've been rather impressed they have been keeping to their word with the PS3 functionality promised. My initial fears were unfounded. As many things have turned out to be..media server, upscaling etc. They didn't leave the smaller base of 20GB owners wishing they had bought the 60GB.

3. The PS2 AND PS1 software library absolutely dwarf the xbox library so it takes more resources and time but will never match having "PS2" hardware inside I would suspect.

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I just hate the idea that Sony is needlessly cutting ANY kinds of corners when they really shouldn't be, especially at these kinds of price points.
As I said they added costs for almost a year now until they could get the software emulation out and back on track to the original launch plan - from that perspective it's not cutting any corners although I understand what your saying.

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I thought the savings were going to be passed on to the customer and yet they want to lock in still at that prohibitive $599 figure and nothing else?
One SKU doesn't mean $599. It means one SKU. The current 80GB + MotorStorm is a Limited Edition. Not sure which region of Sony exec this came from either.

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Doesn't make sense to me.
Exactly. Because it doesn't

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MS isn't going to drop at all. Why should they when their direct competitor is making life easy for them by sticking to these higher prices.
They could and we don't know what the pricing strategy will be.

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At least Sony is finally going to see some big guns show up on their system in time for Christmas.
Huge guns and a few holiday season exclusive ones as well. Note: I wasn't aware the developers behind Haze were the guys that developed GoldenEye when they were at Rare. Makes this game even more appealing from a pedigree point of view.

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They have a real chance to strike back at MS now that MS is reeling from this bad hardware news and failure rates issue.
E3 was a watershed - first strike.

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This is how they capitalize on that? Sorry, I don't get it. Not everyone is going to want that MotorStorm game and yet they're going to be forced to pay for it if they want a PS3. 20 extra gigs on the hard drive is fairly negligible.
Not really known at this point I would say. Again look at the way they are positioning the PSP. Base package plus limited edition game bundles. The current 80gb packaging is a limited edition bundle alongside the 60gb base package.

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I think they really need to keep something alive at that $499 price point...unless this 80 gig MotorStorm setup drops to $499 for Christmas.
. Might be even better.

And don't forget the 5 blu-ray offer.
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