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Originally Posted by Deciazulado
Yes there's the case that trailers are often transfered in a way that we would call "flat", w/o artistic color correction, and optimized for that punchy video-look displays can give, after all they're made to grab your attention, while the movie transfer is color corrected to look like the 35mm film version. And the opposite can happen too: Most people prefer John Badham's Dracula in it's theatrical/4:3 video lush technicolory Disco era look, while the widescreen laserdisc and DVDs have a director approved Universal horror black and whitish look. (Which for me, made me view the film in a different light)
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Well, I saw it theatrically (as well as Talladega Nights- Digitally) and it didn't look like the BD. It looked more like the trailer, as did Talladega Nights.
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Originally Posted by Banjo
Sony on the other hand, I thought they did a good job with 'The Holiday'. It was never meant to be a great-looking flick, but it was somewhere enjoyable. Very sharp picture quality, I would say, good black level. Though there were a couple scenes where it seemed a little grayish instead of white.
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The DP on The Holiday was Dean Cundy, who has previously only worked on mediocre art house movies like Back to the Future, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Jurassic Park, and Apollo 13. So if this man can't make a great looking flick, I don't think anyone can.
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Originally Posted by Chad Varnadore
The fact that it's not consistent with all Sony titles, I believe is your answer. We've seen the same thing from Fox and others too, all from films that have been manipulated in post production, which such is often done after the trailer has been put together.
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But it's also not consistent with the look Cundy, Semler (dp of Click), and Wood (dp of TN) often have. I understand that films are tweaked in post to give them specific looks (such as Rocky Balboa), but there can't be any way that three different directors, working with three different cinematographers on three different films (all from the same studio) decided that their COMEDIES (which were all coincidentally released within the span of six months) should have the same dreary, shitty look. That goes beyond coincidental. I've also found Gridiron Gang (and a few others) to be a hair on the dark side and similar in look to the aforementioned three. Is it more likely that all of these filmmakers have chosen the exact same post-processed look recently, or that, perhaps, there is a kink in Sony's production chain that is creating similar looking, but unfaithful masters?
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Originally Posted by Chad Varnadore
Took me about half the movie to adjust to the look of The Holiday. But, adjust I did and ended up enjoying the show.
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And do you think Dean Cundy or Nancy Meyers would intentionally create a look that would take the audience half the film to adjust to? From your own review Chad: "the video's dynamic is awkwardly flat with possibly a little clipping of head and toe." Yet, you immediately go to "filmmaker intent" over "potential studio or post house error." Studios are not infallible and despite these all being Sony titles, that doesn't immediately mean that ALL Sony masters are being created in the exact same facility with the exact same equipment by the exact same telecine techs. I'm only trying to find out if there is a link between some of these titles that could be causing this, because I'm fairly convinced that these titles should and could look better and I want the most from my HD titles. As you mentioned, Fox's Sentinel had a similar look, but aside from that title (which I didn't think was as extreme as Click, TN, or The Holiday), I can't think of a single HD or BD title I've seen from Warner, Disney, Lionsgate, Universal, MGM, or Paramount that has this "popular" but horrible look.
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Originally Posted by Chad Varnadore
Everything else about the video was terrific.
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I agree, but with the contrast completely crushed to where snow looks grey and the image looks "awkwardly flat" it sort of diminishes the positives of the transfer. It's sort of like saying, "Sure, the right surround kept popping and clipping, but that sure is a great 5.1 mix!"