Will the prices for some BD titles double or triple?

[GasCat]

This bugs me as I was getting rid of some Blu to fund a laptop purchase. Now I don't know what to do. Wait for the price or sell them now. There are a few ways this could go.

#1 - Blu-Ray discs are going to be sold left and right. Their value will decrease.
I don't see this happening. We are now back to a stalemate 50-50. The world demand will always be there for Blu-Ray over HD-DVD. Domestically, millions of PS3 owners will not consider a HD-DVD disc, (myself included).

OR

#2 - The value of some OOP Blu-Ray movies will increase dramatically.
Being that the demand will still be there and new people are coming on board the demand for the OOP movies will be interesting to see. Now that some of these movies are no longer going to be printed (until this war is over) their value should rise dramatically.

OR

#3 - No one will buy any HD movies because they are afraid of the new turn of events in this war.
I don't see this happening. It will be as it was before. The new people coming into both camps being reduced. The fear factor which we already overcame is going to come back into play. It won't stop sales.

Oh well, I still am looking for three titles despite my wanting to sell others. I do know why Universal did it - profit margin. They can sell fewer product for more money(i.e. sell a 35 dollar HD-DVD or a 20 dollar Blu-Ray). Did they just create a market for rare titles? We'll see.

[Mr.Neutral]

I don't think #2 will happen. Simply because the movies will be available on HD DVD and it makes more sense to just buy the player and buy the movies at street prices then to over pay. How many would someone over pay for before they could have bought the player??

[GasCat]

Why invest in HD-DVD trash which is not the one you will eventually be with? If someone gave me a HD-DVD player I would not get any movies for it. The thing is inferior as a machine/codec. 1080p?No. More space for higher bitrate movies and HQ sound?No. We know the facts.

Would you rather have a beautiful girlfriend who likes nice restaurants or a girl with issues who likes to eat fast food? I already know who I want to marry and it isn't the one with the PMS. This is HD not SD. We pay more for quality.

[phil]

I haven't seen a single US Blu Ray sold used for above 24 dollars.

[tron3]

GasKat, I have often fooled myself into thinking, "The price of this isn't coming down any time soon." Only to find it DOES come down SOON after I buy the darn thing!

Blu-ray has to do something in response to Paramount and "blu-monday". Doing nothing will certainly hurt them. As far as we know, maybe Paramount went to them and said, "Hey, Bill Gates is giving us a bunch of money to go HD-DVD only.... care to counter that offer?" Maybe they "blu them off" saying, "you guys can't be THAT stupid." You never know what is said behind closed doors.

In short, very few titles will increase in value as they already make far too many than the public will buy. The rest goes into those bargain bins, and from there they get destroyed. Happens in retail all the time. They do their best to sell off this stuff because they need the shelf space. But even bargain bins eventually balloon in size if you don't empty it.

Long after the TRON 2.0 video game came out, I found a beautiful hint book for it on the Best Buy shelf. Was the LAST one. The price printed on the back cover was $19.95. But this was devalued to 1 penny! A single red cent! For a dollar I would have mulled it over as I am a big TRON fan, but I rarely collect for it. I bought it and paid for it with a single penny.

So, you can understand that my opinion is to sell now.

[jw]

Originally Posted by phil

I haven't seen a single US Blu Ray sold used for above 24 dollars.

I've sold 300 on ebay for 27.00 used, but for some reason I get better money for HDVDs, I guess becasue they are 5.00 higher new than blu-ray

[GasCat]

If there was a big production run I'd agree with previous posters but these discs have very limited releases.

PS3 owners will continue to dominate the HD movie market. They will want some of the movies which are going HD-DVD for the next 18 months. Those are the ones that will climb in price. Only some of the releases will be highly valued. The question is which ones. We'll see what happens.

[Lt. Drebin]

Originally Posted by GasCat

If someone gave me a HD-DVD player I would not get any movies for it. The thing is inferior as a machine/codec. 1080p?No. More space for higher bitrate movies and HQ sound?No. We know the facts.

Seriously?!? If someone gave it to you, you still wouldn't purchase any form of media for it?? That's just a rather clownish statement. There's a ton of damn good movies available on HD-DVD that aren't on Blu_ray and vice versa.

LOL...one thing I've learned from owning both formats is that there is no discernable difference, any longer, in both PQ and AQ. And, I consider myself to have a rather high-endish setup. The things you've mentioned haven't impacted my movie viewing experience in any way, period.

And, yes, Blu-Ray better do something. Paramount has been the best grossing studio so far this year. They're the first to gross over $1Billion. Content matters.

[erowe83]

Originally Posted by Lt. Drebin

Seriously?!? If someone gave it to you, you still wouldn't purchase any form of media for it?? That's just a rather clownish statement. There's a ton of damn good movies available on HD-DVD that aren't on Blu_ray and vice versa.

LOL...one thing I've learned from owning both formats is that there is no discernable difference, any longer, in both PQ and AQ. And, I consider myself to have a rather high-endish setup. The things you've mentioned haven't impacted my movie viewing experience in any way, period.

And, yes, Blu-Ray better do something. Paramount has been the best grossing studio so far this year. They're the first to gross over $1Billion. Content matters.

That is true, I own both as well (favor blu-ray) but some people on here criticize hd-dvd owners for blatantly lying or being incorrect when they are as well. HD-DVD does do 1080p... And even though Paramount has made the most moeny this year, I dont think Blu-ray is in that much trouble.

[Lt. Drebin]

Originally Posted by erowe83

And even though Paramount has made the most moeny this year, I dont think Blu-ray is in that much trouble.

Maybe, maybe not...only time will tell. There's going to be a lag before these movies come home.

I'll just say, that if you enjoy movies and have the means, you'd get both.

[erowe83]

Originally Posted by Lt. Drebin

Maybe, maybe not...only time will tell. There's going to be a lag before these movies come home.

I'll just say, that if you enjoy movies and have the means, you'd get both.

I completetly agree! The only reason I got a HD-DVD player was cause they had some classics (The Thing, Born on the fourth of julY, etc.) that I could not wait for any longer. I was planning on waiting cause I could do without Universal, but when paramount when exclusive, I said f*ck it and bought the hd-dvd player. Movies come first, format is a distant second.

I do support Blu-ray way more then Hd-dvd tho, cause I want it to win, anything on both I no question buy blu.

[Lt. Drebin]

Originally Posted by erowe83

Movies come first, format is a distant second.

Well, after browsing these and the HDDVD forums for a long time, most people don't grasp this and still spew the same mindless fanboyisms. Tiresome.

[erowe83]

Originally Posted by Lt. Drebin

Well, after browsing these and the HDDVD forums for a long time, most people don't grasp this and still spew the same mindless fanboyisms. Tiresome.

I agree. I understand the fact that by supporting one, the format war will end quickly so all movies are available but it does not look like this is going to happen anytime soon.

[GasCat]

Originally Posted by Lt. Drebin

Seriously?!? If someone gave it to you, you still wouldn't purchase any form of media for it?? That's just a rather clownish statement. There's a ton of damn good movies available on HD-DVD that aren't on Blu_ray and vice versa.

Sorry, I'm getting the cheaper DVD if it isn't on Blu. This is what most consumers are doing right now unless forced to buy the combo disc. I will not go for both formats.

Here's a long-term scenario:
Downloading movies on the internet will initially be a big failure but it will give M$ what it really wants - new tech to play with and companies that are forced to use M$ derived products from the failed movie download system. At some point M$ will wipe their hands of the idea but sit back waiting for others to take on the expense. These companies (and their customers) will need to pay M$; M$ will pocket huge revenues for licensing the tech to them and new M$ derived tech. M$ will move in more and take over some entertainment companies.

It's only a scenario and there is room for different actions but it isn't far-fetched given the PC market.

This is how things worked in computers:
IBM and M$ join together.
DOS is made for IBM.
IBM starts opening their own storefronts across the nation.
IBM tries to sell their PCs to new consumers.
M$ releases MS-DOS based off of their alliance with IBM.
PC clones are made by other companies.
IBM fails and pulls out of the PC market.
M$ spins off it's licenses to other companies and takes down any competition in software.
M$ becomes the behemouth that it is now.

Initial investment, stands back and lets others do the work, steps in and sweeps the competition using revenue derived from licenses.

You are fixated on your own viewpoint. Consumers and corporations have different motives. When either does something you find illogical there is something else going on. Go buy your HD-DVD's I am not buying any even if I had the hardware.

[mikesoba]

Originally Posted by Lt. Drebin

Maybe, maybe not...only time will tell. There's going to be a lag before these movies come home.

I'll just say, that if you enjoy movies and have the means, you'd get both.

If you have the means and get (support) both, you will, in the end, have neither.

As has been said before, there can be only winner in this war -- and if one does not win soon, people will be downloading mid to low def from the Internet or on demand.

Investing in both, rather than doing what early adopters do--decide which competing format will continue and which will die--will doom both. If you want ANY HD, you've got to get with one and fight the war to the end.

Sorry, but this is what this is all about.

[Mr.Neutral]

Originally Posted by mikesoba

If you have the means and get (support) both, you will, in the end, have neither.

As has been said before, there can be only winner in this war -- and if one does not win soon, people will be downloading mid to low def from the Internet or on demand.

Investing in both, rather than doing what early adopters do--decide which competing format will continue and which will die--will doom both. If you want ANY HD, you've got to get with one and fight the war to the end.

Sorry, but this is what this is all about.

I've seen a lot of people say this, but there's really no evidence to back this up. You can go back to previous events Beta/VHS, SACD/DVD-A, but this is quite different.

The longer this goes on, the more exclusive studios lose in potential sales to single format owners. As this potential loss increases, studios will have to consider going neutral. When this happens, things will change quickly.

I think right now, both formats have a health growth rate, so I don't see anyone giving up on either for awhile. Fight your war if you want, I've picked up both players and am on a nice private island watching the battle from afar

[bluskiff]

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