Fantastic Four Blu-ray Question

[ChrisDilke]

Does it contain the 120 minute extended version? I picked this up on DVD for £3 a few years ago and thought it improved the film (still not as good as it could've been, but better than the theatrical version I think).

[LordCrumb]

No, its the Theatrical. The Extended is just the theatrical with the deleted scenes re-instated though..

[manicsounds]

Remember the bizarre 2 different versions of the theatrical cut of Fantastic Four on DVD, depending on the country?

The Planetarium scene is some, and the Statue of Liberty scene in others, and other cuts and differences here and there.

http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/a...fferences.html

Looks like the UK disc has the Statue Of Liberty scene, compared to the German for instance has the other, and lots more extras. Not a fan of the movie, haven't seen it all the way through, but why did Fox put this out without the extensive extras is beyond me.

But that's Fox!

[chip75]

I was thinking the same question yesterday, great minds.... Shame they didn't include the two cuts on the BD.

On the Spider-man boxset I know it has 2.1 but does it have the theatrical cut as well? We should have a sticky thread for all the BD's with Extended/Directors/Unseen/Unrated Cut's included.

[Sky_Captain]

Originally Posted by KaiGusto

No, its the Theatrical. The Extended is just the theatrical with the deleted scenes re-instated though..

Yet it's still 100 times better, IMO.

I hate the theatrical cut, the extended is actually a decent movie.
It lends more weight to the Dr. Doom. character, instead of the lightweight baddie he is in the theatrical version.

[SymbioticFunction]

Originally Posted by chip75

On the Spider-man boxset I know it has 2.1 but does it have the theatrical cut as well?

Yes, both cuts. Interestingly the 2.1 version has the 'punch over headbutt' replacement, specially designed to avoid problems with the UK's BBFC and their anti-headbutt stance at the time. Personally I prefer the blu-ray's US 'headbutt friendly' theatrical version. Which is on the UK bd. Kinda funny that the BBFC specifically objected to this one area of violence for a while...Batman Begins uncut '12' rating showed that it was now acceptable. Odd.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by SymbioticFunction

Yes, both cuts. Interestingly the 2.1 version has the 'punch over headbutt' replacement, specially designed to avoid problems with the UK's BBFC and their anti-headbutt stance at the time. Personally I prefer the blu-ray's US 'headbutt friendly' theatrical version. Which is on the UK bd. Kinda funny that the BBFC specifically objected to this one area of violence for a while...Batman Begins uncut '12' rating showed that it was now acceptable. Odd.

Fingers crossed the Attack of the Clones BD has the headbutt re-instated as well. Otherwise it looks like the force is strong with Jango Fett.

[SymbioticFunction]

Originally Posted by chip75

Fingers crossed the Attack of the Clones BD has the headbutt re-instated as well. Otherwise it looks like the force is strong with Jango Fett.

I'm certain that AOTC will be similarly uncut on bd. So certain that I have the UK set on pre-order.

[chip75]

'I have a bad feeling about this....' No I don't, I think you're right.

[Funktion]

Originally Posted by SymbioticFunction

Yes, both cuts. Interestingly the 2.1 version has the 'punch over headbutt' replacement, specially designed to avoid problems with the UK's BBFC and their anti-headbutt stance at the time. Personally I prefer the blu-ray's US 'headbutt friendly' theatrical version. Which is on the UK bd. Kinda funny that the BBFC specifically objected to this one area of violence for a while...Batman Begins uncut '12' rating showed that it was now acceptable. Odd.

Just curious, since I never saw the extended version: do you know if the 2.1 version featured on the US BD release includes this replacement as well, or is it only the UK/EU BDs that are "censored"?

[SymbioticFunction]

I'm pretty damn sure that the 2.1 US dvd version also included that 'punch instead of headbutt' replacement. Presumably because it was an alternate version...hard for my memory to be truly 100% certain since my movie quote sig says it all. *cough*

[Funktion]

Originally Posted by SymbioticFunction

The 2.1 US version also includes that 'punch instead of headbutt' replacement. Presumably because it's an alternate version...

Thanks for the info.

[Sithlord75]

Originally Posted by SymbioticFunction

I'm pretty damn sure that the 2.1 US dvd version also included that 'punch instead of headbutt' replacement. Presumably because it was an alternate version...hard for my memory to be truly 100% certain since my movie quote sig says it all. *cough*

Your right, Punch instead of nut in the US DVD 2.1 version as i used to own it.

[ChrisDilke]

While this thread is on the subject of Fantastic Four, Play.com have the 2-movie box set for £9.99, today only. Compared with £27 on Amazon and £33 on HMV, that is a huge difference.

http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/6...r/Product.html

[malcy30]

I thought with the new Fantastic Four film coming out from Fox there would be some type of reissue or budget pricing. Imagine my surprise to hear that both the previous two films FF and FF : Rise of the Silver Surfer are now OOP in UK and US and in the UK at least only available from resellers on the various platforms.

Is it correct that Fox are trying to bury the original films and pretend they don't exist ? Seems strange as even for films like Spider-Man and Hulk the originals remained in print along with the new films.

I see Germany where Fox are not the rights holder seems to be the only country promoting the original films and they also have a new steelbook. However would like to buy elsewhere as the German disks are only HR rather than full HD audio and I believe they use a different edit of the film to UK and US with some scenes replaced.

[Groge511]

All I can say is "I want a steelbook of RotSS!"

With the new one coming out you'd think Zavvi would do one. Especially since they're now releasing Elektra and Ghost Rider

[malcy30]

Originally Posted by Groge511

All I can say is "I want a steelbook of RotSS!"

With the new one coming out you'd think Zavvi would do one. Especially since they're now releasing Elektra and Ghost Rider

There's a combined FF and FF:RofSS steelbook in Germany just released but as I said it only has HR audio.

Seems odd Fox are now disowning the original two films in UK and US.

[Sky_Captain]

Avoid the German releases, they're shit. Fox brought out an AVC re-encoded version of the first film in various territories and while it's annoying that the extend cut isn't included, it's definitely an improvement over the old MPEG-2 release.

[Groge511]

Originally Posted by malcy30

There's a combined FF and FF:RofSS steelbook in Germany just released but as I said it only has HR audio.

Seems odd Fox are now disowning the original two films in UK and US.

Yeah seen that but i held out for separate releases. They then brought out 1 which i really liked the look of so bought that and just hoped they'd bring out the 2nd. Fingers crossed.

[malcy30]

Originally Posted by Sky_Captain

Avoid the German releases, they're shit. Fox brought out an AVC re-encoded version of the first film in various territories and while it's annoying that the extend cut isn't included, it's definitely an improvement over the old MPEG-2 release.

Do you know where got the new versions. Sounds like Paramount with Mission Impossible a real mess who got new versions a select group of countries whilst most suffer the old crappy version.