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Originally Posted by alchav21

I was just trying to make a point that "Good Enough" affects both Digital and Physical. Digital Streaming has reached a point where Bandwidth, Equipment, and set up will give you outstanding PQ. If anyone is an elitist, it's the people that prefer Physical. Especially if they are judging with subpar equipment. Also if you can't compare with Bandwidth and set up, you are just going by what others have said and just quoting Specs and Bitrates and not actual observations.

Seriously? You are criticizing people for not making actual observations? I, and many others here, both stream in 4K and watch 4k discs. You can't even do the latter at all, yet you comment about it as if you can and have.

We do so with actual surround sound systems that not only allow us to evaluate the picture quality of streaming and disc sources, but that also allow us to assess the audio quality of both sources. All you listen with are wireless headphones, so again, you have no observations to share here.

You can not speak to either the picture or to the audio quality of 4k disc playback because you can't play 4K discs; you can't listen with a multi-speaker surround sound system. But when has actually knowing what you are talking about ever stopped you before?

As you do not have anything resembling a home theater, no av receiver, no speakers, and no 4K disc player, who are you to suggest that anyone is using "subpar" equipment? All you have is a mid tier TV, a basic six year-old blu-ray player, and a pair of affordable wireless headphones. That's it, but here you are implying that other people's home theater gear is subpar when you don't even have a home theater, at all, by any definition whatsoever.

Streaming can provide a very good image under ideal network conditions with most gear. There is nothing about it that is "outstanding" as one can easily find anomalies within the image. I am not saying that these faults are glaring, but they are readily noticed if one is paying any attention at all to the image.

Streaming fares worse with the audio and this is much easier to notice especially when listening with a surround sound system- something else that you are not equipped to do.

Better gear should give better results thereby allowing a source's potential to be realized more fully, but the source is the source is the source and that does not change no matter the gear being used. 4K discs are a better source than a 4K stream provided the content is derived from the same origins. Until you are able to watch and to listen to 4K discs with a home theater that can present both the highest bitrate 4K video and lossless surround sound playback you have no first hand observational basis from which to comment- again. Your impressions of what 4K disc playback can offer is a complete fabrication drawn from second hand accounts at best and steeped in your anti-physical media bias at worst. Stop telling us that we need to compare both 4K discs and 4K streaming first hand when we have already AND when you yourself can not do the same and have not done the same.