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Old 12-05-2007, 04:25 PM   #1
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Talking Microsoft sucks even more

Just in case any of you were wondering if Microsoft still sucks, the answer is a resounding yes. From pay offs, to underhanded business and now they are screwing their 360 supporters even more (as if the junk console design was not enough) here is the report from Kotaku Story Here

For those of us at work here is the run down, M$ has incorporated a new feature in to Xbox Market place. When your using a silver (non paying account) you no longer have access to many of the free downloads (pics,dash boards,ect) that you use to. Instead you are now greated by a screen that tells you "This item is only available to Xbox Live Gold members. Silver Members can check again in a few days or Upgrade to an Xbox Live Gold Member ship". I am sorry but this is a travesty, with all the paying members why should they care is others are just using the marketplace to download FREE content? M$ is officially the worst company in existance.
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Old 12-05-2007, 04:27 PM   #2
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MS may not be the best company in the world, but Sony isn't that great either... ever hear of rootkit?
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Old 12-05-2007, 04:42 PM   #3
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MS may not be the best company in the world, but Sony isn't that great either... ever hear of rootkit?

From the neutral guy in blu disguise that posted " FWIW I still prefer Blu-ray, but I just couldn't resist a $99 HD DVD player.", you can get back to play your Xcrap360 now, thanks.
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Old 12-05-2007, 04:47 PM   #4
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From the neutral guy in blu disguise that posted " FWIW I still prefer Blu-ray, but I just couldn't resist a $99 HD DVD player.", you can get back to play your Xcrap360 now, thanks.


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MS may not be the best company in the world, but Sony isn't that great either... ever hear of rootkit?
Sony's mistake with rootkit is hardly compairable to the huge number of problems M$ has created. So I ask you ever heard of Netscape? How about Paramount? Maybe Windows Vista? The list is endless and if it were not for my new policy of trusting new users I would be calling you a troll right about now.
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Old 12-05-2007, 04:51 PM   #5
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Sony's mistake with rootkit is hardly compairable to the huge number of problems M$ has created. So I ask you ever heard of Netscape? How about Paramount? Maybe Windows Vista? The list is endless and if it were not for my new policy of trusting new users I would be calling you a troll right about now.

Say it ain't so. A Microsoft apologist masquerading as a blu-ray fan. I think it's really valid for a person to cut down another company in order to justify the actions of another For example, Microsoft isn't that bad, because at least they don't take advantage of slave labour from concentration camps like Volkswagen (car of choice for the Fuhr).

It's easy. Next, just use a strawman tactic. If there is anything wrong with the post, mention it so as to invalidate the entire post. It works wonders and is a staple of many American politicians.

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Old 12-05-2007, 04:47 PM   #6
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Let's keep this civil, but also stick to the topic of free online gaming service offerings.
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Old 12-05-2007, 07:09 PM   #7
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Let's keep this civil, but also stick to the topic of free online gaming service offerings.
Correct and I apologize for going off topic.
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Old 12-05-2007, 04:51 PM   #8
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MS may not be the best company in the world, but Sony isn't that great either... ever hear of rootkit?
using a small negative to combat something that's a negative among several others really proves your point

MS is one of the worst companies...you will be hard pressed to find a company that is squeaky clean..

but MS has weasels up and down the organization...period..
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:18 AM   #9
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using a small negative to combat something that's a negative among several others really proves your point

MS is one of the worst companies...you will be hard pressed to find a company that is squeaky clean..

but MS has weasels up and down the organization...period..
you could make this case with almost any company. but being at blu-ray.com, microsoft is naturally one of the more hated companies.

i think a lot of people forget how bad some of the ps1 and ps2 stuff were. none of the companies are doing things the way we think they should.

and i know vista will get thrown in here as the worst os ever. but obviously nobody remembers 95, 98, me, etc. at the release of all of their new os' there were tons of complaints, but as time went on. they got less buggy and more stable. the same is happening with vista right now. people are just too stubborn and blind to see.

all that being said, i've never liked microsoft.
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:24 AM   #10
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you could make this case with almost any company. but being at blu-ray.com, microsoft is naturally one of the more hated companies.
It's hated at other places too.

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i think a lot of people forget how bad some of the ps1 and ps2 stuff were.
What stuff?

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none of the companies are doing things the way we think they should.
Companies are run by people, and people are not perfect. What's new?

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and i know vista will get thrown in here as the worst os ever. but obviously nobody remembers 95, 98, me, etc. at the release of all of their new os' there were tons of complaints, but as time went on. they got less buggy and more stable. the same is happening with vista right now.
Those who got rape by microcrap will hate microcrap, it's that simple. Who cares which os is worse.

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people are just too stubborn and blind to see.
They can see, that's why such a thread like this exist to begin with.

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all that being said, i've never liked microsoft.
I hope you're not a troll. Not saying you are.
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:26 AM   #11
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i'm not sure i see a point to your response
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:38 AM   #12
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you could make this case with almost any company. but being at blu-ray.com, microsoft is naturally one of the more hated companies.

i think a lot of people forget how bad some of the ps1 and ps2 stuff were. none of the companies are doing things the way we think they should.

and i know vista will get thrown in here as the worst os ever. but obviously nobody remembers 95, 98, me, etc. at the release of all of their new os' there were tons of complaints, but as time went on. they got less buggy and more stable. the same is happening with vista right now. people are just too stubborn and blind to see.

all that being said, i've never liked microsoft.
I was burned by one of the early PS2's...the 360's failure rate only looks REAL bad because of how stable the PS3 has been..
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Old 12-06-2007, 02:03 AM   #13
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I'll never pay for XBL when I can do so much for free on PSN or the PC.
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Old 12-06-2007, 02:10 AM   #14
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Every company does something bad. Remember Nintendo when they wouldn't let a publisher make games for them if they were making games for Sega or how they wouldn't give a retailer enough copies of Super Mario 3 if they were selling Sega games.

A lot of companies have shady practices but this thread is about MS and they have done shady things time and time again.
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Old 12-06-2007, 01:44 AM   #15
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MS may not be the best company in the world, but Sony isn't that great either... ever hear of rootkit?
yes i have and you know microsoft has gone on and gave a free root kit with every purchase of a Windows OS since 95'. YES THAT'S RIGHT Microsoft has a built in root kit to all windows OS's and there is nothing you can do about it at all except not use windows. other than that you will have a free root kit preinstalled on your computer.

SONY is not the only one who uses root kits.
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Old 12-05-2007, 04:28 PM   #16
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Just in case any of you were wondering if Microsoft still sucks, the answer is a resounding yes. From pay offs, to underhanded business and now they are screwing their 360 supporters even more (as if the junk console design was not enough) here is the report from Kotaku Story Here

For those of us at work here is the run down, M$ has incorporated a new feature in to Xbox Market place. When your using a silver (non paying account) you no longer have access to many of the free downloads (pics,dash boards,ect) that you use to. Instead you are now greated by a screen that tells you "This item is only available to Xbox Live Gold members. Silver Members can check again in a few days or Upgrade to an Xbox Live Gold Member ship". I am sorry but this is a travesty, with all the paying members why should they care is others are just using the marketplace to download FREE content? M$ is officially the worst company in existance.
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Old 12-05-2007, 04:34 PM   #17
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Xbox is all about ripping people off. You want wifi it will be another $100 please, you want online play there will be a monthly charge for that, you want rechargeable controllers you'll have to buy the batteries and charger yourself, no internet browsing included because MS would have to give you internet explorer.
Hell, they didn't even test the xbox 360's thoroughly before shipping them out:
http://360-gamer.com/xbox360hardwarefailureresults.asp

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/games/ar..._xbox_360.html
"survey by Xbox360 Gamer which found some people who'd had up to 7 faulty consoles."

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Old 12-05-2007, 04:30 PM   #18
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Just in case any of you were wondering if Microsoft still sucks, the answer is a resounding yes. From pay offs, to underhanded business and now they are screwing their 360 supporters even more (as if the junk console design was not enough) here is the report from Kotaku Story Here

For those of us at work here is the run down, M$ has incorporated a new feature in to Xbox Market place. When your using a silver (non paying account) you no longer have access to many of the free downloads (pics,dash boards,ect) that you use to. Instead you are now greated by a screen that tells you "This item is only available to Xbox Live Gold members. Silver Members can check again in a few days or Upgrade to an Xbox Live Gold Member ship". I am sorry but this is a travesty, with all the paying members why should they care is others are just using the marketplace to download FREE content? M$ is officially the worst company in existance.
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Old 12-05-2007, 04:34 PM   #19
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Hey Sonny, where you at?

I don't see how people can defend M$ for charging to play online. If you ask me, playing online should be free; if anything charge people if they want that extra crap. I play for free on my PC, PS3 and won't be re-newing my live account.
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Hey Sonny, where you at?

I don't see how people can defend M$ for charging to play online. If you ask me, playing online should be free; if anything charge people if they want that extra crap. I play for free on my PC, PS3 and won't be re-newing my live account.
Not only do they charge people for playing online they don't even have central servers, all the online is basically P2P.
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