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Originally Posted by imsounoriginal
No doubt, but the whole enterprise isn't beyond saving. Just need to go back to basics -- solo movies, focus on each character, don't worry about the continuity and universe building -- and work back up towards another team-up. The last thing I want is all these characters rebooted again, and frankly Wonder Woman and Aquaman are already past the point at which they could do that.
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Aquaman didn't even get the first boot yet never mind a reboot!

But I didn't say that DC comic book movies were dead, I said the DCEU is dead. (Bury it.) As you say, they'll look to Wondy and another Batman series and all those Sirens spin-offs to keep the enterprise going but they can't half-ass the whole team-up thing, not again.
Heck, the thing about what Marvel did is that it's not even that goddamned complicated: apart from the obvious sops to the Avengers world-building in IM2 they let the other movies be their own things and tell their own stories, they just put a tag on right at the very end to keep it all connected. All the studios trying to replicate this can't see the wood for the trees, they feel they've got to stuff their movies chock full o' nuts almost right from the start. And while I get the BvS = IM2 angle let's be fair here: Widow and Fury and Stark aren't in the same ****ing galaxy as Bats, Supes and Wondy when it comes to classic comic book heroes, and to have the Trinity jobbing as team-up-movie bait in just the second DCEU movie always felt wrong to me.
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Originally Posted by imsounoriginal
Guarantee you WB wishes they'd delayed Justice League at that time. The "embarrassment" they would've experienced then is nothing compared to what they're going through right now lol
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I'd give anything to be a fly on
that wall right now, they thought they were going to fix JL with that Avengers guy but instead the situation has become an even bigger cluster**** than the reception that would've greeted Snyder's eventual cut of JL, had he stayed on the project.