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Originally Posted by Pocketkid2
Can confirm, rat is still real, there is no visible grain in the image, but it doesn't matter at all because the restoration work is so good. Remember friends, it's not about grain, it's about detail. For every shot that looked slightly processed there was another shot that looked so good it could have been filmed yesterday. But I guess all you pixel peepers don't want to hear that.
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The problem with removing grain is that you’re essentially removing fine detail of whatever was captured. Grain is inherently part of film, so for movies shot on film, whenever grain is removed, you’re also removing detail on faces, objects, clothing, etc. That’s why us “pixel peepers” do not like to see the grain removed as it’s next to impossible to preserve the native fine detail while at the same time removing the grain. Hence also why those ProRes caps of the trailers show most face close ups looking smooth. Sometimes grain is removed, then the image is artificially sharpened to try to create the illusion of more detail. That’s even worse, as you not only removed fine detail by removing the grain, but then you also added digital artifacts by sharpening an image that lacked fine detail due to the grain removal.
It’s not like natural film grain was purposely added just because, and at least for me, I don’t like to see it just because i like the grain itself. I like to see it because if it’s naturally there then it means the natural, native fine detail was also preserved.
Sometimes grain is added intentionally in post for movies shot digitally, but that’s done on a case by case basis if the filmmakers decided to do so. But this was shot well before digital became a thing, so the grain should be there if they had preserved the natural fine detail that was originally captured.
https://richardphotolab.com/blogs/po...20film%20image.
And this is a 4K restoration. I.e. the whole point is to get the best image possible given the detail on 35mm basically caps around 4K. But it’s almost an oxymoron when you remove the original film grain but still present it in 4K. You’re removing detail but still essentially claiming more detail.