Calibration BD, movie specific?

[SonOfArathorn]

Simple question....

Are the calibration tools that come with certain BDs, i.e. All Pixar releases, Nature's Most Amazing Events, are they specific to that BD? I ask because some of them are different. On the BBC NMAE BD there is a very advanced calibration tool that seems to do a great job of dialing in my settings and making it look positively stunning, but on the Pixar BDs the same settings don't always jive. There's no a massive amount of difference, but it's there.

Also, are any of these as good as just getting the HD calibration disc?

[SonOfArathorn]

No responses?

Has anyone even used the calibration tools in their BDs? Or did you all pay to get your tv calibrated? I'm looking for the most accurate settings but will not pay someone to come and do it for me.

[BluLobsta]

Ta-Daaa!!

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=91801

Very cool btw....

[SonOfArathorn]

Thanks... still doesn't answer my original question though

[BluLobsta]

Originally Posted by SonOfArathorn

I'm looking for the most accurate settings but will not pay someone to come and do it for me.

Sorry, I focused on that statement...

[SonOfArathorn]

No worries man. Just the calibration tools on the new BBC BD of NMAE is very in depth and sure does make a difference. The main question I have though, is that only for their releases? Is it that one specifically? I'll give you that it does make my other BDs look quite good, better than the settings I tuned by eye but still don't know if that's the standard.
Same with the Pixar ones, they make my Pixar movies look insanely good and my other BDs better than my eye-tuned settings, but again, not sure if they are specific to Pixar or not. They are slightly off of the ones from the BBC disc but that could be that they are just for animated films maybe?
May not seem like the hugest deal to some but after reading that there is indeed an industry standard for HD settings I would like to experience everything as intended by the film makers.

I ordered the disc from your link, but until it gets here I won't know how much different it is (if at all) from the in disc calibraters.

Anyone at all to shed some light would be appreciated.

[ClaytonMG]

From my experiences, using the set up test patterns on the Pixar discs gave me the exact same results as using the AVS set up disc. I recommend the AVS disc over the Pixar patterns though, as there are more (better) patterns.

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by SonOfArathorn

Simple question....

Are the calibration tools that come with certain BDs, i.e. All Pixar releases, Nature's Most Amazing Events, are they specific to that BD? I ask because some of them are different. On the BBC NMAE BD there is a very advanced calibration tool that seems to do a great job of dialing in my settings and making it look positively stunning, but on the Pixar BDs the same settings don't always jive. There's no a massive amount of difference, but it's there.

Also, are any of these as good as just getting the HD calibration disc?

I calibrated mine with HD basics calibration disc. There are many others and there is a code that will work on every blu ray that will lead you to calibration patterns. That bieng said I have heard that the Ratatoille patterns are not very accurate.

[aiman04]

I see some improvements after calibrating my TV using the DVE BD. I double-checked using the THX Optimizer on certain DVDs and they seems to have the same standard.

But the ones in the PIXAR BDs (tested with Wall-E and Ratatouille) are NOT accurate. It asks me to set the brightness too high, everything becomes grey.

[mreilly611]

Originally Posted by SonOfArathorn

No worries man. Just the calibration tools on the new BBC BD of NMAE is very in depth and sure does make a difference. The main question I have though, is that only for their releases? Is it that one specifically? I'll give you that it does make my other BDs look quite good, better than the settings I tuned by eye but still don't know if that's the standard.
Same with the Pixar ones, they make my Pixar movies look insanely good and my other BDs better than my eye-tuned settings, but again, not sure if they are specific to Pixar or not. They are slightly off of the ones from the BBC disc but that could be that they are just for animated films maybe?
May not seem like the hugest deal to some but after reading that there is indeed an industry standard for HD settings I would like to experience everything as intended by the film makers.

I ordered the disc from your link, but until it gets here I won't know how much different it is (if at all) from the in disc calibraters.

Anyone at all to shed some light would be appreciated.

My TV has 4 picture modes that I can use (Vivid, Standard, Custom and Cinema) you can change the setting on all four modes witch works out great because all picture qualities are different on each BD. That would be a great thing if picture quality was the same for each BD but it all depends on many factors that they use to shoot and transfer films. I watched the Dark Knight using the custom mode on TV which I had adjusted using the specks someone in the forum posted who had it done proffesionaly and BD looked great. Then I watched Lost Season 3 the first 2 episodes and pictue was much to bright. Then I wathched Lost season 3 using Standard mode on TV which I adjusted using A Pixar Blu ray and it looked great. So I switch each mode on TV to see which picture looks the best and then use that mode for what I am Watching. Most TV's have different picture mode's so get as many sources you can get and adjust under a different mode. This system works great for me.

[SonOfArathorn]

That's why I'm thinking the Pixar ones might be specific to those discs, I have the same issue. Brightness way high... but the settings I use for the Pixar movies makes the Pixar movies look damn good. Just not anything else.

Will post my findings when the calibration disc comes in the mail. I suggest some of you rent or buy Nature's Most Amazing Events and check out that cal. tool. Pretty extensive as far as calibration tools that are on feature discs.

Also, it's a quality BD as well... true Eco friendly packaging

[SonOfArathorn]

Originally Posted by mreilly611

My TV has 4 picture modes that I can use (Vivid, Standard, Custom and Cinema) you can change the setting on all four modes witch works out great because all picture qualities are different on each BD. That would be a great thing if picture quality was the same for each BD but it all depends on many factors that they use to shoot and transfer films. I watched the Dark Knight using the custom mode on TV which I had adjusted using the specks someone in the forum posted who had it done proffesionaly and BD looked great. Then I watched Lost Season 3 the first 2 episodes and pictue was much to bright. Then I wathched Lost season 3 using Standard mode on TV which I adjusted using A Pixar Blu ray and it looked great. So I switch each mode on TV to see which picture looks the best and then use that mode for what I am Watching. Most TV's have different picture mode's so get as many sources you can get and adjust under a different mode. This system works great for me.

See there IS a standard that works for all. I've read as much, there are settings that are supposed to be used for all movies etc. The Industry standard, as it were. According to everything I've read these settings are the ones used by all reviewers (the good ones anyway) and all studios during the post production process.

You shouldn't be adjusting the picture for every movie... Of course I have been wrong before

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by SonOfArathorn

See there IS a standard that works for all. I've read as much, there are settings that are supposed to be used for all movies etc. The Industry standard, as it were. According to everything I've read these settings are the ones used by all reviewers (the good ones anyway) and all studios during the post production process.

You shouldn't be adjusting the picture for every movie

That is correct and why ISF calibrations are a sciense and not just what the calibrator thinks looks best. There is a right image, and everything else is wrong (though most displays can only display to a certain % accuracy, and ISF calibration usually makes it around 99% accurate, but this varies depending on the quality of the equipement you have).

[mreilly611]

Originally Posted by SonOfArathorn

See there IS a standard that works for all. I've read as much, there are settings that are supposed to be used for all movies etc. The Industry standard, as it were. According to everything I've read these settings are the ones used by all reviewers (the good ones anyway) and all studios during the post production process.

You shouldn't be adjusting the picture for every movie

When you read a review for each DB they give a rating for picture quality. If there was a standard every picture quality would be the same. Said to say that they are not. I have some Echo Bridge 1080p movies like The Poseidon Adventure and Mysterious Island and picture Quality is poor using custom mode on Tv but Improves big time using Standard mode. It is good to set up a couple of different modes and you will find that you will use one mode more than others. Every disc I have used to adjust quality of picture the setting's are not even close.

[SonOfArathorn]

The standard is for settings, not for picture quality. There is a difference.

I will not be adjusting my tv everytime I think it doesn't look good. When there is a standard and you adhere to it, things look the way they are supposed to. That's when problems such as film stock quality and dirt etc become easily identifiable.

[mreilly611]

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

That is correct and why ISF calibrations are a sciense and not just what the calibrator thinks looks best. There is a right image, and everything else is wrong (though most displays can only display to a certain % accuracy, and ISF calibration usually makes it around 99% accurate, but this varies depending on the quality of the equipement you have).

Well said Suntory_Times quality of equipment is a big factor plus quality of transfer of BD.

[SonOfArathorn]

Of course it is... but he just contradicted what you were saying....

THERE IS a standard for picture settings.

[mreilly611]

Originally Posted by SonOfArathorn

The standard is for settings, not for picture quality. There is a difference.

Yes I understand that. But the problem is the same setting does not always work for for every disc watched. I would say 90% look great. Than you have 10% of movies where the blacks are not very black and colors are off. That is why it is wise to set up different modes to adjust for the 10% of films that dont look great but you can make to look better.

[SonOfArathorn]

We could go back and forth about this but I can see you don't have a clue what I'm talking about.

Again, I will not change the settings everytime I don't think it looks right. There is a right way and a wrong way and I will set my tv up using the Industry Standard for HD calibration. If you are adjusting the picture settings for every movie you watch I shudder to think at how out of whack your set is.

[mreilly611]

Originally Posted by SonOfArathorn

We could go back and forth about this but I can see you don't have a clue what I'm talking about.

Again, I will not change the settings everytime I don't think it looks right. There is a right way and a wrong way and I will set my tv up using the Industry Standard for HD calibration. If you are adjusting the picture settings for every movie you watch I shudder to think at how out of whack your set is.

Do you have any idea what picture modes are on a TV. You can run four different Calibration disc's to set your TV and every one would not be the same. Which of the four would be the correct one. That is why they have different picture modes on a TV. Than all you have to do is hit a button on your remote to see what picture mode you like best. You dont have to change the setting for every movie