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Originally Posted by blakeyamc
I meant the actual photography, should've been darker. Yes the scene you describe would've been a fantastic addition. I would've loved to have seen that. The scene was just too bright. It's the same problem I had with the Path's of the dead (not the only one) and Shelob's lair. Not dark enough. I wanted to feel blind, hopeless and scared.
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Yes, I agree with you 100% on the darkness issue, and it gets back to Tolkien's use of light and darkness almost as "characters" that we were discussing in post 412 (?). "Riddles in the Dark" should have been the key psychological part of this movie, where we take a look to see what is happening in Bilbo's mind when he is placed in complete opposition to his comfortable life in the Shire. As you state, he is blind, hopeless, scared, and absolutely alone. When I read the story, I sense that Tolkien is trying to put us in his place, trying to get us to imagine what we would do, or - as everyone has been there at some time - to recall that feeling of isolation we have had in our most desperate moments. Instead, in the movie,
[Show spoiler] the rancor, falling, crashing, and screaming continues until Bilbo falls with the orc right to feet of Gollum, and the introspection never occurs.
A huge wasted opportunity for Jackson to put some substance into the film.
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Originally Posted by R3P0
I haven't read the hobbit so i am not familiar with that scene, Ill be honest with you the major step in Bilbos character I saw as someone who was opened to this world through the movie was [Show spoiler]Bilbo saving Thorin. To me thats where he found his courage and perhaps the scene you are describing was left out intentionally due to it taking away from the scene I am describing. I remember Jacksons notes on LOTR where he explained that when they wrote and scripted everything out and dropped it on film, sometimes certain scenes just didnt transcend well into film so they were omitted. Perhaps this is the case here. |
Bilbo eventually does
[Show spoiler] save the dwarves from the spiders in the next film, as he also saves Thorin from the Elvenking (where he becomes the "real" leader of the expedition) during his evolution in character. My guess is that Jackson prematurely added the Thorin rescue part so he would have something memorable to put in the first film before it ended.