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![]() ![]() BDInfo scan: The English: Dolby Digital 5.1 track is described audio. English subtitles are English and English SDH. All subtitling is in white font. The only extra is the Sony Pictures Classics trailer, in Italian with English texts and burned-in English subtitles. However, the usual trailers ("Previews") for other Sony Pictures Classics titles (which play before the disc loads the main menu) are also included. Code:
Total Video Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track ----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ --------------------- 00002.MPLS AVC 2:30:37 30,794,115,072 33,194,652,949 27.26 21.70 DTS-HD Master 5.1 3542Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) Code:
DISC INFO: Disc Title: THE TRAITOR Disc Label: THE TRAITOR Disc Size: 33,194,652,949 bytes Protection: AACS BDInfo: 0.7.5.5 PLAYLIST REPORT: Name: 00002.MPLS Length: 2:30:37.945 (h:m:s.ms) Size: 30,794,115,072 bytes Total Bitrate: 27.26 Mbps VIDEO: Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- MPEG-4 AVC Video 21698 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1 AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- DTS-HD Master Audio Italian 3542 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 3542 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit) Dolby Digital Audio English 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -31dB SUBTITLES: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- Presentation Graphics English 28.148 kbps Presentation Graphics English 33.493 kbps Presentation Graphics French 25.981 kbps Presentation Graphics Spanish 28.505 kbps FILES: Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate ---- ------- ------ ---- ------------- 00003.M2TS 0:00:00.000 2:30:25.808 30,787,325,952 27,288 00014.M2TS 2:30:25.808 0:00:12.137 6,789,120 4,475 CHAPTERS: Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time ------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- 1 0:00:00.000 0:09:20.851 18,095 kbps 40,627 kbps 00:00:58.433 28,907 kbps 00:01:56.574 26,912 kbps 00:01:34.928 94,334 bytes 615,173 bytes 00:07:23.943 2 0:09:20.851 0:08:28.966 24,019 kbps 39,096 kbps 00:10:31.547 28,487 kbps 00:11:42.159 27,311 kbps 00:12:02.805 125,225 bytes 606,773 bytes 00:17:00.936 3 0:17:49.818 0:09:04.085 21,892 kbps 34,184 kbps 00:25:01.416 28,206 kbps 00:19:06.019 27,084 kbps 00:19:06.019 114,136 bytes 740,256 bytes 00:23:23.777 4 0:26:53.903 0:08:34.055 20,430 kbps 39,654 kbps 00:27:40.033 28,239 kbps 00:28:41.261 27,245 kbps 00:27:19.638 106,511 bytes 608,562 bytes 00:26:56.656 5 0:35:27.959 0:07:05.758 20,742 kbps 35,963 kbps 00:37:20.363 28,724 kbps 00:40:28.008 27,110 kbps 00:41:28.777 108,138 bytes 522,717 bytes 00:40:29.009 6 0:42:33.717 0:07:50.511 18,075 kbps 36,976 kbps 00:45:04.785 28,565 kbps 00:46:27.618 25,701 kbps 00:46:25.783 94,234 bytes 507,615 bytes 00:45:27.516 7 0:50:24.229 0:07:29.073 21,570 kbps 37,233 kbps 00:51:19.034 28,172 kbps 00:51:19.034 26,961 kbps 00:50:58.305 112,458 bytes 564,765 bytes 00:51:34.424 8 0:57:53.303 0:06:13.664 23,843 kbps 35,945 kbps 01:02:05.471 29,170 kbps 00:58:49.901 27,392 kbps 00:58:44.979 124,306 bytes 598,977 bytes 01:02:29.287 9 1:04:06.968 0:09:43.207 25,424 kbps 38,170 kbps 01:05:50.738 28,670 kbps 01:11:48.262 27,125 kbps 01:04:07.552 132,548 bytes 648,922 bytes 01:04:07.885 10 1:13:50.175 0:05:10.268 25,980 kbps 35,041 kbps 01:18:10.018 28,281 kbps 01:14:21.915 27,020 kbps 01:18:47.097 135,449 bytes 586,341 bytes 01:18:00.467 11 1:19:00.444 0:05:44.260 25,992 kbps 34,705 kbps 01:23:18.618 28,237 kbps 01:22:18.975 27,029 kbps 01:22:07.547 135,510 bytes 592,833 bytes 01:23:30.171 12 1:24:44.704 0:03:33.630 26,010 kbps 35,037 kbps 01:28:06.489 27,768 kbps 01:28:01.901 27,075 kbps 01:24:46.122 135,606 bytes 577,810 bytes 01:27:26.699 13 1:28:18.334 0:12:20.114 25,865 kbps 35,205 kbps 01:38:56.013 28,500 kbps 01:33:38.404 27,166 kbps 01:30:53.322 134,848 bytes 650,287 bytes 01:36:23.694 14 1:40:38.449 0:09:53.342 23,890 kbps 35,344 kbps 01:42:22.261 28,379 kbps 01:46:29.716 27,228 kbps 01:42:02.658 124,553 bytes 587,880 bytes 01:47:21.726 15 1:50:31.791 0:11:50.668 21,174 kbps 35,968 kbps 01:51:17.587 28,502 kbps 01:50:54.147 27,160 kbps 01:56:43.413 110,394 bytes 560,941 bytes 01:53:05.361 16 2:02:22.460 0:11:43.953 24,866 kbps 39,135 kbps 02:05:40.074 28,863 kbps 02:04:14.071 27,280 kbps 02:11:11.697 129,642 bytes 588,471 bytes 02:12:36.114 17 2:14:06.413 0:07:16.894 20,881 kbps 33,643 kbps 02:15:02.886 28,146 kbps 02:15:55.939 26,861 kbps 02:16:48.491 108,866 bytes 557,857 bytes 02:17:40.418 18 2:21:23.308 0:09:00.623 5,454 kbps 27,106 kbps 02:22:18.363 24,362 kbps 02:22:17.111 21,736 kbps 02:22:13.024 28,432 bytes 340,289 bytes 02:22:18.404 19 2:30:23.931 0:00:14.013 3,664 kbps 16,830 kbps 02:30:36.777 5,998 kbps 02:30:32.898 4,458 kbps 02:30:27.893 19,218 bytes 348,524 bytes 02:30:33.149 STREAM DIAGNOSTICS: File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets ---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- ----- 00003.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 9025.725 21,722 24,506,662,646 133,314,241 00003.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x86 DTS-HD MA ita (Italian) 9025.725 3,547 4,002,028,004 23,157,512 00003.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x81 AC3 eng (English) 9025.725 448 505,419,264 2,820,420 00003.M2TS 4608 (0x1200) 0x90 PGS eng (English) 9025.725 28 31,800,570 182,992 00003.M2TS 4609 (0x1201) 0x90 PGS eng (English) 9025.725 34 37,838,745 217,715 00003.M2TS 4610 (0x1202) 0x90 PGS fra (French) 9025.725 26 29,352,266 169,870 00003.M2TS 4611 (0x1203) 0x90 PGS spa (Spanish) 9025.725 29 32,202,841 185,518 00014.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 12.054 4,253 6,407,935 34,933 Code:
QUICK SUMMARY: Disc Title: THE TRAITOR Disc Label: THE TRAITOR Disc Size: 33,194,652,949 bytes Protection: AACS Playlist: 00004.MPLS Size: 373,125,120 bytes Length: 0:02:21.182 Total Bitrate: 21.14 Mbps Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 19272 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1 Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -31dB Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -31dB Code:
Total Video Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track ----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ --------------------- 00003.MPLS AVC 0:11:28 1,612,480,512 33,194,652,949 18.73 16.96 DD AC3 5.1 448Kbps DD AC3 5.1 448Kbps Code:
DISC INFO: Disc Title: THE TRAITOR Disc Label: THE TRAITOR Disc Size: 33,194,652,949 bytes Protection: AACS BDInfo: 0.7.5.5 PLAYLIST REPORT: Name: 00003.MPLS Length: 0:11:28.562 (h:m:s.ms) Size: 1,612,480,512 bytes Total Bitrate: 18.73 Mbps VIDEO: Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- MPEG-4 AVC Video 16965 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1 AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- Dolby Digital Audio English 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -31dB Dolby Digital Audio English 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -31dB FILES: Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate ---- ------- ------ ---- ------------- 00005.M2TS 0:00:00.000 0:02:06.918 292,085,760 18,411 00006.M2TS 0:02:06.918 0:01:06.441 151,590,912 18,253 00010.M2TS 0:03:13.359 0:02:11.256 275,552,256 16,795 00007.M2TS 0:05:24.615 0:02:11.589 358,477,824 21,794 00008.M2TS 0:07:36.205 0:02:19.848 326,934,528 18,702 00009.M2TS 0:09:56.053 0:01:32.509 207,839,232 17,974 CHAPTERS: Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time ------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- 1 0:00:00.000 0:02:06.709 16,682 kbps 30,981 kbps 00:00:17.350 24,488 kbps 00:00:52.343 23,016 kbps 00:00:19.978 86,946 bytes 762,573 bytes 00:00:47.630 2 0:02:06.709 0:01:06.483 16,493 kbps 32,538 kbps 00:03:00.305 24,245 kbps 00:02:56.509 22,143 kbps 00:02:15.927 86,041 bytes 521,348 bytes 00:02:52.463 3 0:03:13.192 0:02:11.381 15,092 kbps 31,234 kbps 00:04:05.578 24,881 kbps 00:04:05.578 21,523 kbps 00:05:00.299 78,707 bytes 492,529 bytes 00:04:11.876 4 0:05:24.574 0:02:11.422 19,921 kbps 32,783 kbps 00:05:36.961 24,300 kbps 00:07:12.181 23,145 kbps 00:05:36.961 103,861 bytes 534,481 bytes 00:06:52.161 5 0:07:35.997 0:02:19.931 16,924 kbps 28,888 kbps 00:09:28.109 23,710 kbps 00:08:48.778 22,172 kbps 00:09:34.073 88,259 bytes 585,491 bytes 00:08:45.232 6 0:09:55.928 0:01:32.634 16,213 kbps 30,936 kbps 00:10:30.629 22,758 kbps 00:11:10.085 22,127 kbps 00:10:49.565 84,605 bytes 683,321 bytes 00:11:18.302 STREAM DIAGNOSTICS: File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets ---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- ----- 00005.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 126.835 16,666 264,228,541 1,437,704 00005.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x81 AC3 eng (English) 126.835 448 7,105,280 39,650 00005.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x81 AC3 eng (English) 126.835 448 7,105,280 39,650 00006.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 66.358 16,524 137,062,366 745,779 00006.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x81 AC3 eng (English) 66.358 448 3,718,400 20,750 00006.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x81 AC3 eng (English) 66.358 448 3,718,400 20,750 00010.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 131.173 15,116 247,847,077 1,348,728 00010.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x81 AC3 eng (English) 131.173 448 7,348,992 41,010 00010.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x81 AC3 eng (English) 131.173 448 7,348,992 41,010 00007.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 131.506 19,909 327,267,864 1,780,420 00007.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x81 AC3 eng (English) 131.506 448 7,366,912 41,110 00007.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x81 AC3 eng (English) 131.506 448 7,366,912 41,110 00008.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 139.765 16,944 296,019,176 1,610,691 00008.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x81 AC3 eng (English) 139.765 448 7,829,248 43,690 00008.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x81 AC3 eng (English) 139.765 448 7,829,248 43,690 00009.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 92.426 16,250 187,737,673 1,021,544 00009.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x81 AC3 eng (English) 92.426 448 5,178,880 28,900 00009.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x81 AC3 eng (English) 92.426 448 5,178,880 28,900 |
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I just watched this tonight and it's a brilliant film. Pierfrancesco Favino is great as Tommaso Buscetta and the two and a half hours just flew by. If you like gangster movies or courtroom dramas or movies based on real events, then this is for you as this film checks all three of those boxes.
However, I must point out one flaw in the Sony release, that the subtitles are fractionally out of sync with the dialogue. This occurs in both the English and English SDH tracks (I did not check French or Spanish), and is most noticeable when only one or two words are being subtitled at a time, since the subtitles are about half a second late. It seems to improve as the film goes on, but that's probably because there is more longer, formal dialogue and when complete sentences are in use the issue is barely noticeable. I have a feeling this might be down to some framerate conversion Sony did on the master, but it could just be that the subtitles are slightly improperly timed. At the very end of the credits there is subtitle credit to Susan Adler who is also credited in the end credits of the film itself, so I assume these subtitles are an identical script to the English subtitles on the Italian BD. For what it's worth, there is a scan of the Italian disc online, however the source is an unscrupulous site, so bear that in mind: [Show spoiler] assuming this information is accurate, then the film runs at the same framerate on both discs, which is interesting as it looked a touch video-y at times as though it was a 25fps-->24fps conversion. The Sony does have a slightly higher video bitrate, as well as 24-bit audio, but I'm curious if the English subtitles are fully in sync on the Italian disc. I'm also just now noticing that the film is almost two minutes longer on the Italian release, which might be distributor logos (the Sony only has the SPC logo on both ends of the film and they tacked on a 12-second copyright warning after the film), but then, there were a lot of companies mentioned in the opening and end credits already. I think I'm going to get the Italian disc to compare it. Aside from the lack of English-friendly extras, I was initially put off by the low-ish bitrate, and I've noticed this is a bit of a habit amongst smaller European labels to not use the disc space provided, but the Sony is guilty of the same offense. The Sony also does have banding in at least a couple of places, which might be inherent to the digital source, but might not, and since I'm not particularly sensitive to banding, I assume there must be more of it than I saw. That said, small issues like this aside, and forgiving the subtitle sync issue, the Sony disc is pretty good, although it's very disappointing that SPC could not or would not do extras for this film, as they usually include a Q&A or an audio commentary. There was also apparently a Behind the Scenes featurette on the Italian BD that they could have subtitled and ported over, and as it was the only extra there, its omission is doubly disappointing. I guess fans of the film, and there should be many, as it is terrific and just won six David di Donatello awards (the Italian version of the Oscars), should hope ideally for a UK BD release with the extras that this film deserves, but for now, at least, the Sony disc will do quite well, barebones though it is. Last edited by McCrutchy; 05-14-2020 at 05:50 AM. |
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It was good but I also found it hard to follow, which happens to me on most foreign movies these days.
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I just watched it, and yes, it's hard to follow. I was exhausted by the time it ended. I know that a second viewing is in order, but I don't think that I will EVER watch it again. Yikes. It's a cross between The Irishman and Gomorrah (2008). Still, I'm happy that I saw it.
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This film is sadly somewhat cursed on home video as made evident by the very lazy and disappointing effort by Sony Pictures Classics. I thought that One Fine Morning was an outlier with its horrendous encoding in Sony's otherwise great output. But no, The Traitor came before and looks equally bad in addition to the out-of-sync subtitles.
Sadly I've forgotten about the subtitle issue when I ordered my copy. I then ordered my local German release (Pandora Film) in the hopes of an improvement. The difference in clarity and detail is striking - their encoding is fantastic and the German subtitles are in sync. The problem that prevents me from recommending this release though is Pandora's baffling choice to translate every single on-screen title into German. There are lots of them spread throughout the film which doesn't make it easier. I wonder what they were thinking - translating every title card and text in the film but leaving alone the credits. Then, there is the French disc. I got that one as well. I just had to. And thank God, this is it - this is the best disc so far on the market. Equally great encoding like the Pandora but the label Ad Vitam left all titles alone, meaning they appear in beautiful Italian. There are no English subtitles on the disc, but having a (within the limits of the Blu-ray format) perfect master for the video and a healthy audio as well is great news for fans of Marco Bellocchio and his really good film. I hope those with the ability to remux and the French speakers enjoy their discs! |
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