Enter The Dragon - Blu-ray Forum

CrYoG · 04-05-2017, 07:44 PM

Thinking about getting this movie, but not sure which would be best in terms of the cleanliness of the film, which release has the better sound mix & I've read the 40th Anniversary release is missing "Bruce Lee: A Warrior's Journey", which many have said is great. So which would be the better buy:
2007
2013

TheLaughingMann · 04-05-2017, 08:17 PM

2007 has VC-1 while 2013 has MPEG-4 AVC (which I have heard does hit really high in terms of allowing great A/V quality for the type of file it is). And my guess is they nixed the extra above to accommodate the size of the newer release.

Still, definitely worth asking an opinion on this to see if the extras balance the quality of the film between both versions.

RalphoR · 04-05-2017, 08:29 PM

BL: A Warriors Journey is available to watch on YouTube so I'd go for the better video quality bd.

esteban² · 04-05-2017, 09:26 PM

Tamburello Rouge · 04-06-2017, 12:14 AM

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...er+the+dragon+

CrYoG · 04-06-2017, 05:49 AM

To be honest here, I don't understand the difference between VC-1 & MPEG-4.

I was able to find & download the "Bruce Lee: A Warriors Journey" extra. Thanks for the heads-up RalphoR.

I did go through many of the posts that you linked to Tamburello Rouge. I just got a little more confused.
What's the difference between 'a new transfer' & 'a remaster'? Also, some were talking about 'jaggies', 'aliasing' & 'lossless audio'.

qb2333 · 04-06-2017, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamburello Rouge

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...er+the+dragon+

I would go with this opinion. It's never going to look impeccable like new movies

CrYoG · 04-07-2017, 05:17 AM

So who has the 40th Anniversary Blu-Ray & what do you think about it?

Sorry everyone, I don't work & w/the price being in the $30.00 range, I want to make sure it's worth it.

Someone in the other post had mentioned 1973 & 1998 cuts. What's the difference(s) & which is the 40th Anniversary Blu-Ray?

Ray Jackson · 04-07-2017, 05:41 AM

Oh thank god.

...I saw the thread title and assumed this was about a remake.

[Show spoiler]

SuperFlyHighGuy · 04-07-2017, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

Oh thank god.

...I saw the thread title and assumed this was about a remake.

[Show spoiler]

Thanks for the idea - Warner Bros.

P.S. - We already own the property, so you get nothing for the idea. Thanks again - Warner Bros.

Tamburello Rouge · 04-07-2017, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrYoG

So who has the 40th Anniversary Blu-Ray & what do you think about it?

Sorry everyone, I don't work & w/the price being in the $30.00 range, I want to make sure it's worth it.

Someone in the other post had mentioned 1973 & 1998 cuts. What's the difference(s) & which is the 40th Anniversary Blu-Ray?

Most of these answers are in the thread I already linked.

BladeRunner2007 · 04-07-2017, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

Oh thank god.

...I saw the thread title and assumed this was about a remake.

[Show spoiler]

But they already did a remake back in 1995. It was called Mortal Kombat.

UFAlien · 04-07-2017, 11:30 PM

The problem with the 2007 disc isn't that it's encoded in VC-1; there are plenty of very good looking VC-1 Blu-rays. The 2007 Enter the Dragon transfer has very heavy, obvious aliasing (jagged, "stair-stepped" edges that look almost like pixellation), which I believe I read somewhere can likely be attributed to a poor conversion of an outdated 1080i master. The 2013 version isn't perfect (some of the colors are oversaturated) but it doesn't have the distracting jaggies and is much more natural and filmic-looking overall.

You can compare screenshots from the two versions here:
https://www.caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d...68&i=0&l=1&a=0

Also note that the 2007 disc only has lossy Dolby Digital sound while the 2013 version has lossless DTS-HD MA. "Lossless" sound means that it theoretically sounds just as good as the original studio masters, as opposed to more heavily-compressed "lossy" formats.

CrYoG · 04-10-2017, 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamburello Rouge

Most of these answers are in the thread I already linked.

I did read most of the posts, but after going through 20+ pages of the over 40 pages, my eyes started to hurt & brain was getting very confused & mixing different posts together

But I've decided to save & get the 40th Anniversary set when I can.
Thanks for all the help everyone.

drush9999 · 04-10-2017, 11:39 AM

I bought the 40th Anniversary set used (very good condition) for 11 pounds
Wouldn't pay any more than that though

04-05-2017, 07:44 PM	#1
CrYoG Active Member Member since:Dec 2014	Enter The Dragon Thinking about getting this movie, but not sure which would be best in terms of the cleanliness of the film, which release has the better sound mix & I've read the 40th Anniversary release is missing "Bruce Lee: A Warrior's Journey", which many have said is great. So which would be the better buy: 2007 2013

04-05-2017, 09:26 PM	#4
esteban² Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Aug 2011 Location:Belgium Blu-ray collection:64 Trading Score:3	Enter the Dragon

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04-05-2017, 08:17 PM	#2
TheLaughingMann Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jan 2015 Location:Delaware 4K collection:32 Blu-ray collection:1961 DVD collection:172 Blu-ray reviews:17 Trading Score:25	2007 has VC-1 while 2013 has MPEG-4 AVC (which I have heard does hit really high in terms of allowing great A/V quality for the type of file it is). And my guess is they nixed the extra above to accommodate the size of the newer release. Still, definitely worth asking an opinion on this to see if the extras balance the quality of the film between both versions.

04-05-2017, 08:29 PM	#3
RalphoR Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Oct 2013 Location:The Forbidden Valley of NE Ohio Trading Score:13	BL: A Warriors Journey is available to watch on YouTube so I'd go for the better video quality bd.

04-06-2017, 12:14 AM	#5
Tamburello Rouge Active Member Member since:Jul 2014	https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...er+the+dragon+

04-06-2017, 05:49 AM	#6
CrYoG Active Member Member since:Dec 2014	To be honest here, I don't understand the difference between VC-1 & MPEG-4. I was able to find & download the "Bruce Lee: A Warriors Journey" extra. Thanks for the heads-up RalphoR. I did go through many of the posts that you linked to Tamburello Rouge. I just got a little more confused. What's the difference between 'a new transfer' & 'a remaster'? Also, some were talking about 'jaggies', 'aliasing' & 'lossless audio'.

04-07-2017, 05:17 AM	#8
CrYoG Active Member Member since:Dec 2014	So who has the 40th Anniversary Blu-Ray & what do you think about it? Sorry everyone, I don't work & w/the price being in the $30.00 range, I want to make sure it's worth it. Someone in the other post had mentioned 1973 & 1998 cuts. What's the difference(s) & which is the 40th Anniversary Blu-Ray?

04-07-2017, 05:41 AM	#9
Ray Jackson Blu-ray Duke Member since:Apr 2013 Location:The dark underbelly of Anytown, USA 4K collection:102 Blu-ray collection:455 DVD collection:9 Digital collection:74 Trading Score:183	Oh thank god. ...I saw the thread title and assumed this was about a remake. [Show spoiler]

04-07-2017, 11:30 PM	#13
UFAlien Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 4K collection:128 Blu-ray collection:475 Blu-ray reviews: 14 Trading Score:29	The problem with the 2007 disc isn't that it's encoded in VC-1; there are plenty of very good looking VC-1 Blu-rays. The 2007 Enter the Dragon transfer has very heavy, obvious aliasing (jagged, "stair-stepped" edges that look almost like pixellation), which I believe I read somewhere can likely be attributed to a poor conversion of an outdated 1080i master. The 2013 version isn't perfect (some of the colors are oversaturated) but it doesn't have the distracting jaggies and is much more natural and filmic-looking overall. You can compare screenshots from the two versions here: https://www.caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d...68&i=0&l=1&a=0 Also note that the 2007 disc only has lossy Dolby Digital sound while the 2013 version has lossless DTS-HD MA. "Lossless" sound means that it theoretically sounds just as good as the original studio masters, as opposed to more heavily-compressed "lossy" formats.

04-10-2017, 11:39 AM	#15
drush9999 Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Nov 2016 Location:Sutton Coldfield, England 4K collection:566 Blu-ray collection:6093 DVD collection:488 Trading Score:1	I bought the 40th Anniversary set used (very good condition) for 11 pounds Wouldn't pay any more than that though

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