Top Films of the 1880s POLL

[Kevin Holly]

Previous Polls (all from 1920s onwards run by Abdrewes and mjbethancourt; I have borrowed both their idea and their formatting, so full acknowledgement and respect to them)

The 1890's Poll
The 1900's Poll
The 1910's Poll
The 1920's Poll
The 1930's Poll
The 1940's Poll
The 1950's Poll
The 1960's Poll
The 1970's Poll
The 1980's Poll
The 1990's Poll
The 2000's Poll

List your Top Movies of the 1880s!

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Results



1. Sallie Gardner at a Gallop (1888, Louis Le Prince) (33 points)
2. Roundhay Garden Scene (1888, Louis Le Prince) (33 points)
3. Traffic Crossing Leeds Bridge (1888, Louis Le Prince) (31 points)
4. Man Walking Around a Corner (1887, Louis Le Prince) (28 points)
5. Accordion Player (1888, Louis Le Prince) (26 points)
6. Monkeyshines, No. 1 (1890, William K.L. Dickson and William Heise) (12 points)


The Math

[Show spoiler]First Tiebreak: Number of Lists appeared on (not required for this poll)
Second Tiebreak: Highest Single Number of Points From One Rating (this is why, Sallie Gardner at a Gallop is above Roundhay Garden Scene, as 13 > 12)
Third Tiebreak: Longest List Appeared on (not required for this poll).

Sallie Gardner at a Gallop: 10 + 10 + 13 = 33
Roundhay Garden Scene: 12 + 10 + 11 = 33
Traffic Crosing Leeds Bridge: 11 + 10 + 10 = 31
Man Walking Around a Corner: 9 + 10 + 9 = 28
According Player: 8 + 10 + 8 = 26
Monkeyshines no. 1: 12

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Rules

1. All lists of any length will be allowed in the poll.

2. You can elect to rank your choices, as described in 2a, or give 10 points to each film on the list. If there is no indication, the latter will be assumed.

2a. If your list has less than 20 entries (since less than 20 films were released this decade, that will be true by default), but you elect for the ranked ratings, they will be as such:

2ai. If your list has one entry, it will get 10 points.
2aii. If your list has two entries, #1 gets 11 points and #2 gets 10 points.
2aiii. If your list has three entries, #1 gets 11 points and #2 gets 10 points and #3 gets 9 points.
2aiv. If your list has four entries, #1 gets 12 points and #2 gets 11 points and #3 gets 10 points and #4 gets 9 points.
etc.

3. The poll will close in a month, on April 3, 2014..

4. As there are less than 20 films from this decade, there may be some contention as to including or excluding certain films (I imagine Sallie Gardner at a Gallop may be controversial). A small note might be appreciate if you include something that is less clearly a "film." Also, IMDB lists a few more films from this decade, but they appear to be lost, if anyone has access to them, that would be cool.

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My List

1. Roundhay Garden Scene (1888, Louis Le Prince) (12 points)
2. Traffic Crossing Leeds Bridge (1888, Louis Le Prince) (11 points)
3. Sallie Gardner at a Gallop (1880, Eadweard Muybridge) (10 points)
4. Man Walking Around A Corner (1887, Louis Le Prince) (9 points)
5. Accordion Player (1888, Louis Le Prince) (8 points)

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Fun Fact: Many (most) films from this decade (the ones which are not lost, anyways) can be easily viewed for free on YouTube, including all of my list! And they are short enough that one can watch some and make a list in only a couple minutes.

[Elandyll]

Funny.

I will go ahead and take this as both a joke thread and a parody of the multiplication of the polls of this kind of the forums and say: well done sir, well done.

[Scottie]

You haven't seen Sallie Gardner At A Gallop (1880)?

[Kevin Holly]

Originally Posted by Elandyll

Funny.

I will go ahead and take this as both a joke thread and a parody of the multiplication of the polls of this kind of the forums and say: well done sir, well done.

It was just that Andrew and MJ started their series with the 1920s, which struck me as arbitrary. So I went ahead and did some for the previous decades, and they have reached their logical conclusion here. That being said, someone could easily make a new topic:

Top 20 Inventions Which Acted as Precursors to Film POLL

Or something like

Top 20 Film Directors POLL
Top 20 Actors POLL

etc., or even

Top 20 Films of the 1900s (Century) POLL

Although that would be a bit tired and contrived at this point.

Originally Posted by iScottie

You haven't seen Sallie Gardner At A Gallop (1880)?

Ah, see, I knew controversy would arise.

Yes, IMDB lists it as 1880, but some sources say 1878, and so on and so forth. Another issue could P.J.C. Janssen's 1888 film, Passage de Venus. Is it this thing?:

1874 Pierre Jules César Janssen - Passage de Venus - YouTube

But the video's title lists it as 1874 - and the video's uploaded has a bunch of other pre-1880 "films" as well on his channel. So who knows where to draw the line? Rest assured, I won't be going further back than this decade, although people are welcome to explore the origins.

Anyways, if a convincing point can be made here for Garden At a Gallop as a film, and as being from 1880 rather than 1878 (or, for that matter, Passage de Venus or anything else), I would put it on my list. Certainly feel free to put it on your own, I will count it.

[Scottie]

A lot of folks consider Sallie Gardner At A Gallop as an 1880 film because in 1878, the film was being experimented and worked on, but it did not premiere anywhere until 1880.

[slimdude]

1880s? That was the era of silent movies.

[Kevin Holly]

Originally Posted by iScottie

A lot of folks consider Sallie Gardner At A Gallop as an 1880 film because in 1878, the film was being experimented and worked on, but it did not premiere anywhere until 1880.

Ah, thanks for clearing that up. Some would argue it's not even a film per se anyways, and I admit that the 7 year span between the "first" and "second" "film" is kind of grating to me.

That being said, I'll go ahead and put it on my list.

I might add that I am going to go ahead and count you in for a 1-entry list, thus giving 10 points to Sallie Gardner.

Originally Posted by slimdude

1880s? That was the era of silent movies.

Well, the 1880s could more accurately be described as the era of people trying to figure out what exactly a movie was.

I would generally put "the era of silent movies" decades later, from around 1915 (Birth of a Nation) to 1927 (Jazz Singer). The in-between time was mostly silent shorts.

And I get a sense that "silent" is a perjorative term coming from you

[Scottie]

Originally Posted by Kevin Holly

Ah, thanks for clearing that up. Some would argue it's not even a film per se anyways, and I admit that the 7 year span between the "first" and "second" "film" is kind of grating to me.

That being said, I'll go ahead and put it on my list.

I might add that I am going to go ahead and count you in for a 1-entry list, thus giving 10 points to Sallie Gardner.

Sure!

Here's my order (even amount of points)

01. Traffic Crossing Leeds Bridge (1888)
02. Roundhay Garden Scene (1888)
03. Man Walking Around A Corner (1887)
04. Sallie Gardner At A Gallop (1880)
05. Accordion Player (1888)

[W0m6at]

Here's my (ranked) list:

1. Sallie Gardner at a Gallop (1880)
2. Monkeyshines (1889 or 1890)
3. Roundhay Garden Scene (1888)
4. Traffic Crossing Leeds Bridge (1888)
5. Man Walking Around A Corner (1887)
6. Accordion Player (1888)

I shall endeavour to track down and watch Sallie Gardner At A Gallop. Wikipedia let me down by omitting that one from their list of 1880s films.

[Kevin Holly]

Thanks Scottie.

Originally Posted by W0m6at

Here's my (ranked) list:

1. Monkeyshines (1889 or 1890)
2. Roundhay Garden Scene (1888)
3. Traffic Crossing Leeds Bridge (1888)
4. Man Walking Around A Corner (1887)
5. Accordion Player (1888)

I shall endeavour to track down and watch Sallie Gardner At A Gallop. Wikipedia let me down by omitting that one from their list of 1880s films.

Yeah, Monkeyshines no. 1 was another one I thought might cause controversy. I'll allow individual voters to decide for themselves, but for the record, IMDB lists it as a 1890 film.

And Sallie Gardner at a Gallop can be watched for free on YouTube:

Race Horse First Film Ever 1878 Eadweard Muybridge - YouTube

And Wikipedia probably let you down because they probably consider to be a (the) 1878 film.

Thanks for participating again.

[W0m6at]

Two reasons I've marked Sallie Gardner at a Gallop as 1880.
1) (This would be enough in its own right for me)

Originally Posted by iScottie

A lot of folks consider Sallie Gardner At A Gallop as an 1880 film because in 1878, the film was being experimented and worked on, but it did not premiere anywhere until 1880.

2) If we're not doing 1870s, then the 1880s poll to me is 1870s-1880s poll.

I don't agree with the idea that people have about ranking something a favourite because of its "significance", but that said, Sallie Gardner at a Gallop is such an important film. It informed physiology for one.
It's hard for me to ignore its importance, but it's at #1 because I find it oddly exciting.

[stvn1974]

Abe Vigoda made his feature film debut during this year. Classic stuff.

[MrBlonde]

Originally Posted by Kevin Holly;8878843

And Sallie Gardner at a Gallop can be watched for free on YouTube:

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEqccPhsqgA"

Race Horse First Film Ever 1878 Eadweard Muybridge - YouTube[/url]

And Wikipedia probably let you down because they probably consider to be a (the) 1878 film.

Thanks for participating again.

Riveting

[slimdude]

Originally Posted by Kevin Holly

Well, the 1880s could more accurately be described as the era of people trying to figure out what exactly a movie was.

I would generally put "the era of silent movies" decades later, from around 1915 (Birth of a Nation) to 1927 (Jazz Singer). The in-between time was mostly silent shorts.

And I get a sense that "silent" is a perjorative term coming from you

No because, I doubt very much if there are any forum members here, who is that old, and was born in the 1800s, to even remember, nor have seen anything that was made in that era.

[MrBlonde]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7saH58usq4

This is the greatest film I have ever seen.

[slimdude]

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7saH58usq4

This is the greatest film I have ever seen.

Pinocchio, your nose is growing because it's not a film! It was a short documentary.

[Kevin Holly]

Two Weeks Until The Poll Closes

[Elandyll]

Originally Posted by Kevin Holly

...

Well, the 1880s could more accurately be described as the era of people trying to figure out what exactly a movie was....

I would go farther and say it was mostly about experimental "tech" and messing around with stuff that projected images.

The actual process of "cinematography" (hence "films") is generally agreed to have started around 1895-1896 (the machine the Lumiere Brothers were basing their process having been patented in 1894).

So ... you were serious I see.

Carry on

[Kevin Holly]

Originally Posted by Elandyll

I would go farther and say it was mostly about experimental "tech" and messing around with stuff that projected images.

The actual process of "cinematography" (hence "films") is generally agreed to have started around 1895-1896 (the machine the Lumiere Brothers were basing their process having been patented in 1894).

So ... you were serious I see.

Carry on

Thank you for your input.

We would love for you to cast your ballot and give points to your favourite films from this mostly forgotten era, but don't feel obligated.



That being said, I may yet make a joke topic.

[xander]

Some strong choices here across the board. I'll have to catch up on a few more when I get a spare 15 minutes (don't know when that will be) to watch the rest and make an informed decision and settle my list.

So far, I'm leaning towards this one, but it's such an obvious pick as a genre classic I don't want to seem like I was biased before the poll went up.

film des freres LUMIERE (1885) - YouTube

Also, everything in this thread is better than The Counselor.