I was at my local electronics store last night and engaged in a discussion with the sales clerk about HD and BD, i stated that i was a BD fan, well he got a little silent, i was telling him that BD was winning in just about every market by generally a 2-1 margin. Well, he shot back "well HD-DVD is winning in Africa." he also said some un-PC reasons why the are winning. he said that HD has more advertising down there. I thought this was halarious and walked out of the store. FYI i asked him about the war at the store, he said it was about 50/50