Reflecting speakers from BOSE - Blu-ray Forum

Mica · 06-16-2009, 01:51 PM

Hi guys, I heard a demo from the Bose lifestyle entertainment system, I was really imressed of the sound ( a concert was played on dvd). It was like I was at the concert, even heard the people behind me sing along. Now I read these is capable with using refecting speakers, now I wonder can I just buy these speakers and play with my Yamaha receiver or will this only work with the the Bose lifestyle entertainment system?

Anyone has experience with this?

Grtz

ssmith3046 · 06-16-2009, 02:00 PM

Many years ago I was really into Hi-Fi and had a pair of the Bose 901 speakers. They were designed to utilize the reflecting sound concept. Took gobs of power to make them perform to their full potential but sounded great. The good old days of turntables and vinyl grooves.

Moefiz · 06-16-2009, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mica

Hi guys, I heard a demo from the Bose lifestyle entertainment system, I was really imressed of the sound ( a concert was played on dvd). It was like I was at the concert, even heard the people behind me sing along. Now I read these is capable with using refecting speakers, now I wonder can I just buy these speakers and play with my Yamaha receiver or will this only work with the the Bose lifestyle entertainment system?

Anyone has experience with this?

Grtz

Mica...welcome the the forums of blu-ray.com.
Bose is a taboo subject around these parts but to answer your question, yes thy can work on your Yamaha.

repete66211 · 06-16-2009, 02:06 PM

Many (but not all) Bose speakers have proprietary connectors, meaning you will only be able to use them with a Bose system. Take a look at the speakers to see if they have the standard 5-way binding posts or spring clip connectors. If they do you should be fine using them with any normal receiver. If they don't then you'd have to buy a Bose "receiver".

Bose doesn't have any secret technology. Considering their usually inflated prices you shouldn't have any trouble finding equally impressive speakers for much less or much better speakers for the same price.

Mica · 06-16-2009, 02:08 PM

Thanks for replies...haha I didn't knew Bose was that unliked, but hey now I know.
Anybody has advise on which speakers (not frome Bose ;-)) have also that same sound effect, in concert hearing people behing like in real-life?

Greetz !!

eclimax13 · 06-16-2009, 02:14 PM

doing some research on bose products will save you a ton of money...if they were properly priced, bose products would be a fantastic setup and solution for many...if you notice, bose has their own setup in any place you enter and it is a self contained area usually not next to other systems..there is a reason for this...mainly so you cant compare their system to a similar priced setup and hear what you should be getting for your money

eclimax13 · 06-16-2009, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mica

Thanks for replies...haha I didn't knew Bose was that unliked, but hey now I know.
Anybody has advise on which speakers (not frome Bose ;-)) have also that same sound effect, in concert hearing people behing like in real-life?

Greetz !!

look into the energy take classic or energy rc micro system if you need the small size..you've already got the receiver.

Mica · 06-16-2009, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eclimax13

look into the energy take classic or energy rc micro system if you need the small size..you've already got the receiver.

Hi, thx for your reply, could you please clarify "look into the energy take classic or energy rc micro system if you need the small size.."
Thx

JimShaw · 06-16-2009, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mica

Hi, thx for your reply, could you please clarify "look into the energy take classic or energy rc micro system if you need the small size.."
Thx

Google them and you'll find tons of info.

.

eclimax13 · 06-16-2009, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mica

Hi, thx for your reply, could you please clarify "look into the energy take classic or energy rc micro system if you need the small size.."
Thx

energy is the brand name...the take classic is the model...a 5.1 speaker system, as well as the micro...they are fantastic sounding speakers for the money and look a hell of a lot better than "blows" ...oopps, i meant bose...sorry bout that

Mica · 06-16-2009, 03:02 PM

hehe

ok I will look into to it, thx !

Badboyztn · 06-16-2009, 03:20 PM

I suggest you listen to the speakers before you buy (if possible) and don't just go by what you read on forums. Sometimes the advice is helpful and sometimes a product is bashed such as Bose or JL Audio. Are there better sounding speakers out there? Yep, but if you heard them and like them, then I would go that route. Shop around compare prices, check eBay. Then again, some may say my opinion is swayed, lol. I do have Bose 201V Fronts and I have also had Klipsch speakers and I like them both. Bought Bose this time because I got a great deal on them (eBay).

jomari · 06-16-2009, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mica

Thanks for replies...haha I didn't knew Bose was that unliked, but hey now I know.
Anybody has advise on which speakers (not frome Bose ;-)) have also that same sound effect, in concert hearing people behing like in real-life?

Greetz !!

the 901s are definitely a pioneer in its own time with developing the reflective speakers concept.

now, in regards to purchasing that would envelop you, you can utilize either bipoles or dipole speakers as your rears to get that effect.

bipole/dipole sticky

there are also a number of manufacturers as well of these surround speakers, and can be found in the same section.

as always, audition audition audition. the internet can only get you so far.

kfalls · 06-16-2009, 06:47 PM

I'm not sure how you want to use the speakers, but a direct-reflecting speaker is not ideal speaker except for general background music. When you look at their diagrams and read the text, you'll see the design is in direct opposition to good imaging. Bouncing the sound off walls slurs the image. You have direct sound coming from the speaker, and depending upon which Bose you have, up to eight (901) speakers sending delayed indirect sound. It's like the sound having multiple echos.

Also Bose doesn't use the best drivers. How many other speaker companies are still using paper tweeters? The only place I still see them used is in cheap rack or HTIB systems. For good highs you need a tweeter material which is very light and rigid, paper just doesn't cut it. Also if you check their specs (if you can find them in print) the freq response is given with a tolerance of +-10db where most other speaker companies provide it in +- 3db or less. With a tolerance of +- 10db this allows a 20db deviation across the freq range. It's too bad Bose hasn't put as much into their engineering as they do advertising.

Instead try speakers from PSB, Paradigm, or if budget is a concern, the Enerys mentioned earlier. Don't be afraid to purchase used. I've baught many speakers off ebay. As long as you know what you're looking at and ask questions about condition, you shouldn't have any need for concern. Good Luck.

06-16-2009, 01:51 PM	#1
Mica Junior Member Member since:Jun 2009 Location:Brussels - Belgium	Reflecting speakers from BOSE Hi guys, I heard a demo from the Bose lifestyle entertainment system, I was really imressed of the sound ( a concert was played on dvd). It was like I was at the concert, even heard the people behind me sing along. Now I read these is capable with using refecting speakers, now I wonder can I just buy these speakers and play with my Yamaha receiver or will this only work with the the Bose lifestyle entertainment system? Anyone has experience with this? Grtz

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06-16-2009, 02:00 PM	#2
ssmith3046 Active Member Member since:Dec 2008 Blu-ray reviews: 9	Many years ago I was really into Hi-Fi and had a pair of the Bose 901 speakers. They were designed to utilize the reflecting sound concept. Took gobs of power to make them perform to their full potential but sounded great. The good old days of turntables and vinyl grooves.

06-16-2009, 02:06 PM	#4
repete66211 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Kansas City area Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray collection:196 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:3	Many (but not all) Bose speakers have proprietary connectors, meaning you will only be able to use them with a Bose system. Take a look at the speakers to see if they have the standard 5-way binding posts or spring clip connectors. If they do you should be fine using them with any normal receiver. If they don't then you'd have to buy a Bose "receiver". Bose doesn't have any secret technology. Considering their usually inflated prices you shouldn't have any trouble finding equally impressive speakers for much less or much better speakers for the same price.

06-16-2009, 02:08 PM	#5
Mica Junior Member Member since:Jun 2009 Location:Brussels - Belgium	Thanks for replies...haha I didn't knew Bose was that unliked, but hey now I know. Anybody has advise on which speakers (not frome Bose ;-)) have also that same sound effect, in concert hearing people behing like in real-life? Greetz !!

06-16-2009, 02:14 PM	#6
eclimax13 Special Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Massachusetts Home Theater Gallery:19 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:2	doing some research on bose products will save you a ton of money...if they were properly priced, bose products would be a fantastic setup and solution for many...if you notice, bose has their own setup in any place you enter and it is a self contained area usually not next to other systems..there is a reason for this...mainly so you cant compare their system to a similar priced setup and hear what you should be getting for your money

06-16-2009, 03:02 PM	#11
Mica Junior Member Member since:Jun 2009 Location:Brussels - Belgium	hehe ok I will look into to it, thx !

06-16-2009, 03:20 PM	#12
Badboyztn Active Member Member since:May 2009 Location:Memphis, TN. Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:111	I suggest you listen to the speakers before you buy (if possible) and don't just go by what you read on forums. Sometimes the advice is helpful and sometimes a product is bashed such as Bose or JL Audio. Are there better sounding speakers out there? Yep, but if you heard them and like them, then I would go that route. Shop around compare prices, check eBay. Then again, some may say my opinion is swayed, lol. I do have Bose 201V Fronts and I have also had Klipsch speakers and I like them both. Bought Bose this time because I got a great deal on them (eBay).

06-16-2009, 06:47 PM	#14
kfalls Junior Member Member since:Oct 2005	I'm not sure how you want to use the speakers, but a direct-reflecting speaker is not ideal speaker except for general background music. When you look at their diagrams and read the text, you'll see the design is in direct opposition to good imaging. Bouncing the sound off walls slurs the image. You have direct sound coming from the speaker, and depending upon which Bose you have, up to eight (901) speakers sending delayed indirect sound. It's like the sound having multiple echos. Also Bose doesn't use the best drivers. How many other speaker companies are still using paper tweeters? The only place I still see them used is in cheap rack or HTIB systems. For good highs you need a tweeter material which is very light and rigid, paper just doesn't cut it. Also if you check their specs (if you can find them in print) the freq response is given with a tolerance of +-10db where most other speaker companies provide it in +- 3db or less. With a tolerance of +- 10db this allows a 20db deviation across the freq range. It's too bad Bose hasn't put as much into their engineering as they do advertising. Instead try speakers from PSB, Paradigm, or if budget is a concern, the Enerys mentioned earlier. Don't be afraid to purchase used. I've baught many speakers off ebay. As long as you know what you're looking at and ask questions about condition, you shouldn't have any need for concern. Good Luck.

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