Modesty Blaise Joseph Losey 1966 - Blu-ray Forum

Wireduck1 · 02-24-2015, 08:11 AM

Released April 22nd 2015. Amazon Japan.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/Modesty-Blai...=AN1VRQENFRJN5

John_Drake · 02-24-2015, 01:14 PM

Brilliant film--can't seem to get the theme song out of my head now.
Amazon states that the disc will have both English audio and subs.

easydreamer · 02-24-2015, 10:13 PM

Amazon JP says it is a Japan exclusive release, just like Emperor of the North. I'll definitely bite as I've been a huge fan of the film! Hope the price comes down before the release date, though (still no discount).

Wireduck1 · 02-25-2015, 03:41 AM

I placed my order 24 hrs ago, but I'm sure the price will drop before the release date.

More Terence Stamp on blu ray please.

McCrutchy · 02-25-2015, 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by easydreamer

Amazon JP says it is a Japan exclusive release, just like Emperor of the North. I'll definitely bite as I've been a huge fan of the film! Hope the price comes down before the release date, though (still no discount).

This isn't a Japanese exclusive. It's simply coming out in Japan on April 22nd. Other countries will follow, even if those countries do not include the US or the UK (where there are now cuts to horsefalls in this film).

Please be aware, too, that Fox Japan currently claims this will not have English lossless audio. Presently, they are listing an English: Dolby Digital 2.0 track, and a Japanese: DTS-HD MA Mono dubbed audio track:

http://video.foxjapan.com/search/detail.php?id=14658

Here is our database listing:

John_Drake · 02-25-2015, 12:58 PM

Temporary price drop to ¥4739.

easydreamer · 02-25-2015, 11:21 PM

Pre-ordered it & Emperor of the North with the price drop.
BTW, Harry & Tonto is in the same batch, and will be released on the same day.

easydreamer · 04-26-2015, 02:20 AM

Got the Blu-ray of it, and confirmed that this is region A locked, with no English menu (showing the Japanese menu even though the player was set to show the English menu). The only extra is the theatrical trailer, so Japanese menu may not be a deal breaker for many, but this really looks like the Japanese exclusive after all.

The opening credits are window-boxed, probably meaning that this is based on an old master. Still, the colors are good & grains look good, too. The sad part is that the English audio really is DD only, while the Japanese dub gets DTS-HD MA audio.

movielib · 06-25-2015, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by easydreamer

Got the Blu-ray of it, and confirmed that this is region A locked, with no English menu (showing the Japanese menu even though the player was set to show the English menu). The only extra is the theatrical trailer, so Japanese menu may not be a deal breaker for many, but this really looks like the Japanese exclusive after all.

The opening credits are window-boxed, probably meaning that this is based on an old master. Still, the colors are good & grains look good, too. The sad part is that the English audio really is DD only, while the Japanese dub gets DTS-HD MA audio.

I've had this in my cart for a very long time and I hadn't looked at the cart for a long time but now I'm thinking about buying something else from Amazon.jp and saving on shipping for multiple items but the price is still very high and having lossy audio for the original language and lossless for a dub is just nuts. I don't care what the audio is for any English dub of a nonEnglish film because I'd never listen to it. I just want the best lossless audio possible for the original language (don't we all)?

I just have to wait for another release of this.

John_Drake · 08-21-2015, 05:32 AM

Bumping this thread for a significant (and temporary) price drop for any who may not have picked up this disc.

Now at ￥3961--I believe this is the lowest it has been.

movielib · 08-21-2015, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John_Drake

Bumping this thread for a significant (and temporary) price drop for any who may not have picked up this disc.

Now at ￥3961--I believe this is the lowest it has been.

Yeah, I saw this a few days ago. It is the lowest ever, according to the Camel. Still too high.

movielib · 10-01-2015, 09:28 PM

New low price: ￥3091

Thinking about it.

Blondie · 01-12-2016, 06:18 AM

Even lower price now: ￥2171 (without tax) and ￥3571 including shipping, in my case. Decided to buy it this time.

movielib · 01-12-2016, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blondie

Even lower price now: ￥2171 (without tax) and ￥3571 including shipping, in my case. Decided to buy it this time.

Yeah, I got it on Dec 15 at that price. I ordered it with three other blus I had been waiting to order to lower the price of shipping per item.

rbaurer · 01-16-2016, 05:58 AM

How is the video quality overall and compared to the DVD?

Blondie · 01-20-2016, 06:11 PM

I took a few caps if anybody is interested. My general impression: good enough, looks like your average Kino Lorber release.

easydreamer · 08-29-2016, 10:01 AM

Bought the Kino Lorber Blu-ray, hoping it would get the new transfer, but it did not. The same master appears to be used for the Kino Lorber Blu-ray, with the window-boxed opening credits intact, but the compression is much worse than the Japanese Blu-ray (which I also own). The earlier scene with Modesty Blaise meeting up with 2 guys in the dark room looks horrendous on the Kino, with the black suits worn by the 2 guys are artifacting like crazy. On the other hand, the heavy grains on the suits are well resolved on the Japanese Blu-ray. The image also looks brighter on the Kino, and looks pale & not filmic at all. This is not the first time I see Kino brighting up the image (The Honey Pot is another example, compared to the excellent Signal One Blu-ray). Maybe it's their encoder doing it, but Modesty Blaise looks much worse than the Japanese Blu-ray for sure, at least to my eyes.

On the other hand, the lossless audio on the Kino sounds much better on the Kino than the lossy audio on the Japanese Blu-ray. I found this lossy audio to be quite bad, so it was a huge let down to know that the Kino image was much worse than the Japanese Blu-ray, meaning I have to stick with the Japanese Blu-ray, even with this lossy audio. Hope someone would release the definitive release, though.

Oh, forgot to mention that the Kino does not have any subtitles while the Japanese Blu-ray has both Japanese & English subtitles. That may be a plus for some.

easydreamer · 08-29-2016, 10:12 AM

Deleted. Sorry for the double post

TheOneWithThePrize · 08-29-2016, 08:06 PM

So neither is ideal, that is a shame. What are the chances someone like Arrow might pick this up for the UK?

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02-24-2015, 01:14 PM	#2
John_Drake Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jul 2013 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:3442 Trading Score:92	Brilliant film--can't seem to get the theme song out of my head now. Amazon states that the disc will have both English audio and subs.

02-24-2015, 10:13 PM	#3
easydreamer Expert Member Top contributor Member since:May 2013 4K collection:227 Blu-ray collection:3869 DVD collection:779 Digital collection:4 iTunes collection:6	Amazon JP says it is a Japan exclusive release, just like Emperor of the North. I'll definitely bite as I've been a huge fan of the film! Hope the price comes down before the release date, though (still no discount).

02-25-2015, 03:41 AM	#4
Wireduck1 Power Member Member since:Jul 2012 Location:In the darkest depths of Mordor Blu-ray reviews:1	I placed my order 24 hrs ago, but I'm sure the price will drop before the release date. More Terence Stamp on blu ray please.

02-25-2015, 12:58 PM	#6
John_Drake Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jul 2013 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:3442 Trading Score:92	Temporary price drop to ¥4739.

02-25-2015, 11:21 PM	#7
easydreamer Expert Member Top contributor Member since:May 2013 4K collection:227 Blu-ray collection:3869 DVD collection:779 Digital collection:4 iTunes collection:6	Pre-ordered it & Emperor of the North with the price drop. BTW, Harry & Tonto is in the same batch, and will be released on the same day.

04-26-2015, 02:20 AM	#8
easydreamer Expert Member Top contributor Member since:May 2013 4K collection:227 Blu-ray collection:3869 DVD collection:779 Digital collection:4 iTunes collection:6	Got the Blu-ray of it, and confirmed that this is region A locked, with no English menu (showing the Japanese menu even though the player was set to show the English menu). The only extra is the theatrical trailer, so Japanese menu may not be a deal breaker for many, but this really looks like the Japanese exclusive after all. The opening credits are window-boxed, probably meaning that this is based on an old master. Still, the colors are good & grains look good, too. The sad part is that the English audio really is DD only, while the Japanese dub gets DTS-HD MA audio.

08-21-2015, 05:32 AM	#10
John_Drake Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jul 2013 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:3442 Trading Score:92	Bumping this thread for a significant (and temporary) price drop for any who may not have picked up this disc. Now at ￥3961--I believe this is the lowest it has been.

10-01-2015, 09:28 PM	#12
movielib Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Madison, WI	New low price: ￥3091 Thinking about it.

01-12-2016, 06:18 AM	#13
Blondie Junior Member Top contributor Member since:Nov 2010 Location:Oslo, Norway 4K collection:298 Blu-ray collection:4776 DVD collection:443 Blu-ray reviews:1	Even lower price now: ￥2171 (without tax) and ￥3571 including shipping, in my case. Decided to buy it this time.

01-16-2016, 05:58 AM	#15
rbaurer Junior Member Member since:Sep 2014	How is the video quality overall and compared to the DVD?

01-20-2016, 06:11 PM	#16
Blondie Junior Member Top contributor Member since:Nov 2010 Location:Oslo, Norway 4K collection:298 Blu-ray collection:4776 DVD collection:443 Blu-ray reviews:1	I took a few caps if anybody is interested. My general impression: good enough, looks like your average Kino Lorber release.

08-29-2016, 10:01 AM	#17
easydreamer Expert Member Top contributor Member since:May 2013 4K collection:227 Blu-ray collection:3869 DVD collection:779 Digital collection:4 iTunes collection:6	Bought the Kino Lorber Blu-ray, hoping it would get the new transfer, but it did not. The same master appears to be used for the Kino Lorber Blu-ray, with the window-boxed opening credits intact, but the compression is much worse than the Japanese Blu-ray (which I also own). The earlier scene with Modesty Blaise meeting up with 2 guys in the dark room looks horrendous on the Kino, with the black suits worn by the 2 guys are artifacting like crazy. On the other hand, the heavy grains on the suits are well resolved on the Japanese Blu-ray. The image also looks brighter on the Kino, and looks pale & not filmic at all. This is not the first time I see Kino brighting up the image (The Honey Pot is another example, compared to the excellent Signal One Blu-ray). Maybe it's their encoder doing it, but Modesty Blaise looks much worse than the Japanese Blu-ray for sure, at least to my eyes. On the other hand, the lossless audio on the Kino sounds much better on the Kino than the lossy audio on the Japanese Blu-ray. I found this lossy audio to be quite bad, so it was a huge let down to know that the Kino image was much worse than the Japanese Blu-ray, meaning I have to stick with the Japanese Blu-ray, even with this lossy audio. Hope someone would release the definitive release, though. Oh, forgot to mention that the Kino does not have any subtitles while the Japanese Blu-ray has both Japanese & English subtitles. That may be a plus for some.

08-29-2016, 10:12 AM	#18
easydreamer Expert Member Top contributor Member since:May 2013 4K collection:227 Blu-ray collection:3869 DVD collection:779 Digital collection:4 iTunes collection:6	Deleted. Sorry for the double post

08-29-2016, 08:06 PM	#19
TheOneWithThePrize Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jun 2009 Location:En flugskit i kosmos 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Blu-ray reviews:1	So neither is ideal, that is a shame. What are the chances someone like Arrow might pick this up for the UK?

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