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PuzZLeR · 03-27-2007, 09:52 PM

Mmace:
Actually I just finished watching the posted web cast (at work LOL). It looks like we still have some time before this technology becomes more mainstream, but we’re getting there. For the sake of others that didn't see it, after much talk about photo/web apps coming out in 6 months, and even a serious computer crash during the presentation

, Adobe did finally mention an H.264 encoder that they are implementing for cell phones, but they were very hazy about it for blu-ray. You can pretty much substitute their talk about blu-ray editing/encoding with that we've been hearing for regular DVD the last few years. Thanks for the link.

Don Blish:
Yes, Roxio DVDit and Ulead MF, are still both very young in the technology - very basic features, and only MPEG-2. Anything more powerful is still Hollywood domain (as per the $10,000+ price tag you mentioned).

But I understand now. Like you say, blu-ray today is really only catering to the niche market of HD video enthusiasts who want the ultimate FULL featured experience, not the mass market (yet), which will eventually include enthusiasts of compressed (but lossy) video. Topics such as this thread are still very much pre-mature for the market.

As data, I know that my video will be fine for decades and I can pack it up, and back it up, in just a handful of BD-R/E discs. I also can bet that future BD players will have DivX, Xvid and Nero Digital logos that play these data discs (and their video files) some day soon, even in SD.

I still would love to play these files as video someday on blu-ray, but setting up all that today seems like it’s going to be a major headache, even ridiculous, since I may end up doing it many times till I get it right in the meantime. Heck, they’re probably still establishing final specs for the format even as we speak!

Don, I sadly agree with you that, chances are, I would have to do at least one more re-encoding/transcoding, (muxing, resizing, etc.) to migrate from one generational format to the next, such as to blu-ray playback (as video) sometime in the future.

At least, support, hardware and software will drastically improve to provide the least lossiness and fastest times when that re-encoding/transcoding day does one day arrive (I'm confident.)

Staying put is the best option for now and continue as is. In the meantime, I will in fact keep some of the more important source material in the back of my closet, just in case.

Thanks for the help. Hopefully others benefitted from this topic. Great forum!

03-27-2007, 09:52 PM	#5
PuzZLeR Member Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Toronto Ontario Canada	Thanks for your responses! Mmace: Actually I just finished watching the posted web cast (at work LOL). It looks like we still have some time before this technology becomes more mainstream, but we’re getting there. For the sake of others that didn't see it, after much talk about photo/web apps coming out in 6 months, and even a serious computer crash during the presentation , Adobe did finally mention an H.264 encoder that they are implementing for cell phones, but they were very hazy about it for blu-ray. You can pretty much substitute their talk about blu-ray editing/encoding with that we've been hearing for regular DVD the last few years. Thanks for the link. Don Blish: Yes, Roxio DVDit and Ulead MF, are still both very young in the technology - very basic features, and only MPEG-2. Anything more powerful is still Hollywood domain (as per the $10,000+ price tag you mentioned). But I understand now. Like you say, blu-ray today is really only catering to the niche market of HD video enthusiasts who want the ultimate FULL featured experience, not the mass market (yet), which will eventually include enthusiasts of compressed (but lossy) video. Topics such as this thread are still very much pre-mature for the market. As data, I know that my video will be fine for decades and I can pack it up, and back it up, in just a handful of BD-R/E discs. I also can bet that future BD players will have DivX, Xvid and Nero Digital logos that play these data discs (and their video files) some day soon, even in SD. I still would love to play these files as video someday on blu-ray, but setting up all that today seems like it’s going to be a major headache, even ridiculous, since I may end up doing it many times till I get it right in the meantime. Heck, they’re probably still establishing final specs for the format even as we speak! Don, I sadly agree with you that, chances are, I would have to do at least one more re-encoding/transcoding, (muxing, resizing, etc.) to migrate from one generational format to the next, such as to blu-ray playback (as video) sometime in the future. At least, support, hardware and software will drastically improve to provide the least lossiness and fastest times when that re-encoding/transcoding day does one day arrive (I'm confident.) Staying put is the best option for now and continue as is. In the meantime, I will in fact keep some of the more important source material in the back of my closet, just in case. Thanks for the help. Hopefully others benefitted from this topic. Great forum!