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okay so i am thinking about pulling the trigger on this amazing deal Lordoftherings found for me
http://www.accessories4less.com/inde...3A%22%22%3B%7D ive been doing some research on this and it seems that some people are complaining about the heat on this machine and even stated taht the 807 is a better model.. so what gives? ive heard great things about this from Lordoftherings and he has gotten me very excited about this receiver i do have a question though is this 2010 model or 2009? cuz i see a whole bunch of 2010s out now and i want something new that will last for a while because i will not be buying or upgrading for a long long time.. im very new to this receiver so as much info as possible is always best.. also i want to thank lordoftherings bigdaddy Hamp Callas and anyone else for helping through this whole process Last edited by nolfoc; 11-13-2010 at 11:11 PM. Reason: because i purchased the 807 and not the 876 |
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1. It ain't running hotter than any other receiver; you'd simply have to Disable the Control: Power Control & TV Control (CEC from hell!
![]() -> Follow these simple rules, and the 876 is cool as a cucumber! ![]() ![]() 2. The 807 is in NO WAY better than the 876, PERIOD! Whoever told you that is talking about few more features added and not important for many other people. 3. The Onkyo TX-SR876 is the 2008 receiver model (right behind the flagship model, the 906). * It has been replaced by the 3007, and then the 3008. ~ By the way, you can get the 3007 for $900 (brand new) from Vann's. (You'd have to pick him up yourself). 4. You'll have to do some research about all of it's features and see if they are in your taste, or not. 5. The 2010 models give you more Mickey Mouse features, and scrap the good ones from the 2008 models! FACT! (This is more about the 800 series and 1000 series, but the fact is that with the 3000 and 5000 series, Onkyo has introduced a 'power restraint' feature that engages when runing more than five channels simultaneously; which it didn't have in the past. That might not mean much in real life action, but it is still there nonetheless). 6. The 876 does not have an Ethernet port, and neither a USB port. And it does not have Audyssey DSX with the Front Width & Height channels. Neither Dolby Pro Logic IIz with the two Front Height channels. Neither Dolby Volume. * If you need any of those features, just look elsewhere. 7. But the 876 does have two HDMI outputs. And also Audyssey MultEQ XT, with Audyssey Dynamic EQ & Volume. Plus it is THX Ultra2 Plus certified, and also ISF Video certified, with the HQV Reon video processor, and separate video parameter adjustements for each individual source (video inputs). And it has five Texas Instruments Burr-Brown PCM-1796A DACs (good ones). And it has three TI Aureus 32-bit DSP chips (excellent audio processing power). I-Pod is supported, so is Serious radio ![]() ![]() And AM/FM radio as well HD radio. 8. Here's a review: @ http://www.avguide.com/review/tested...el-av-receiver 9. I still own my 876, and it is a top-notch receiver (high value and performance). ![]() 10. It weights exactly 53.1 lbs net! And the power consumption figure is rated at 9.6A. It has 65 high current amps! It will play all seven channel simultaneoulsy, into 8 Ohm loads and at 1 kHz with 1% Total harmonic Distortion (THD) at approximatively 150-160 watts! That is with seven channels driven! ![]() * If you have 4 Ohm speakers; no sweat, it will oblige. ![]() __________________________ I can continue if you wish so, or you can simply tell me that this is not the receiver you're looking for, and that $800 for it (brand new) is just too much for your budget. We are all looking for different set of features and other values in life; this is simply normal. And all what I can say or write about (I can easily write a book about this receiver) is only valuable for people that are truly interested in this magnificent and particular receiver. Bob Last edited by LordoftheRings; 10-27-2010 at 10:36 AM. Reason: link |
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![]() 2. Drill holes? Ya right, drill a HUGE HOLE! ![]() 3. You can get away with just few inches of space above, and some fans are very low profile (1/2 inch+ or so high). 4. No matter which receiver you end up choosing, they all need some clearance to a flow of circulating air (in particular at high volume levels). 5. If the 3007 is not there at Vann's anymore, it's probably sold out (it was a fantastic price at less than $900). * Just keep an eye open for that 3008. ![]() 6. The 1008 can be had for less than $800 at Amazon (brand new)! ![]() 7. The 876 is a 7.1-channel receiver. The 1007/1008/3007/3008/5007/5008 are all 9.2-channel receivers. 8. The 876 remains a top gun, even if it's a 2008's model. ![]() 9. I edited my above post by adding more to it... |
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Make life easy for you: get the Denon AVR-4311CI receiver for less than $1,500. IT HAS IT ALL!
![]() * Cost more though! Exactly 700 clams over the 876. ![]() But the 4311 does NOT have the power of the 876, that, certainly NOT! So, if you want a lot of power, you'd have to add some Emotiva amps with that 4311. But then, the 4311 has Audyssey MultEQ XT32 and Audyssey Sub EQ HT (for Multiple Subwoofer Calibration). Plus it is a 11.2-channel ready receiver, with a rare Preamp audio mode feature. ![]() And it is also Audyssey MultEQ Pro Software Ready (with version 3.4) --> Pro has up to 32 mic positions plus other advantages like storing some calibrated audio curves from your computer, and more... I'm off for now, talk you later. ![]() Bob |
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I already gave you the tricks on how to make it cool. 2. There are several fans out there that are quiet as a mouse (mine is home made and I cannot hear it at all!). 3. It seems now obvious to me that you are easy to believe others. Good for the good ones like me, but bad for many others out there. 4. If you can post a picture of your Audio/Video cabinet, I would tell you exactly the scoop. 5. No it wasn't a typo, I talked about the 1008 as well the 3008. 6. There are several type of cooling systems for your electronics that runs warmer; the easiest way is one on the top of your component, others use a back panel with couple fans installed (that works great too). * In your case here, just a simple 4" fan in top of your receiver (at the right spot) is all you truly need. ~ Are you willing to remove the back cover, or would you rather install couple fans in that rear cover? ~ Hom much space is available in your biggest shelf (height)? [For a regular receiver or amp, you normally need roughly 10 inches minimum up to about 12 inches; that should give you roughly between 3 and 5 inches of free space above this component.] ...Some receivers or amps can get away with only a couple of inches above, and others need about 6 inches for free air circulation. The 876 would be fine with 3 or 4 inches above, if you follow my avove tips from my very first post (#1). Even with only 2 inches above, it's still workable. But the rear needs to be open or installed with a couple 4" fans, and the front needs to be also open. As for the sides, a couple inches on each side (or so) is fine. ~ There is a very good reason why quality Audio/Video racks have height adjustable shelves. And their rear panel is simply thin plywood that is easily removable. And with careful wire's management, you won't see a thing and it will look just like a professional job. 7. Comes a time in life when you have to take charge and stop being stuck in what you were instructed or vindicated to believe. 8. I'm here to help you out and free yourself of all the constraints of this world. Trust me on this, I wouldn't say it in this forum right here if I was not knowwing what I'm talking about. 9. The final decision will always be yours; I'm just your guide in what I understand to be the real ordeal or confusion, or uncertainty, or doubt about what you are facing right now. 10. Not only I have experience in Audio and Video and Music and Films for over 40 years, but I am also extremely intelligent ![]() * I spent days, weeks, months in the past (with hundreds of hours, and more) with one single person on how to set up his entire room (from all the designing; I studied design at school, to the selection of all the components), and for FREE! But I don't do it as much now, because most people won't take this trip with me; they will usually quit before the end is over. All this to say that I'll give you all my time, but you have to give me some trust, or it simpy won't work. ...Tough too, when you don't really know the person from the Internet... But I tell you this though: even tougher when you meet a person that you think you know and that is not as interested to help you out as I am here myself with proven records. Why would I spend so much time to write very explicative and precise posts with obvious knowledge and direct experience on these subjects right here right now? I am working on your trust, and you can find more about me by reading my posts here at Blu-ray.com, as well at the Emotiva Lounge, as well at Audio Karma, as well at High Def Digest.com, as well at Audioholics, as well at AVS Forum, as well at Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity, as well at Sound & Vision Mag, as well at Home Theater Mag, as well at Ultimate AV Mag, as well at AVForums (UK), as well several other French Audio/Video sites all across the world (Quebec, Canada, France, Morocco, Spain, Germany, the Netherlands, Mexico, Brazil, Sweden, Japan, China, Thailand, and many more...). I'm easy to find out, my username is always the same. * But don't look for me a Facebook or Twitter, you simply won't find me there! ![]() And that's about it for this morning... ![]() P.S. Sorry for the typos. Last edited by LordoftheRings; 10-28-2010 at 03:14 AM. Reason: stypos |
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as far as heat goes, i don't care what brand receiver you are using, if you cannot give it the exact minimum required space for cooling as listed in the manual then don't buy it because you will be the cause of problems and failure for it. whenever possible do all you can to give it more in the way of space then what the minimum requires and you will be doing fine. also, don't set your receiver ontop of an amp! you'd be shocked to hear folks say that they have done this and want to know what's wrong as well as don't set components directly on top of the receiver (stacked). again, give it at least the minimum required and better to go beyond it.
more times than not if you can simply have your receiver completely open to the atmosphere you won't need a cooling fan. the other thing is to not try to over drive the receiver beyond what it can give continuously. if you have speakers that need lots of power and you like to play them loud, get a receiver that has pre-outs and get an external amp or get a pre-amp and an external amp that can provide you with the power you need to drive those speakers at the volume you want/need. the last thing is to make sure you know what you are getting before you get it. the first thing you should look at is the spec's to see the power rating for all channels driven, also believe it or not, how much the receiver weighs can give you good hint on how it's made and what kind of power section is inside of it. if the thing is a 7.1 receiver and weighs like 12lbs i'd stear clear of that ![]() 50lbs so it had some real power behind it, all channels driven! you must also consider your budget as well for the last suggestion 2 suggestions but you should always do lots of research. too many folks on here (not talking about any one person in particular either) buy stuff then say it's crap or it didn't work right when the truth more times than not is they didn't put the time in for research on it before buying it. you must also have a certain baseline of knowledge about these things to. how many times have i seen folks saying this is my first dive into HT ever, i bought all this stuff and want to bi-amp how do i do it? why, why, why--considering they admitted they are just getting into the thing and already are asking about bi-amping! do research and don't get in over your head, that's what i can and do tell everyone and almost everytime you will end up with what you want and it will perform with no surprises (unless you got a dud) when you need it to work. best of luck, keep us posted. |
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I have the 876 and I do like it very much. I have to say that it gets quite hot even with the control turned off. I have a small place (see my gallery) without any airconditioning and during the summer time it really did heat the whole place up to a point where I occasionally chose not listen music/watch a movie since it wasn't comfortable anymore (ok I do have a kuro which heats up quite a bit also ![]() This is not a major problem and if you have cool(ed)/big room you probably won't even notice anything, but if your place is anything like mine I think it's something to consider. I still like the receiver a lot and would warmly recommend it ![]() |
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Bob, your post are pretty much my security blanket.. you have my complete trust on everything.. all im fimilar with is BD players and TV's im lost on the HT side thats why i came to you.. i love reading your post they are like short stories and really break down things that i dont have to re ask because i want this to be the smart choice, when i got into this game about 2 years ago i rushed and bought a HTIB and been regretting it ever since.. im even trying to sell it and that hasn't seem to work.. so im probably just going to give it to my brother or somebody who wants it to make way for my new system.. that Denon looks nice; however i just dont have the money for it right now plus if i have to get amps for it to make it as powerful as the 876 then it makes no sense, especially if you're saying the 876 is already much more powerful at a much cheaper price and even more cheaper if you added amps to the Denon..I am not really a gullabile person i just tend to hear all options then go back to the person i trust(you) and ask them on these issues ive heard.. 40 years in business is more then enough to have me trust you, and trust me when i do get this set up ill be knocking on your avatar with what settings should i use, wires shoud i get what goes where, etc.. ![]() again you're like my personal guide from Canada (that probably likes a bad hockey team- go Penguins!) and you have my trust, Big Daddys has turned me onto some amazing speakers that i will probably end up getting its between them and the Def Techs ive heard at Best Buy and you've narrow down the receivers i should look at.. oh and other equipment not sure if this makes a difference but i have Sony BD550 player and Samsung LN40750 series TV i currently have 3 HDMI wires being used.. sorry for the delay im at work and things get a little crazy.. Thanks Again, Chris Last edited by nolfoc; 10-27-2010 at 07:38 PM. |
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my living room is pretty much almost like yours.. its a tad bigger and i dont have an audio tower like you do, i have a cabinet that sits under my tv on the wall.. by the way i do love your set up its very clean and sexy |
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so should i just not put the receiver in one of the shelves on my tv stand? should i just place it on top like next to my center speaker? |
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I have the previous year version of this AVR - 875. I would highly recommend the 876 UNLESS you plan on adopting 3D in the very near future. Awesome power section, loaded with features, REON video processor, superb build quality.
Regarding heat, I use a small flat fan and plug it into the switched outlet of my 875 and place it atop the right rear corner. |
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as i recommended, based on whatever the manual states (as far as clearances for ventilation is concerned) do at least that. if it says something like 3" on all sides and 4" on top of clearance (remember that was just an example, you'll have to download the manual and read it) then you should be fine as long as there isn't anything else inside that enclosed shelf area that is giving off heat. the reason they give that clearance is because it's determined that for the unit to dissapate it's heat properly, that information given in the minimum it needs to do so and they usually mean with no other heat dissapating devices if it's in a confined space.
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I'm having a tough day! Tooth infection, heavy medication...
![]() * I think I will survive though! ![]() ![]() ______________________ And like you said it so well my friend; get at least a receiver that has preouts for all channels. And always leave enough space for air circulation. ...And I also owned the Onkyo 805, and it weighted exactly 50.9 pounds! ![]() (Not close to 50 like you said, but one pound over 50.) ![]() Last edited by LordoftheRings; 10-27-2010 at 11:33 PM. Reason: ____________ |
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![]() If you have a Blu-ray player with two HDMI outputs (Oppo BDP-93 or some Panny models) you'll be getting 3D with your 875. ![]() * My 876 (with about 4" of space above, and with the front and rear open, plus a small 3" fan on top), does not run any hotter than of all my other receivers from the past. ![]() Just sayin'. ![]() |
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so i just stopped by bb on my way home and saw they have one Onkyo 807 that they are selling for 300.00 bucks.. its an open model that was previously being used in the Magnolia section.. salesman told me they are not going to carry Onkyo anymore because they are going with Marantz from here on out.. is the 807 at that price worth it? |
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