Should the Disney Vault still exist?

[ProjectB]

The Disney Vault is the practice used by Disney to put home media releases of their animated classics out of print. Each Disney film is available for purchase for a limited amount of time, after which it is put back "in the vault" and this also means digital copies are not available as well. What are peoples opinions?

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by ProjectB

The Disney Vault is the practice used by Disney to put home media releases of their animated classics out of print. Each Disney film is available for purchase for a limited amount of time, after which it is put back "in the vault" and this also means digital copies are not available as well. What are peoples opinions?

It's not "each film", it's a handful of titles, really, and when was the last title to get vaulted?

[20th Century Boy]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

It's not "each film", it's a handful of titles, really, and when was the last title to get vaulted?

What about the ones that've never seen the light of day a first time?

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by 20th Century Boy

What about the ones that've never seen the light of day a first time?

Like what? The only Disney animated feature never given a home video release is Music Land, a mash-up of the most popular sequences from Make Mine Music and Melody Time. Walt released it in the 50's, it's so obscure, it doesn't even have an imdb page last time I checked. I don't know if this counts, but then you also have the Irwin Kostal 1982 version of Fantasia. Everything else has been released in one form or another, even Song of the South on Japanese laserdisc.

[esteban²]

This is discussed in the Disney BR thread on the other part of the forum. Can't paste link on my phone. It's in the North America BR section.

[ITDEFX101]

So my copy that I got dirt cheap on BF last year is going to go POOF from my digital collection in the next few months?

[jeremyparker84]

There will always be people who don't have them and want them. Obviou$ly, the $y$tem $till work$ or they'd $hut it down

Originally Posted by ITDEFX101

So my copy that I got dirt cheap on BF last year is going to go POOF from my digital collection in the next few months?

Haha no, once you have it in your library, it stays. Going in the vault just means it won't be available to purchase from retail or digital stores.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by ITDEFX101

So my copy that I got dirt cheap on BF last year is going to go POOF from my digital collection in the next few months?

No...the OP worded what he said awkwardly - he meant once a title was vaulted, you could also no longer buy it on iTuens, DMA, Vudu, etc. Your digital copies are fine, they aren't going anywhere, and in fact when titles come back to market, you typically get the new bonus features for free if you already own the digital copy, and two weeks out before the physical version to boot.

[imsounoriginal]

It's a business model that's clearly worked for them, so why should it go away?

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

It's a business model that's clearly worked for them, so why should it go away?

See also Lucas, Spielberg (at least for a while with E.T.), the Bond films and others over the years (Intrada, Shout Factory, etc.). Shoot, limiting availability of product creates intense buyer's urgency, a common sales tactic. If the Mouse vaulted everything, I'd understand the gripes, but we're really only talking about less than 1/5th of their feature animation library, and who doesn't own those titles already by this point?

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

See also Lucas, Spielberg (at least for a while with E.T.), the Bond films and others over the years (Intrada, Shout Factory, etc.). Shoot, limiting availability of product creates intense buyer's urgency, a common sales tactic. If the Mouse vaulted everything, I'd understand the gripes, but we're really only talking about less than 1/5th of their feature animation library, and who doesn't own those titles already by this point?

Plenty of people. There are always new couples who have a kid that's just about at the age when they would like to put together some classic Disney films for them to see, only to discover some are in the "vault". There's no reason for it. Disney letting it back out of the vault years later won't help the parents who have kids now that are at the age where they would enjoy watching them.

As others have said, it just encourages piracy. If Disney doesn't want to sell you their films, people will find them other ways. It also encourages Ebay/Amazon scalpers.

[esteban²]

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=195921

[ProjectB]

Originally Posted by ProjectB

The Disney Vault is the practice used by Disney to put home media releases of their animated classics out of print. Each Disney film is available for purchase for a limited amount of time, after which it is put back "in the vault" and this also means digital copies are not available as well. What are peoples opinions?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl4J...ature=youtu.be

[headphones]

The Disney vault doesnt really matter anymore, now that we have the internet.

[ProjectB]

The main issue with the vault is that it encourages piracy when a film in the vault becomes unavailable for a uncertain amount of time.

[headphones]

Originally Posted by ProjectB

The main issue with the vault is that it encourages piracy when a film in the vault becomes unavailable for a uncertain amount of time.

It certainly encourages it. But I dont think piracy is that affected by the vault.

[Foggy]

Should the Disney Vault still exist?

Yes, but every home should have one.

[20th Century Boy]

The strategy may make Disney and scalpers more money, but for average consumers it sucks. I see no benefit in it to regular joes & janes. Screw the vault system.

EDIT: Disney also needs to stop scrubbing grain on their animated releases.

[ArrestedDevelopment]

No. It's a scumbag move.

[Talal86]

no