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Old 06-20-2010, 12:43 AM   #1
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Default All Panasonic 2010 Blu-ray players allow 64GB SDXC CARDS and in the future 2TB SDXC

All Panasonic 2010 Blu-ray players allow 64GB SDXC memory cards to be used for BD-LIVE and possible 2TB cards are compatible in the future

For people that have used BD-LIVE with 1GB of memory they will discover that most the time 1GB of internal memory is not enough memory when downloading several HD trailers for a single Blu-ray title. The 1GB of internal memory on the OPPO and other brands of players almost always fills up before the download is complete.

For those interested in BD-LIVE a high-end fast PC with a BD-ROM drive and fast Internet connection with 50MB per second or 35MB per second download over a Verizon FIOS connection is the best way to enjoy BD-LIVE since the computer speed is much faster compared to any standalone Blu-ray player. When it comes to standalone Blu-ray players most Blu-ray players max out at 32GB size for the largest size external memory that can be used for storage. The OPPO BDP-83 only supports FAT16 and FAT32 file formats and lacks support for exFAT. FAT32 maximum storage capacity on most operating systems is 32GB per drive (4GB is the maximum size of each individual file under FAT32) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314463

Panasonics amazing new 2010 Blu-ray players support the ExFAT file system and the SDXC memory cards (also up to 2GB SD cards and up to 32GB SDHC cards are supported) . The Panasonic DMP-BD45, DMP-BD65, DMP-BD655, DMP-BDT300, and DMP-BDT350 all support ExFAT file system. So a 64GB SDXC memory card can be purchased for use with BD-LIVE. 64GB SDXC cards currently cost around $220 at Amazon but in the future the prices for 64GB SDXC cards should cost less money since memory prices generally fall over time. Also in theory since Panasonic Blu-ray players support SDXC cards then when the new 2TB SDXC cards come out the Panasonic Blu-ray players should be able to use those cards also. 128GB of USB memory is supported for video playback on the Panasonic Blu-ray players but a SD, SDHC, or SDXC card needs to be used for BD-LIVE on the Panasonic players.

SDXC and the ExFAT file system is compatible with Windows 7, Vista with service pack 1 or later, and Windows XP with service pack 2 or later is compatible. Third party DOS and Linux support is also being worked on.

1. SDXC cards are between 48GB-2TB in size and use the ExFAT file system. 64GB is the largest size currently available, 2TB sizes are planned for the future.

2. SDHC cards are between 4GB-32GB in size and use the FAT32 file system.

3. SD cards have a maximum capacity of 2GB and use the FAT (FAT12 or FAT16) file system.

For more information on SDXC cards see the following link
http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/sdxc/using_sdxc

Panasonic BLU-RAY player 2010 manuals contain detailed information on the file systems that are supported and card types that are supported.

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Old 06-20-2010, 07:53 AM   #2
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Like I said before, more and more memory for what? BD-Live?
...And more malfunctions from the operational standard features?

But hey, Panasonic is first.
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The OPPO BDP-83 external USB drive BD-LIVE storage limit is 200GB


I just recently had a few more email communications with OPPO Digital. If one purchases a 200GB USB drive that contains a NTFS or ExFAT file format then one can reformat the 200GB USB drive using a third party format utility. If a 200GB USB drive is formatted as FAT32 using a third party format utility then the OPPO BDP-83 Blu-ray player operating system (BIOS) will see the full 200GB. One of the reasons Windows 7 and Vista operating systems limit FAT32 formatted drives to 32GB is because ExFAT and NTFS is a better file system when drives are larger then 32GB in size. OPPO Digital has no plans on adding ExFAT file support which would allow for USB drives as large as 2TB's (2TB partition size).

The following are a few quotes from OPPO Digital

"The player only supports FAT16 and FAT32. This means partitions can only be 200GB and individual files can't be larger than 4GB in size."

"If you use third party formatting software you can format the drive into 200GB partitions using FAT32. Vista and Windows 7 limit the partitions to 32GB, but FAT32 supports up to 200GB partition sizes."

Selecting a external USB 2.0 drive for the OPPO BDP-83

The OPPO BDP-83 uses a USB 2.0 connection for external storage. On page 40 of the manual it is recommended that only USB flash memory and certain hard drives be used. Only USB hard drives that have an external power supply is recommended.

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"The USB ports are rated to provide a maximum of 5V, 500mA power to the
USB drive. It is sufficient for all USB thumb drives and flash memory card
readers, but may not be sufficient for USB hard disks. It is recommended
that you use a USB hard disk with an external power supply."

OPPO BDP-83 Blu-ray Disc Player User Manual (PDF Format)
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FAT32 maximum storage capacity on most operating systems is 32GB per drive (4GB is the maximum size of each individual file under FAT32)
* http://forums.highdefdigest.com/1958220-post6.html
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Thanks for the info, I already read that. I was mainly talking about formatting a drive under Windows. Windows formatting of new drives is limited to 32GB when using FAT32. Unless of course a third party formatting utility is used. One of the reasons Windows limits FAT32 formats to 32GB is because ExFAT and NTFS are faster and better file systems when compared to FAT32. ExFAT and NTFS accept up to 2TB size drives and work much better with drives larger then 32GB. That is why all the SDXC memory cards that are shipped come formatted with ExFAT (All SDXC cards are 48GB and larger).

The OPPO BDP-83 operating system will see a maximum of 200GB of storage space on a FAT32 drive. Now some other brands of Blu-ray players might be limited to 32GB for FAT32, it all depends on what the operating systems in the players are capable of when they were designed. The good thing about the 2010 Panasonic Blu-ray players is the fact they use ExFAT file system so when those 2TB SDXC cards are released the Panasonic 2010 model players should be able to handle those size cards.

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Home Internet download speeds are now as high as 50MB per second download. As soon as 100MB per second or higher download speeds are offered then movie studios could offer encrypted 50GB movies for download. Consumers could one day purchase a 50GB Blu-ray image from an online store and download the image to a 64GB SDXC card. Or with a future 2TB SDXC card fit several 50GB images on flash memory. Also a 50GB Blu-ray rental in the future could be downloaded from Netflix or Blockbuster and the rental would delete itself after 48 hours unless one chooses to extend the rental date.
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