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Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau
Cameron has abandoned Aliens. He's said time and time again that he's not interested in doing anything more with it.
I think Cameron was referring to the franchise as a whole (as in making another Alien film), not in this case where he would/should be overseeing that the forthcoming BD is faithful to his vision.
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You're right. This is pure misinformation. Cameron was discussing his involvement with the franchise and future sequels. He did not mean he's not interested in how his prior work is presented on BD or any other future home video releases.
He was involved in the QUAD release (I believe it was his decision not to do a major remaster at that point as he felt it looked "good" already) so I'd be surprised if he wasn't involved in the new BD release.
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What I don't like is the revamping of a movie to cater to those that probably think that the special effects, pacing, action etc is subpar anyway. Predator is and never was your typical Sci-fi action movie.
This is not about just removing grain or using DNR. Its about changing a movies presence
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Yes. What's frustrating is that most people wouldn't have complained about the "film-grain" anyway. If anything they shot themselves in the foot because they assume everyone wants things DNR and in actuality there are more "purists" out there who'd rather it stay original and are vocal than their are people who would complain about NOT DNR'ing the image. When's the last time there was a major loud complaint from the fanbase for a movie that had "too much" grain? I can't count the number of movies, however, that have controversial releases on BD that make the purists angry. I'm bothered each time I watch my "Silence of the Lambs" BD because there's just too much DNR applied.
What's bothersome is that when these changes are made and a whole generation is exposed to "this" version of a movie it changes perception of the art form. I recently spoke with a friend about The Exorcist being brought to BD and how exciting it would be to see the original film -- and she went on to say how much the "spider-walk" scene scares the hell out of her. Her only exposure to the film had been from "The Version You've Never Seen" which is fine -- but it's one of two very different cuts of the film -- and in that case both are very different in terms of pacing, tone, etc.
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If Fox DNR'ed the hell out of it and people like it - so be it, let those people like it and enjoy it.. ..For those who prefer the original - so be it, let those people enjoy it.
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Except we're not upset that they are "enjoying" it -- we're upset that we are unable to enjoy the original film as it was meant to be seen. The original BD release is sub-par because of mastering issues and true fans of the film were hoping for a quality release of the original source material. In other words... fans of the original film are stuck with either a poorly mastered version of the movie on a poorly mastered disc -- or an overly polished and DNR's version on a better disc. Predator wasn't meant to look polished and "pretty" and while it's great "some" people are liking the transfer -- for serious film fans and for fans of this particular film it's disappointing because no option has been given.
And as others have mentioned it only leads to further situations like this one down the line.
This is just like the "full-screen" only DVD issues that plagued the early years when people had to complain whenever a studio would make the moronic attempt to release a MAR only version of a new release or classic re-release. Not every movie is supposed to look like "Planet Earth" or "Transformers" and that's not what BD is supposed to be about... and each time something like this happens waves SHOULD be made otherwise the next film to get such treatment is only right around the corner. I can't wait until they jack up the contract on every darkly lit horror film so we can SEE everything so perfectly clearly. It will make "The Blair Witch Project" and all those overly dark and scary horror films so much more watchable!
This Predator issue is about as bad as the botched 5.1 mix done for Terminator's DVD/BD release. If you wanna screw with the presentation go ahead but leave the original version alone for those of us who don't need everything dumbed down to the lowest common denominator.