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Originally Posted by Telegram Sam
This is the problem. I don’t think Cameron does love HFR. Rather, I think he sees it as something of a necessary evil when it comes to displaying faster motion in 3D.
If he really loved it then it doesn’t make any sense to me that the entire film wasn’t at 48 fps. There can be no logical argument that some shots were kept at 24 fps because they “didn’t need” HFR since, as you say, all those shots achieved was the dreadful distraction of the switch that you (and most of here) experienced. The best explanation – if he truly loves it – is that render costs were lower for the 24 fps CGI, but I don’t think that was the reason.
Exactly this: He doesn't think 48 fps looks cinematic. And I wholeheartedly agree with him!
Personally, I score Variable Frame Rate at zero out of ten for being a successful experiment (and High Frame Rate itself at about negative one hundred out of ten…). It’s going to be really interesting to see where he goes with Fire and Ash. I assume that he’s shot it at 48 fps again, but will he dial HFR’s use up or down..? (I fully appreciate that there's a significant number of film fans who feel the same way about 3D as I do about HFR!)
Cameron’s come in for a huge amount of flak recently for the destructive work done on the 4K releases of several of his films - apparently with his full approval. What with this and his use of HFR, I hope the later stage of this legendary film-maker’s career doesn’t become most remembered for controversial reasons.
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Thanks Sam. Interesting points.
If I have a choice, I feel better about it when going to the theater, although I did see Hobbit 1 3D and Gemini Man 3D in 48 fps and thought those fared better than switching back and forth as in the amazing, mostly strong 3D of Avatar 2.
We'll see if he makes the same choices again with Ash and Fire part 3 Avatar.
I'm really happy about what Avatar helped inspire, which was a 10+ year home blu ray 3D run that we may have not gotten otherwise had it not been for Avatar 1 3D in theaters. 3DTVs and Blu Ray 3D were pretty much born to mainstream in 2010 thanks to Avatar 3D 1's massive success. What an awesome time to be a 3D fan all those years and thankfully still now as prices drop on blu ray 3D movies still available to purchase that may have not been of interest at launch on 3D disc.
I was watching TNT, which was playing Godzilla vs Kong on TV, and they had it sped up to what looked like slightly fast forward to smooth out the motions, so instead of heavy weight to Godzilla and Kong, it seemed like they shrunk down to human size and were fighting quickly in a Neon City playground, totally taking away any sense of heavy weight. Whoever is making that decision at TNT channel to speed up the "interpolation" or what it may be called, is affecting the sense of timing of the motions negatively. Not good, so that's why it's really important to have these films on disc in 24 fps as they may have been originally presented. Compared to a streaming site digital only where they can mess with it for a "smoother" look.
I was hoping for some information on Avatar 2's Blu ray 3D on who may have pushed for the blu ray 3D release in 2023, years after 3DTVs stopped being manufactured in 2017. A great move and I hope it happens again for Avatar 3 3D on blu ray 3D by 2026.