Blades of Glory BD = lossless, HD-DVD = nada - Blu-ray Forum

goodstuff · 07-27-2007, 03:28 PM

Looks like HD-DVD is getting the lossless shaft now LOL

BLU

HD-DVD

kaliraver · 07-27-2007, 04:28 PM

Woohoo finally HD-DUD gets the shaft in something, way to go Dreamworks. You might end up being the anti WB.

MrBogey · 07-27-2007, 04:39 PM

I don't have the time... are the fans on AVS saying DD+ is good enough and that Paramount is the devil?

GaS · 07-27-2007, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBogey

I don't have the time... are the fans on AVS saying DD+ is good enough and that Paramount is the devil?

They are saying they would rather have the extras.

dialog_gvf · 07-27-2007, 04:48 PM

Well, at 93 minutes how could anyone expect lossless to fit?

This is probably a bandwidth issue. The picture would have been degraded too much for lossless to be included on HD DVD.

Enter A-man pointing finger at Paramount's move to AVC.

Gary

dialog_gvf · 07-27-2007, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaS

They are saying they would rather have the extras.

93 minute film, and the extras are causing lossless to be left off?

It's the bandwidth, not the capacity that is the problem.

And the magical week for BD just rolls on and on.

Gary

GaS · 07-27-2007, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

And the magical week for BD just rolls on and on.

Gary

I am wallowing in it.

phloyd · 07-27-2007, 05:18 PM

Top Gun managed to have TrueHD on the HD DVD.

The extras being in HD is the problem.

Most HD DVDs have the extras in SD.

goodstuff · 07-27-2007, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phloyd

Top Gun managed to have TrueHD on the HD DVD.

The extras being in HD is the problem.

Most HD DVDs have the extras in SD.

Ding Ding Ding. We have a winner! Let's see HD-DVD spin their way out of this one.

Spankey · 07-27-2007, 05:35 PM

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Let's see HD-DVD spin their way out of this one.

I prefer triple axel.

Titan · 07-27-2007, 05:48 PM

I was starting to think this the other day when Paramount started postponing titles idefinitely that maybe they are holding them back and will sometime soon go Blu-Ray Exclusive. One can only hope. Maybe they are just holding them back so they can do the same as what they've done here and with Face/Off go back and add some better stuff to the Blu-Ray version because it has more room.

Scorxpion · 07-27-2007, 05:53 PM

Paramount is just listening to BD fans what they want and follow them respectively.

Give us PCM soundtrack and Gorgeous PQ ,Lately are doing marvelous job in optimizing PQ and now Paramount is shifting up the BD with PCM soundtrack.

dialog_gvf · 07-27-2007, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phloyd

Top Gun managed to have TrueHD on the HD DVD.

The extras being in HD is the problem.

Most HD DVDs have the extras in SD.

93 min = 5580 seconds

2.4Mbps ABR for TrueHD 48/16: 13,392Mb = 1.674GB
1.5Mbps CBR for DD+: 8370Mb = 1.046GB

So, they were so tight they needed to save ~0.6GB of storage?

I think it is more likely they felt they needed that 0.9Mbps extra for the AVC peaks.

Gary

P.S. Bandwidth is far more serious a limitation than capacity. They can always add a disc for the extras if capacity is an issue.

07-27-2007, 03:28 PM	#1
goodstuff Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2006 4K collection:509 Blu-ray collection:6535 Blu-ray reviews: 85 Trading Score:6	Blades of Glory BD = lossless, HD-DVD = nada Looks like HD-DVD is getting the lossless shaft now LOL BLU HD-DVD

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07-27-2007, 04:28 PM	#2
kaliraver Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2007 Location:San Francisco Bay Blu-Ray SteelBooks™: (150+) Blu-ray collection:373 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:285	Woohoo finally HD-DUD gets the shaft in something, way to go Dreamworks. You might end up being the anti WB.

07-27-2007, 04:39 PM	#3
MrBogey Expert Member Member since:Jan 2007	I don't have the time... are the fans on AVS saying DD+ is good enough and that Paramount is the devil?

07-27-2007, 04:48 PM	#5
dialog_gvf Moderator Member since:Nov 2006 Location:Toronto Blu-ray collection:320	Well, at 93 minutes how could anyone expect lossless to fit? This is probably a bandwidth issue. The picture would have been degraded too much for lossless to be included on HD DVD. Enter A-man pointing finger at Paramount's move to AVC. Gary

07-27-2007, 05:18 PM	#8
phloyd Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2003 Location:California Trading Score:5	Top Gun managed to have TrueHD on the HD DVD. The extras being in HD is the problem. Most HD DVDs have the extras in SD.

07-27-2007, 05:48 PM	#11
Titan Active Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:San Diego Blu-ray collection:101	I was starting to think this the other day when Paramount started postponing titles idefinitely that maybe they are holding them back and will sometime soon go Blu-Ray Exclusive. One can only hope. Maybe they are just holding them back so they can do the same as what they've done here and with Face/Off go back and add some better stuff to the Blu-Ray version because it has more room.

07-27-2007, 05:53 PM	#12
Scorxpion Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Middle East,Lebanon Blu-ray collection:57	Paramount is just listening to BD fans what they want and follow them respectively. Give us PCM soundtrack and Gorgeous PQ ,Lately are doing marvelous job in optimizing PQ and now Paramount is shifting up the BD with PCM soundtrack.

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