Receiver + Amp help?

[Scottyp3]

Whats the most cost effective option to run these speakers.

Emp tek speakers e55ti

• Recommended Power: 50-200 Watts
• Impedance: 6 Ohms

http://www.emptek.com/e55ti.php

Emp tek E56Ci center

• Recommended Power: 50-175 Watts
• Impedance: 6 Ohms

http://www.emptek.com/e56ci.php

Emp tek E55Wi surrounds


• Recommended Power: 50-130 Watts
• Impedance: 6 Ohms


http://www.emptek.com/e55wi.php

Thanks

[walmat]

I'm not sure of your question but if you mean do you need a separate power amp the answer is no. As long as you have an AVR that specs for example 100W per channel all channels driven that should be enough juice to drive those speakers. Don't worry about the sub it has its own built in amp.

[Scottyp3]

sorry i meant thats a good receiver that will power these

Or a receiver / amp that would do it


thanks for info

[Blu-Dog]

Originally Posted by Scottyp3

sorry i meant thats a good receiver that will power these

Or a receiver / amp that would do it


thanks for info

Any of the Pioneer Elite series will work, if they have ICE amplifiers in them. Take a look at the SC-55.

The investment in a separate amp for these speakers is probably unwarranted.

[walmat]

Any decent amp will power your speakers. As for which amps are good, that's up to personal preference. For entry level you could look at less expensive (under $500 Canadian) Denons, Onkyo's, harman Kardon etc. the list goes on.
If you want to spend more you can look at the same brands plus Marantz, Integra, etc.
More money usually means more power and features. For your speakers I wouldn't go less than 100W per channel as mentioned earlier.
Good Luck

[Kali157]

Originally Posted by Scottyp3

Whats the most cost effective option to run these speakers.

http://store.audioholics.com/brand/e...system-ii.html
+ SVS Plus subwoofer

Speakers:

2 EMP E55TiR Tower Speakers
2 EMP E56CiR Center Channel Speaker
2 EMP E55WiR Surround Speakers


Thanks

Hey, another (potential?) EMPTek speaker owner! Unless you are getting some sort of special price, I would get it straight from EMPTek since the company offers free return shipping if you decide not to keep them (ie totally risk free in home audition). If you already bought them, then nevermind and welcome to the (very small) family. I will show you the secret handshake once we get verification of ownership (ie HT pics). Handshake is good for free drinks at the bar downstairs.

As for amplification, what is your budget for an AVR or AVR+amp combo?

I have the shorter E5Tis and even those benefit from receiving good power. Personally, I would go with an amp. Then choose an AVR that meets your needs and won't break the bank (must have pre-outs). I figure an AVR is something you will have to change every few years anyway to support future codecs or connections, like most people did to support HDMI and HD audio codecs. So to me, an AVR may not be worth blowing a lot of money on. If you get an amp, you can keep that power through your next AVR upgrade. Anyway, that is my take.

[Almadacr]

Originally Posted by Mirage29

I just looked at your speaker specfictions on there website. The Tower speakers are 6 ohms and are only 87db which is very low (my speakers are exact same room effeiceny) There is nothing wrong with this at all. But it a speaker with 88db and get twice as loud as a speaker with 85db your speaker are only 87 same as mine which means they are going to need some good power to sound like something. I have no idea why people are telling you it is ok to power thease speaker with some cheap 100 watt receiver the tower speaker have a 150 power handling. One thing bad about the power amp in a surround sound system receiver is when all channel are driven they they give out a lot less watts. Somebody told u about sc -57 that is a awful receiver. all channel driven that receiver only give out 90 watts according to home theather magazine lab results. When you use a seperate amp all channel driven it can give the speakers the power that they need. If I were you I would get the XPA-5 by emotiva. 200 watts of power all channels driven and costs a lot less than some high end receiver.

I was thinking about the same , there really is bad info in the post's before and some confusion what is a AMP or a AVR/Receiver . All the speakers are rated 6Ohms ( there's not a lot of info in the link ) .

To the OP : The proper way and to get the best performance on those speakers is: You need a Receiver with pre-out's and a external amp to feed the speakers . What was said before to buy a receiver with 100W will do .... not at higher volumes , your receiver may shutdown and with all 5 channels playing you will be under those 100W .

[walmat]

The OP was asking a very open ended question and so I provided a very open answer. No need to criticize someone trying to help out. We are all here just trying to help each other and not to put each other down.
Have a nice day.

[mywxrld]

According to EMP Tek's website, those speakers can be powered with as little as 50 Watts. So if you are going to get a receiver just make sure it will handle a 6 Ohm load with at least 50 Watts per channel with all channels driven (this is not usually listed) and you should be fine. The last thing you want to do is under power any speaker so the more power the better. If you want you can get an amp and feed them more power to get better sound but it is not necessary to get decent sound out of them.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by Almadacr

I was thinking about the same , there really is bad info in the post's before and some confusion what is a AMP or a AVR/Receiver . All the speakers are rated 6Ohms ( there's not a lot of info in the link ) .

To the OP : The proper way and to get the best performance on those speakers is: You need a Receiver with pre-out's and a external amp to feed the speakers . What was said before to buy a receiver with 100W will do .... not at higher volumes , your receiver may shutdown and with all 5 channels playing you will be under those 100W .

It's a good thing my receiver has 110 watts per ch otherwise it would shutdown at higher volumes cause my speakers are 4 ohms with 87 db sensitivity.

OP, what you need is a receiver with a good amp section and power supply, the pioneer SC line should suffice, onkyo 700 series and better, marantz 6006, denon 3312 are all receivers that can do what you want provided you have a room of about 2000-2500 sq ft. If you are powering a concert hall auditorium it would be a different story. Power amp will have added benefits, and depends on your listening habits

[bobbydrugar]

I agree with callas. I think that one thing to keep in mind as all kinds of All ch driven talk is bantered about and how one receiver only does X watts is all and well but 2 things.

1.) you are not driving 8Ohm speakers which is where the number are most often derived for the All Ch driven stat (that and 4Ohm but at 4Ohm you can drive almost twice as much power so at 6Ohm load it would be about 25% higher then the Magazine article tests rate an 8Ohm load)

2.) The All ch Driven statistic is not a very realistic bench mark score. I know its a number and numbers don't lie except that its not very likely that you will be driving a 1Khz signal at full power to all your ch at the same time. In fact its not likely unless you are running all ch stereo mode that you will even be running anywhere near the Capacity of a "100 watt" receiver and its all ch driven limits.

Would an AMP be a good purchase? Maybe (borderline on probably) since as mentioned it will give good clean honest power over the lifetime of possibly many reveiver/processor units (making receiver/processor purchases incrementally less expensive possibly). Do you drive your speakers really loud (like aircraft landing in your living room or just pretty loud like busy cafeteria or just normal a speaking voice sounds like a speaking voice in the room or quiet. how big is your room? obviously a larger room would require more power to fill with sound then a small closed in space.

Lots of variables to work out. but to paraphrase:
Could a 100W/ch receiver drive your speakers: Yes
Would an AMP drive them better: probably (depends on the AMP but most likely yes)
Would it sound better on the AMP: probably (depends on the AMP but most likely yes)

Again just trying to be helpfull in a constructive way not intending to bash on anyone as I see everyone lending their experience to help the OP.

Thanks,
T

[sonic_debauchery]

Depending on budget, you might want to think about the Demon 4311 or the Onkyo 3009 or 5009 for the audyssey xt 32 calibration. That will then calibrate your SVS as well as giving you the most points of measurement.

[Mirage29]

I am sorry I should have used a better choice of words. It was my intnet to put others down. I was just trying to look out for him becuase I had a lot of promblems with my before I got added the XPA-2. I ended up damging them and having to send them back to the manufacture. When I saw that his speakers were 6 ohms and only 87db I wanted to help right away so that he wouldn't end up like me. Sorry for not wording things in a better way. But keep in mind thease 100 watts receivers are just same as high end ones all channel driven most don't give anywhere near a 100 watts some may even drop down as low as 50 watts. I saw on the website that is floorstanding speaker have a power handling over 150 being a 6 ohms speaker is going to steal more power from the receiver (power the receiver won't have) and having 87 db they are going to require a lot of power to sound good. When I got my XPA-2 it I felt like guy who just got his eye glasses. I was like wow I was missing all of this. Again if I were you I would get the XPA-5 by emotiva. It's a 5 channel amp that gives out over 200 watts all channels driven

[sonic_debauchery]

Someone said the SC 57 only puts out 90watts per channel, that is wrong. It puts out 115 watts at 0.1 % and 132 watts at 1% distortion into 8ohms.
That's with a 5.1 set up.

In 7.1 it is 110 and 123.

At least that is what I see at hometheatermag.com

[walmat]

Originally Posted by Mirage29

I am sorry I should have used a better choice of words. It was my intnet to put others down. I was just trying to look out for him becuase I had a lot of promblems with my before I got added the XPA-2. I ended up damging them and having to send them back to the manufacture. When I saw that his speakers were 6 ohms and only 87db I wanted to help right away so that he wouldn't end up like me. Sorry for not wording things in a better way. But keep in mind thease 100 watts receivers are just same as high end ones all channel driven most don't give anywhere near a 100 watts some may even drop down as low as 50 watts. I saw on the website that is floorstanding speaker have a power handling over 150 being a 6 ohms speaker is going to steal more power from the receiver (power the receiver won't have) and having 87 db they are going to require a lot of power to sound good. When I got my XPA-2 it I felt like guy who just got his eye glasses. I was like wow I was missing all of this. Again if I were you I would get the XPA-5 by emotiva. It's a 5 channel amp that gives out over 200 watts all channels driven

Don't worry about it. I have pretty thick skin.
As mentioned by others an AVR should suffice without a power amp and again I would recommend 100W per channel all channels driven and yes this applies to 6 ohm speakers. My speakers are also 6 ohm and I use an Integra 40.3 to drive them and they are plenty loud and this is with all 7 channels. If you want to spend more you can get more features of which I'd look for the better Audyssey XT 32.
Good Luck

[Scottyp3]

Thanks again to everyone for their help. To add some info my room is 11 x 16 x 8.

the main purpose of the thread was to find the best setup to run these speakers. I wasnt sure if my bets option was to find a good receiver or get a receiver + an amp to help it out.

Thanks

[Kali157]

Originally Posted by Scottyp3

Thanks again to everyone for their help. To add some info my room is 11 x 16 x 8.

the main purpose of the thread was to find the best setup to run these speakers. I wasnt sure if my bets option was to find a good receiver or get a receiver + an amp to help it out.

Thanks

What is your budget?

[callas01]

My room is slightly larger then yours and I dont use a power amp, and it gets plenty loud in my room.

[Scottyp3]

would prefer something less thank 1000

But if its a large difference doint mind a bit more.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by Scottyp3

would prefer something less thank 1000

But if its a large difference doint mind a bit more.

check out the Onkyos on http://www.accessories4less.com, there should be a 1008/1009 there that would be a great starting unit. If you feel it doesnt provide enough power for you, get a power amp.