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Old 07-10-2011, 06:45 PM   #1
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Question Just because it's filmed in HD, doesn't mean it will look good, right?

I had a simple question... If something's filmed in HD, it doesn't mean it will look great on blu-ray correct? It depends on how they use the HD source material they have and how they port it onto a blu-ray disc? Anyone want to fill me in?

Want to buy this imported Japanese concert and everyone is saying "Oh, it was filmed in HD so it will look amazing"

but, I don't want to spend 80+ dollars on a mediocre blu... Anyways, just because it's filmed in HD doesn't mean it will look great, correct?
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Old 07-10-2011, 07:07 PM   #2
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Most of the time, a movie that's filmed in HD will look spectacular in blu-ray. But sometimes, studios will make mistakes. In cable television or satellite, an HD channel might not look as good.
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I had a simple question... If something's filmed in HD, it doesn't mean it will look great on blu-ray correct? It depends on how they use the HD source material they have and how they port it onto a blu-ray disc? Anyone want to fill me in?

Want to buy this imported Japanese concert and everyone is saying "Oh, it was filmed in HD so it will look amazing"

but, I don't want to spend 80+ dollars on a mediocre blu... Anyways, just because it's filmed in HD doesn't mean it will look great, correct?
Hey, Blu fan!

A lot of goings-on in your neck of the woods lately, huh, what with the Casey Anthony trial and such? How far are you from the Orlando courthouse?

As for your question, I also assumed every single Blu-ray film (not sure about concerts as I don't really buy 'em) would look awesome no matter what the age, condition of film stock or subject matter was because, after all, this is high definition 1080p...what I have found is that you never know what you're getting when you play that disc (unless it's a given, like a flawless Pixar animated film or something). There may be tons of grain with a mediocre picture quality or it may look pristine and nearly three dimensional; bottom line is, just because it's "high def" or "shot in high def" doesn't mean it's going to look flawless -- there are so many variables like director photography/style preferences, encode quality, mastering quality control...
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Old 07-10-2011, 07:14 PM   #4
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Most of the time, a movie that's filmed in HD will look spectacular in blu-ray. But sometimes, studios will make mistakes. In cable television or satellite, an HD channel might not look as good.
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Old 07-10-2011, 08:06 PM   #5
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I had a simple question... If something's filmed in HD, it doesn't mean it will look great on blu-ray correct?
It's correct. But on the other hand if something is filmed in HD, chances are better it looks great on blu-ray. So, as with everything else when you don't know something in advance, it's based on some probabilities and stats. And in case of something filmed in HD, we can say the probability of getting great blu-ray is higher but it is still not a gurantee.
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Like many things in life, it all starts with the source. Bad source will almost always lead to a sub-par transfer. A pristine source, either by way of recent HD cameras OR something older that went through a meticulous(which means expensive) restoration, will lead to a pristine transfer.
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By "filmed in 'HD'" do you mean they used an non-film based camera (such as a digital camera)? And if so, is it really 'filmed'?
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By "filmed in 'HD'" do you mean they used an non-film based camera (such as a digital camera)? And if so, is it really 'filmed'?
Perhaps shot in HD. Although the basic definition of film is: reproduced in a motion picture. Even if the device is configured differently, it's still capturing images.
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Perhaps shot in HD. Although the basic definition of film is: reproduced in a motion picture. Even if the device is configured differently, it's still capturing images.
Yes, but where a motion picture is defined as recorded onto a chemical film stock. There is a big difference between recording images electronically (video) and recording images chemically (film). The general accepted usage of the term "motion picture" is most certainly not any picture that moves. The definition of motion picture is a "film", although that will change over time as film prints disappear in favor of digital projection.

But also remember that when you see a modern film in a theatre, even if it's projected on film (fast disappearing), it probably went through a digital intermediate stage. Which means for at least one stage, it left the chemical stage and entered the electronic stage which changes the look and feel of the image regardless of the final delivery medium.

Also, another poster referred to "grain". If a performance is captured on HD video and released directly to BD, it is highly unlikely that it was ever transferred to film in-between. And if that's the case, there is no grain. There might be noise, but there will be no grain. Grain only exists on film.

In a concert situation, if the concert was not specifically lit for video recording, then chances are they have to "turn up" the ISO to record a given proper exposure. The higher the ISO, the more the noise.
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Hi, I would be eager to learn are the BR movies encoded in 23 or 48 fps? Also how to know what a BR movie is 23 or 48 frames per second? Actually, what fps ratio such titles as BR Star Wars, Avatar (2D and 3D), Prometheus (2D and 3D) display?

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Hi, I would be eager to learn are the BR movies encoded in 23 or 48 fps? Also how to know what a BR movie is 23 or 48 frames per second? Actually, what fps ratio such titles as BR Star Wars, Avatar (2D and 3D), Prometheus (2D and 3D) display?

Thanks

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Most 2D blu-ray's are ~24fps (think its something like 23.98), some odd ones are 60fps, they are usually interlaced and TV not movies but this isn't always the case and most TV blu-rays are in 1080p24.

3D movies are 48fps or 24 per eye, that's not the same as The Hobbit which is 48 per eye. I can't remember how they are on the disc, if that is 48 fps or 24 either side by side or top and bottom. It should be the same bandwidth requirement either way.
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Old 03-21-2014, 07:34 PM   #12
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Curious Gamer, thanks for such prompt reply. But the point is that my friend send me an .iso file of a Blu-Ray 2D movie that I played on my computer with Macgo Blu-Ray player and its "Media information" option detected it as being of ~48 fps How to explain this?

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