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Old 09-09-2011, 01:37 AM   #1
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Is this a feature of the movie? I noticed I tried to add a bookmark on a movie last night and I was unable to.
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Old 09-09-2011, 01:39 AM   #2
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No, they have had bookmarks for a long while now although I have never used them before so can't help you there.
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Is this a feature of the movie? I noticed I tried to add a bookmark on a movie last night and I was unable to.
Some Blu-ray movies have the "bookmarks" feature built in while other do not .
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Old 09-09-2011, 01:49 AM   #4
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Is this a feature of the movie? I noticed I tried to add a bookmark on a movie last night and I was unable to.
It's a feature of the disc, and it's there only if it was included by whoever designed and mastered the disc.

The bookmarking features requires that a disc be mastered with BD-Java; so discs mastered without BDJ won't have it. Most Warner discs don't use BDJ. Most discs from Fox, Universal, Disney, Paramount and Sony do.
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It's a feature of the disc, and it's there only if it was included by whoever designed and mastered the disc.

The bookmarking features requires that a disc be mastered with BD-Java; so discs mastered without BDJ won't have it. Most Warner discs don't use BDJ. Most discs from Fox, Universal, Disney, Paramount and Sony do.
I tried to bookmark live free or die hard and was unable to..

speaking btw it has the most ugliest disc menu ever.. I swear with the lag with the arrow buttons it has to be running some type of Java.
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Old 09-09-2011, 04:06 AM   #6
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I tried to bookmark live free or die hard and was unable to..
That's why I said "most". Live Free or Die Hard was released in 2007, when profile 2.0 players were just beginning to appear. Java-encoded titles were still the exception, and LFoDH wasn't one of them.

One of the advantages of being Java-free is that, on most players, you should be able to stop play and resume from the same point (as long as you don't power down). It's only on Java-encoded discs that this behavior disappears.

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I swear with the lag with the arrow buttons it has to be running some type of Java.
Even if a disc is mastered with Java, that doesn't necessarily mean bookmarking will be included. The person(s) in charge of mastering have to make a conscious decision to include it. Fox is a major offender on this point. All the recent discs they've mastered for MGM titles use Java and omit bookmarking. Anchor Bay does the same thing with their Weinstein Co. titles.
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Old 09-09-2011, 04:38 AM   #7
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So pretty much if one did not know any better it would be a guessing game?
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So pretty much if one did not know any better it would be a guessing game?
Pretty much.

You can usually tell when a disc has been encoded with Java, because it takes longer to load. With all but the fastest players, there will typically be a logo that shows on-screen to indicate loading activity. (Fox generally uses a kind of spinning dial.)

But as far as what features are included on a Java-encoded disc, it's anyone's guess. There's no standard -- but there should be. That's why I make a point of commenting in Blu-ray reviews when a disc has been encoded with Java, but omits basic functionality like bookmarking. I think it's bad design, and if sites like these don't raise the issue, who will?
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That's why I said "most". Live Free or Die Hard was released in 2007, when profile 2.0 players were just beginning to appear. Java-encoded titles were still the exception, and LFoDH wasn't one of them.

One of the advantages of being Java-free is that, on most players, you should be able to stop play and resume from the same point (as long as you don't power down). It's only on Java-encoded discs that this behavior disappears.



Even if a disc is mastered with Java, that doesn't necessarily mean bookmarking will be included. The person(s) in charge of mastering have to make a conscious decision to include it. Fox is a major offender on this point. All the recent discs they've mastered for MGM titles use Java and omit bookmarking. Anchor Bay does the same thing with their Weinstein Co. titles.
I can remember powering down DVD's and having them restart where I left off. But it's been years since I've played DVDs, so I can't give specifics. On the DVD, I don't know if that was enabled by the the DVD, or if it was the player's system that did that...
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