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Default Top 20 films of the 1910s POLL

Previous Polls (run by Abdrewes and mjbethancourt; I have borrowed both their idea and their formatting, so full acknowledgement and respect to them)

The 1920's Poll
The 1930's Poll
The 1940's Poll
The 1950's Poll
The 1960's Poll
The 1970's Poll
The 1980's Poll
The 1990's Poll

List your Top 20 Movies of the 1910s

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Results



1. Intolerance (1916, D. W. Griffith) (70 points)
2. The Birth of a Nation (1915, D. W. Griffith) (65 points)
3. Regeneration (1915, Raoul Walsh) (35 points)
4. The Immigrant (1917, Charles Chaplin) (29 points)
5. Cabiria (1914, Giovanni Pastrone) (28 points)
6. Broken Blossoms (1919,D. W. Griffith) (25 points)
7. Male and Female (1919, Cecil B. DeMille) (24 points)
8. Re Lear (King Lear) (1910, Giuseppe de Liguoro) (24 points)
9. Les Vampires (1915, Louis Feuillade) (23 points)
10. J'Accuse (1919, Abel Gance) (20 points)
11. A Girl's Folly (1917, Maurice Tourneur) (19 points)
12. Bucking Broadway (1917, John Ford) (18 points)
13. Victory (1919, Maurice Tourneur) (18 points)
14. Frankenstein (1910, J. Searle Dawley) (17 points)
15. The Mother and the Law (1919, D. W. Griffith) (17 points)
16. The Squaw Man (1914, Oscar Apfel and Cecil B. DeMille) (16 points)
17. The Golden Chance (1916, Cecil B. DeMille) (16 points)
=. Shoulder Arms (1918, Charles Chaplin) (16 points)
19. Young Romance (1915, George Melford) (15 points)
20. Fantômas I: À l'ombre de la guillotine (Fantômas: In the Shadow of the Guillotine) (1913, Louis Feuillade) (15 points)

The Rest

[Show spoiler]21. Harakari (1919, Fritz Lang) (14 points)
22. Fantômas II: Juve contre Fantômas (Juve vs. Fantômas) (1913, Louis Feuillade) (14 points)
23. The Italian (1915, Reginald Barker) (13 points)
24. Der Student von Prag (The Student of Prague) (1913, Hanns Heinz Ewers and Stellan Rye) (13 points)
25. True Heart Susie (1919, D. W. Griffith) (12 points)
26. Hearts of the World (1918, D. W.Griffith) (12 points)
27. The Musketeers of Pig Alley (1912, D. W. Griffith) (12 points)
28. A Romany Orgy (1911, Louis Feuillade) (12 points)
29. The Oyster Princess (1919, Ernst Lubitsch) (11 points)
30. The Conquest of the Pole (1912, Georges Méliès) (11 points)
31. Gertie the DInosaur (1914, Winsor McCay) (10 points)
32. The Children of Eve (1915, John Collins) (10 points)
=. Tillie's Punctured Romance (1914, Mack Sennett)
34. The Avenging Conscience (1914, D. W. Griffith) (10 points)
35. Les aventures de baron de Munchhausen (Baron Munchausen's Dream) (1911, Georges Méliès) (10 points)
36. Schuhpalast Pinkus (Shoe Palace Pinkus) (1916, Ernst Lubitsch) (10 points)
37. The Spiders (1919, Fritz Lang) (9 points)
38. Atlantis (1913, August Bloom) (9 points)
39. L'Inferno (Dante's Inferno) (1911, Giuseppe de Liguoro) (8 points)
40. The Magic Cloak of Oz (1914, J. Farrell MacDonald) (8 points)
41. [I[I Don't Want to Be a Man[/I] (1918, Ernst Lubitsch) (7 points)
=. Poor Little Rich Girl (1917, Maurice Tourneur) (7 points)
43. Assunta Spina (Gustavo Serena) (7 points)
44. His Majesty, the Scarecrow of Oz (1914, J. Farrell MacDonald) (7 points)
45. Carmen (1915, Cecil B. DeMille) (6 points)
46. The Wonderful Wizard of Oz (1910, Otis Turner) (6 points)
47. The Cheat (1915, Cecil B. DeMille) (5 points)
48. Joan the Woman (1916, Cecil B. DeMille) (5 points)
49. 20000 Leagues Under the Sea (1916, Stuart Paton) (5 points)
50. Manhattan Madness (1916, Allan Dwan) (4 points)
51. The Cossack Whip (1916, John Collins) (3 points)
=. Stella Maris (1918, Marshall Neilan) (3 points)
53. The Bargain (1914, Reginald Barker) (2 points)


Notes About Individual Submitters

[Show spoiler]Archdamian - I removed The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari from your list, as it was from 1920, and changed the point values of the remaining films from the original system (20, 19, 18, 17) to my new system (12, 11, 10, 9).

The Great Owl - I assumed an even distribution of ten points each, and removed The Golem from your list, as we established you were thinking of the 1920 version

W0mb4t - You said ranked, so I applied point values according to the new system, from 15 down to 6


The Math

[Show spoiler]First Tiebreak: Number of Lists appeared on (this is why, say, Bucking Broadway is above Victory)
Second Tiebreak: Highest Single Number of Points From One Rating (this is why, say, Male and Female is above Re Lear, as 15 > 13)
Third Tiebreak: Longest List Appeared on (this is why, say, Young Romance is above Fantômas - À l'ombre de la guillotine). Note that the number in brackets below is the length of the longest list the film appeared on.

Intolerance (20): 16 + 12 + 10 + 20 + 12 = 70
The Birth of a Nation (20): 14 + 11 + 10 + 10 + 20 = 65
Regeneration (20): 4 + 14 + 17 = 35
The Immigrant (20): 10 + 19 = 29
Cabiria (20): 10 + 18 = 28
Broken Blossoms (20): 6 + 10 + 11 = 25
Male and Female (20): 9 + 15 = 24
Re Lear (13): 11 + 13 = 24
Les Vampires (20): 10 + 13 = 23
J'Accuse (20): 15 + 5 = 20
A Girl's Folly (20): 19
Bucking Broadway (20): 10 + 8 = 18
Victory (20): 18
Frankenstein (13): 8 + 9 = 17
The Mother and the Law (20): 17
The Squaw Man (20): 10 + 6 = 16
The Golden Chance (20): 16
Shoulder Arms (20): 16
Young Romance (20): 15
Fantômas - À l'ombre de la guillotine (10): 15
Harakari (20): 14
Juve contre Fantômas (10): 14
The Italian (20): 13
Der Student von Prag (13): 13
True Heart Susie (20): 10 + 2 = 12
Hearts of the World (20): 12
The Musketeers of Pig Alley (13): 12
The Romany Orgy (10): 12
The Oyster Princess (20): 11
The Conquest of the Pole (10): 11
Gertie the Dinosaur (20): 9 + 1 = 10
The Children of Eve (20): 10
Tillie's Punctured Romance (20): 10
The Avenging Conscience (13): 10
Les Hallucinations du Baron de Münchausen (10): 10
Pinkus's Shoe Palace (3): 10
The Spiders (20): 9
Atlantis (13): 9
Dante's Inferno (20): 8
The Magic Cloak of Oz (10): 8
I Don't Want to Be a Man (20): 7
Poor Little Rich Girl (20): 7
Assunta Spina (13): 7
His Majesty, The Scarecrow of Oz (10): 7
Carmen (20): 6
The Wonderful Wizard of Oz (10): 6
The Cheat (20): 1 + 4 = 5
Joan the Woman (20): 5
20000 Leagues Under the Sea (13): 5
Manhattan Madness (20): 4
The Cossack Whip (20): 3
Stella Maris (20): 3
The Bargain (20): 2


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Rules

1. All lists of any length (1 movie to 20 movies) will be allowed in the poll.

2. You can elect to give your #1 choice 20 points, #2 19 points, etc., or give 10 points to each film on the list. If there is no indication, the latter will be assumed.

2a. If your list has less than 20 entries, but you elect for the ranked ratings, they will be as such:

2ai. If your list has one entry, it will get 10 points.
2aii. If your list has two entries, #1 gets 11 points and #2 gets 10 points.
2aiii. If your list has three entries, #1 gets 11 points and #2 gets 10 points and #3 gets 9 points.
2aiv. If your list has four entries, #1 gets 12 points and #2 gets 11 points and #3 gets 10 points and #4 gets 9 points.
etc.

3. The poll is now closed, as of December 22, 2013.

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My List

1. Intolerance (1916, D. W. Griffith) (16 points)
2. J'Accuse (1919, Abel Gance) (15 points)
3. The Birth of a Nation (1915, D. W. Griffith) (14 points)
4. Der Student von Prag (1913, Hanns Heinz Ewers and Stellan Rye) (13 points)
5. The Musketeers of Pig Alley (1912, D. W. Griffith) (12 points)
6. Re Lear (1910, Gerolamo Lo Savio) (11 points)
7. The Avenging Conscience (1914, D. W. Griffith) (10 points)
8. Atlantis (1913, August Bloom) (9 points)
8. Frankenstein (1919, J. Searle Dawley) (8 points)
10. Assunta Spina (Gustavo Serena) (7 points)
11. Broken Blossoms (1919, D. W. Griffith) (6 points)
12. 20000 Leagues Under the Sea (1916, Stuart Paton) (5 points)
13. Regeneration (1915, Raoul Walsh) (4 points)

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1. Intolerance (20)
2. The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (19)
3. The Birth of a Nation (18)
4. The Squaw Man (17)
5. Gertie the Dinosaur (16)

I've seen quite a few very short films, but nothing that I would want to put on the list right now.
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I'm hurting here...

1. The Birth of a Nation
2. Bucking Broadway
3. Pinkus's Shoe Palace
4. The Golem

I'm sure that I've seen more, but these are the only ones that come to mind off the top of my head.

EDIT: I've seen a bunch of short films, actually. I'll post them as I think of them.

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Didn't the original poll start with the 1910s?
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something tells me this one isn't gonna get a lot of responses.......


and I consider myself a big movie fan... but I can't think of anything I've even seen...
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Didn't the original poll start with the 1910s?
I think it started with the 20s.
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something tells me this one isn't gonna get a lot of responses.......


and I consider myself a big movie fan... but I can't think of anything I've even seen...
same here.
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Well, I could probably list 20 from 1915 alone (and Cecil B. DeMille alone made 12 features that year!), so it will take me awhile to narrow down the whole decade to 20 films. The 1910s were a fascinating period in which filmmaking styles, technology, story material, and marketing advanced at a logarithmic pace, with the major studios (Paramount, Universal, Fox, United Artists, plus precursors of Columbia and Warners) established from 1912 through 1919 and the classic studio production system and fan magazine support system firmly in place by the mid to late teens.

It looks so far as if people will really need to double-check their dates far more closely before posting if they even plan to include the dates. I do not know of a film of THE SQUAW MAN from 1917. DeMille's THE SQUAW MAN was filmed in 1913 and released in 1914, although he did do a remake in 1918 that is currently lost except for one reel, and a talkie remake in 1931.

And what film of FRANKENSTEIN was made in 1917? There was an Edison one-reel version made in 1910. Is that what you were thinking of? THE STUDENT OF PRAGUE was made in 1913, not 1918, although it was remade in 1926. BROKEN BLOSSOMS was 1919, not '16, and Universal's 20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA was 1916, not '15. THE CABINET OF DR. CALIGARI was filmed in 1919 but finished and released in 1920. Of course the notorious THE BIRTH OF A NATION was released in 1915 with an L.A. premiere in February and a NY premiere in March followed by a national roadshow tour with its own traveling orchestra, even if the common surviving print dates from a 1921 re-edited reissue and later reissues. INTOLERANCE was a 1916 original release that actually began filming in 1914, was constantly re-edited after it was released, and had re-edited reissues of two of its four segments as separate features in 1919. The version of THE GOLEM that survives is from 1920, and only fragments from the 1915 version are known to exist. For those who can't recall dates off the top of their heads (or DVD cases), Wikipedia, IMDB, and the AFI catalog can sometimes (though not always) be reasonably reliable sources.

There may not be many silent films yet on Blu-ray (roughly 50 at last count, including THE BIRTH OF A NATION and INTOLERANCE), and barely a dozen from the teens including bonuses on other discs, but there are literally hundreds available on DVD from the likes of Kino (lots of great early Lubitsch!), Criterion, Flicker Alley, Image, Grapevine, Unknown Video, and more, including numerous films from the teens. More than a few can even be found on YouTube for those who can tolerate the barely-watchable video transfers and often their lack of music scores or poorly chosen generic music to replace the professional score that was on the DVD the uploader has bootlegged.
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Well, I could probably list 20 from 1915 alone (and Cecil B. DeMille alone made 12 features that year!), so it will take me awhile to narrow down the whole decade to 20 films. The 1910s were a fascinating period in which filmmaking styles, technology, story material, and marketing advanced at a logarithmic pace, with the major studios (Paramount, Universal, Fox, United Artists, plus precursors of Columbia and Warners) established from 1912 through 1919 and the classic studio production system and fan magazine support system firmly in place by the mid to late teens.

It looks so far as if people will really need to double-check their dates far more closely before posting if they even plan to include the dates. I do not know of a film of THE SQUAW MAN from 1917. DeMille's THE SQUAW MAN was filmed in 1913 and released in 1914, although he did do a remake in 1918 that is currently lost except for one reel, and a talkie remake in 1931.

And what film of FRANKENSTEIN was made in 1917? There was an Edison one-reel version made in 1910. Is that what you were thinking of? THE STUDENT OF PRAGUE was made in 1913, not 1918, although it was remade in 1926. BROKEN BLOSSOMS was 1919, not '16, and Universal's 20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA was 1916, not '15. THE CABINET OF DR. CALIGARI was filmed in 1919 but finished and released in 1920. Of course the notorious THE BIRTH OF A NATION was released in 1915 with an L.A. premiere in February and a NY premiere in March followed by a national roadshow tour with its own traveling orchestra, even if the common surviving print dates from a 1921 re-edited reissue and later reissues. INTOLERANCE was a 1916 original release that actually began filming in 1914, was constantly re-edited after it was released, and had re-edited reissues of two of its four segments as separate features in 1919. The version of THE GOLEM that survives is from 1920, and only fragments from the 1915 version are known to exist. For those who can't recall dates off the top of their heads (or DVD cases), Wikipedia, IMDB, and the AFI catalog can sometimes (though not always) be reasonably reliable sources.

There may not be many silent films yet on Blu-ray (roughly 50 at last count, including THE BIRTH OF A NATION and INTOLERANCE), and barely a dozen from the teens including bonuses on other discs, but there are literally hundreds available on DVD from the likes of Kino (lots of great early Lubitsch!), Criterion, Flicker Alley, Image, Grapevine, Unknown Video, and more, including numerous films from the teens. More than a few can even be found on YouTube for those who can tolerate the barely-watchable video transfers and often their lack of music scores or poorly chosen generic music to replace the professional score that was on the DVD the uploader has bootlegged.
WOW!!

You are clearly the expert on films of this era!!

Congratulations!

I think there is a chance that, if you do make a list, it may well be the only 20-entry list made, and thus the only one that counts!!

Well, we'll see, I think I may have seen more than I originally listed, but I have to check some dates.

Anyways, I do hope you can put something together.
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The version of THE GOLEM that survives is from 1920, and only fragments from the 1915 version are known to exist. For those who can't recall dates off the top of their heads (or DVD cases), Wikipedia, IMDB, and the AFI catalog can sometimes (though not always) be reasonably reliable sources.
I stand correct. I had 1915 on the brain when I included The Golem on my list.

I'd like to see more of the early Lubitsch films, since I had fun watching Pinkus's Shoe Palace.
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I could only come up with seven. I'd like to assign 10 points to each.

1. Broken Blossoms
2. True Heart Susie
3. The Immigrant
4. Intolerance
5. Les Vampires
6. Cabiria
7. The Birth of a Nation
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I know nothing of this decade, sorry.
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I know nothing of this decade, sorry.
+1

I love the 1920s but the 1910s I am a complete novice on.
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Well, I could probably list 20 from 1915 alone (and Cecil B. DeMille alone made 12 features that year!), so it will take me awhile to narrow down the whole decade to 20 films. The 1910s were a fascinating period in which filmmaking styles, technology, story material, and marketing advanced at a logarithmic pace, with the major studios (Paramount, Universal, Fox, United Artists, plus precursors of Columbia and Warners) established from 1912 through 1919 and the classic studio production system and fan magazine support system firmly in place by the mid to late teens.

It looks so far as if people will really need to double-check their dates far more closely before posting if they even plan to include the dates. I do not know of a film of THE SQUAW MAN from 1917. DeMille's THE SQUAW MAN was filmed in 1913 and released in 1914, although he did do a remake in 1918 that is currently lost except for one reel, and a talkie remake in 1931.

And what film of FRANKENSTEIN was made in 1917? There was an Edison one-reel version made in 1910. Is that what you were thinking of? THE STUDENT OF PRAGUE was made in 1913, not 1918, although it was remade in 1926. BROKEN BLOSSOMS was 1919, not '16, and Universal's 20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA was 1916, not '15. THE CABINET OF DR. CALIGARI was filmed in 1919 but finished and released in 1920. Of course the notorious THE BIRTH OF A NATION was released in 1915 with an L.A. premiere in February and a NY premiere in March followed by a national roadshow tour with its own traveling orchestra, even if the common surviving print dates from a 1921 re-edited reissue and later reissues. INTOLERANCE was a 1916 original release that actually began filming in 1914, was constantly re-edited after it was released, and had re-edited reissues of two of its four segments as separate features in 1919. The version of THE GOLEM that survives is from 1920, and only fragments from the 1915 version are known to exist. For those who can't recall dates off the top of their heads (or DVD cases), Wikipedia, IMDB, and the AFI catalog can sometimes (though not always) be reasonably reliable sources.

There may not be many silent films yet on Blu-ray (roughly 50 at last count, including THE BIRTH OF A NATION and INTOLERANCE), and barely a dozen from the teens including bonuses on other discs, but there are literally hundreds available on DVD from the likes of Kino (lots of great early Lubitsch!), Criterion, Flicker Alley, Image, Grapevine, Unknown Video, and more, including numerous films from the teens. More than a few can even be found on YouTube for those who can tolerate the barely-watchable video transfers and often their lack of music scores or poorly chosen generic music to replace the professional score that was on the DVD the uploader has bootlegged.
Those are not dates behind the films but point rankings and I feel a little offended by your remark that we should do a little research before posting our lists.

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Well, I could probably list 20 from 1915 alone (and Cecil B. DeMille alone made 12 features that year!), so it will take me awhile to narrow down the whole decade to 20 films. The 1910s were a fascinating period in which filmmaking styles, technology, story material, and marketing advanced at a logarithmic pace, with the major studios (Paramount, Universal, Fox, United Artists, plus precursors of Columbia and Warners) established from 1912 through 1919 and the classic studio production system and fan magazine support system firmly in place by the mid to late teens.

It looks so far as if people will really need to double-check their dates far more closely before posting if they even plan to include the dates. I do not know of a film of THE SQUAW MAN from 1917. DeMille's THE SQUAW MAN was filmed in 1913 and released in 1914, although he did do a remake in 1918 that is currently lost except for one reel, and a talkie remake in 1931.

And what film of FRANKENSTEIN was made in 1917? There was an Edison one-reel version made in 1910. Is that what you were thinking of? THE STUDENT OF PRAGUE was made in 1913, not 1918, although it was remade in 1926. BROKEN BLOSSOMS was 1919, not '16, and Universal's 20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA was 1916, not '15. THE CABINET OF DR. CALIGARI was filmed in 1919 but finished and released in 1920. Of course the notorious THE BIRTH OF A NATION was released in 1915 with an L.A. premiere in February and a NY premiere in March followed by a national roadshow tour with its own traveling orchestra, even if the common surviving print dates from a 1921 re-edited reissue and later reissues. INTOLERANCE was a 1916 original release that actually began filming in 1914, was constantly re-edited after it was released, and had re-edited reissues of two of its four segments as separate features in 1919. The version of THE GOLEM that survives is from 1920, and only fragments from the 1915 version are known to exist. For those who can't recall dates off the top of their heads (or DVD cases), Wikipedia, IMDB, and the AFI catalog can sometimes (though not always) be reasonably reliable sources.

There may not be many silent films yet on Blu-ray (roughly 50 at last count, including THE BIRTH OF A NATION and INTOLERANCE), and barely a dozen from the teens including bonuses on other discs, but there are literally hundreds available on DVD from the likes of Kino (lots of great early Lubitsch!), Criterion, Flicker Alley, Image, Grapevine, Unknown Video, and more, including numerous films from the teens. More than a few can even be found on YouTube for those who can tolerate the barely-watchable video transfers and often their lack of music scores or poorly chosen generic music to replace the professional score that was on the DVD the uploader has bootlegged.
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I changed the rules somewhat. Now everyone's list will be counted. Archedamian, I will change the scores appropriately (they will go from 12 points to 8 points now, under the new system) when I tally the scores.
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Those are not dates behind the films but point rankings and I feel a little offended by your remark that we should do a little research before posting our lists.
If I'd looked closer and longer I might have figured that out. Sorry, certainly didn't mean to offend anybody, but whenever I see numbers alone in parentheses next to a movie title I automatically associate it with the release dates, and with all being movies from the teens and listed point rankings also all in the teens (some people do consider 1920 the last year of the teens and 1911 the first year) since there were never enough titles in any lists to drop the numbers down to 9, 8, 7, etc. or any abbreviation like "pts" next to the numbers, it immediately appeared as if they were supposed to represent the dates.


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Not really. There is nothing stopping anybody else from watching tons of films from the teens. You can, too! Right now it's far easier to find copies of silent films to watch than it has been since the 1910s and 1920s when was all you could see in theatres. My 1910s top 20 list is currently down to a little under 70, and while several of those I've seen only at film festivals, the vast majority are available on DVD and several are on Blu-ray. Some even have bonus features like alternate music scores, commentary tracks, and documentaries about the production or people involved. Of course they won't be carried by 99% of local stores, so people have to make the effort to order them on line (just click "add to cart" and they show up a week later at your doorstep). Quite a few famous and obscure silents are even on line for free (although on-line viewing of anything should always be a last resort).

Too few people bother to make the effort to find silent films from the 1920s, much less from the teens, even supposed film buffs. Movies from the teens are too often underrated or dismissed entirely as a group without bothering to see any of them or more than only a few clips of poor-quality copies of bad-condition prints of non-representative films taken out of context. The 1910s movies, especially those earlier than 1915, do often tend to have a style that takes more getting used to and a greater number of unfamiliar conventions (both cinematic and social/cultural), even for fans of 1920s classic silents. However, once one is accustomed to the style, the wide variety of approaches and subject material as filmmakers and studios were getting the feel for the new industry throughout the 1910s can often be much more rewarding than the slicker, more polished but more conventional films of the 1920s and later, and often there are many unknown gems waiting to be discovered. More than a few actually seem pretty much like modern films, just without recorded dialogue or CGI special effects. (It's comparable in many ways to contrasting today's studio-financed blockbusters with low-budget and no-budget independent films.)

I enjoy films from all decades, but the more I've been able to see from the teens, the more it has become perhaps my favorite decade in recent years.
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And yes, this will be followed by 1900s, 1890s and 1880s.
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Okay, after much agonizing, I finally came up with an ordered top 20 list from the 1910s, including a bunch of the bumped-off titles in a list of another 30 honorable mentions in no particular order to make a top 50. I stuck with feature-length films only, and debated whether making it a top 75 or top 100, as there are so many all-but-unknown but worthy films crying to be seen. (And LES VAMPIRES didn't even make the top 75 cut, as well as some interesting Mary Pickford, Douglas Fairbanks, D. W. Griffith, and William S. Hart films!) It was harder for me to do a 1910s or 1920s list of 20 than a 1980s or 1990s list or 2000s list.

I also included director names, to provide easier reference for anyone who might want to track down any of these titles. Almost all are on DVD and several are on Blu-ray (Blu-ray releases noted with --BD-- after each listing, although a couple are actually bonus films on other discs)

TOP 50 FEATURES FROM THE 1910s
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Intolerance (1916) d: D.W.Griffith - 20 pts --BD--
A Girl's Folly (1917) d: Maurice Tourneur - 19 pts
Victory (1919) d: Maurice Tourneur - 18 pts
The Mother and the Law (1919) d: D.W.Griffith - 17 pts --BD--
The Golden Chance (1916) d: Cecil B. DeMille - 16 pts
Young Romance (1915) d: George Melford - 15 pts
Regeneration (1915) d: Raoul Walsh - 14 pts
The Italian (1915) d: Reginald Barker - 13 pts
Hearts of the World (1918) d: D.W.Griffith - 12 pts
The Oyster Princess (1919) d: Ernst Lubitsch - 11 pts

The Children of Eve (1915) d: John Collins - 10 pts --BD--
Male and Female (1919) d: Cecil B. DeMille - 9 pts
Bucking Broadway (1917) d: John Ford - 8 pts --BD--
Poor Little Rich Girl (1917) d: Maurice Tourneur - 7 pts --BD--
Carmen (1915) d: Cecil B. DeMille - 6 pts
J'Accuse (1919) d: Abel Gance - 5 pts
Manhattan Madness (1916) d: Allan Dwan - 4 pts
The Cossack Whip (1916) d: John Collins - 3 pts
The Bargain (1914) d: Reginald Barker - 2 pts
The Cheat (1915) d: Cecil B. DeMille - 1 pt



HONORABLE MENTIONS:

A Tale of Two Cities (1917) d: Frank Lloyd
A Pair of Silk Stockings (1918) d: Walter Edwards
The Delicious Little Devil (1919) d: Robert Z. Leonard
Broken Blossoms (1919) d: D.W.Griffith
The Birth of a Nation (1915) d: D. W. Griffith --BD--
The Wishing Ring (1914) d: Maurice Tourneur
A Fool There Was (1915) d: Frank Powell
The Wicked Darling (1919) d: Tod Browning
The Spoilers (1914) d: Colin Campbell, Alfred E. Green
Ingeborg Holm (1913) d: Victor Sjostrom

Hoodoo Ann (1916) d: Lloyd Ingraham
The Hater of Men (1917) d: Charles Miller
The Coward (1915) d: Reginald Barker, Thomas H. Ince
A Modern Musketeer (1917) d: Allan Dwan
Joan the Woman (1916) d: Cecil B. DeMille
The Ocean Waif (1916) d: Alice Guy Blache
M'Liss (1918) d: Marshall Neilan
The Hoodlum (1919) d: Sidney Franklin --BD--
Hell's Hinges (1916) d: Charles Swickard
The Great White Trail (1917) d: Leopold & Theodore Wharton

Up the Road with Sallie (1918) d: William Desmond Taylor
Kindling (1915) d: Cecil B. DeMille
Heart o' the Hills (1919) d: Joseph De Grasse, Sidney Franklin
The False Faces (1919) d: Irvin Willat
Young Mother Hubbard (1917) d: Arthur Berthelet
The Secret Game (1917) d: William C. DeMille
The Return of Draw Egan (1916) d: William S. Hart
On the Night Stage (1915) d: Reginald Barker
The Social Secretary (1916) d: John Emerson
The Narrow Trail (1917) d: William S. Hart
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