Dodgy Warner’s Rant - Blu-ray Forum

dawson1138 · 09-21-2021, 03:18 AM

I am so over Warner Brothers being dodgy with their new 4K movies!

Every single ones gets a new file on iTunes and the old one that is already purchased is never updated.

So frustrating. Every other company is on the boat but not them.

The latest being Clockwork Orange.

I know it’s been happening a while but it’s just rough.

-Gonzo- · 09-21-2021, 05:09 AM

Welcome to the club, it’s been happening across most of the studios in the UK for years, the only reliable one seems to be Paramount.

FilmMan85 · 09-21-2021, 07:29 AM

And Fox.

At least they were until Disney took over. I can’t remember any 4K upgrades since them.

XanderAE · 09-21-2021, 07:44 AM

History has shown us that although Warner Bros. relist films, they do upgrade previous versions eventually. It's not a guarantee, but there is hope.

kannibaliztik · 09-21-2021, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by FilmMan85

And Fox.

At least they were until Disney took over. I can’t remember any 4K upgrades since them.

Do you have an example

erlinmeyer · 09-21-2021, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by dawson1138

I am so over Warner Brothers being dodgy with their new 4K movies!

Every single ones gets a new file on iTunes and the old one that is already purchased is never updated.

So frustrating. Every other company is on the boat but not them.

The latest being Clockwork Orange.

I know it’s been happening a while but it’s just rough.

Kind of confused. You paid for a 4K version of a film and then Warner came out with another 4K version and you didn't get that as well? Or you bought the HD or SD version and now that Warner has a 4K version you weren't given that for free? Only see one 4K version on iTunes for A Clockwork Orange.

kannibaliztik · 09-21-2021, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by erlinmeyer

Kind of confused. You paid for a 4K version of a film and then Warner came out with another 4K version and you didn't get that as well? Or you bought the HD or SD version and now that Warner has a 4K version you weren't given that for free? Only see one 4K version on iTunes for A Clockwork Orange.

theres currently 2 listings. Looking like old HD purchases will not get the 4K upgrade.

erlinmeyer · 09-21-2021, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by kannibaliztik

theres currently 2 listings. Looking like old HD purchases will not get the 4K upgrade.

As I said, only see one 4K version. The light color is the 4K version. The Black cover is HD or SD.
My Laserdisc never got upgraded for free either. Am outraged ... and entitled.

kannibaliztik · 09-21-2021, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by erlinmeyer

As I said, only see one 4K version. The light color is the 4K version. The Black cover is HD or SD.
My Laserdisc never got upgraded for free either. Am outraged ... and entitled.

Yes, the HD looks like it is not getting upgraded, hence the original post. Thanks for your useless contribution though.

erlinmeyer · 09-21-2021, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kannibaliztik

Yes, the HD looks like it is not getting upgraded, hence the original post. Thanks for your useless contribution though.

Dawson never said HD anyplace in the OP. Do you see HD?

Slamming someone must make you feel so righteous.

kannibaliztik · 09-21-2021, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by erlinmeyer

Dawson never said HD anyplace in the OP. Do you see HD?

Slamming someone must make you feel so righteous.

You are the one who came here and felt the need to start being a jackass, but sure, whatever.

erlinmeyer · 09-21-2021, 11:29 AM

What part of "Kind of confused. You paid for a 4K version of a film and then Warner came out with another 4K version and you didn't get that as well? Or you bought the HD or SD version and now that Warner has a 4K version you weren't given that for free? Only see one 4K version on iTunes for A Clockwork Orange." is being a "jackass"? It was asking for clarification.
Again it seems like a personal attack from you.

ngstime · 09-21-2021, 02:14 PM

Warner Bros did this with Willie Wonka, and it appeared like they were trying to get out of upgrading the previous listing by relisting. However, my previously listed Willy Wonka "did" upgrade to 4k shortly after.

I suspect Clockwork Orange will upgrade shortly with a little patience.

What other movies got this dodgy treatment from Warner, but the previous listing "Did Not" ever get upgraded to 4k?

mckee74 · 09-21-2021, 03:35 PM

I'm more amazed that from the above image, A Clockwork Orange is described as a comedy.

SleazyForWeasley · 09-21-2021, 04:24 PM

Maybe I'm missing something, but I can totally understand that studios don't want to upgrade their digital copies at no charge. They're not giving you a free 4K UHD disc if you bought the Blu-ray disc 5 years ago. If you buy a 4K UHD disc, redeem the new code and you'll have a 4K digital copy.

XanderAE · 09-21-2021, 04:40 PM

I can understand studios not wanting to give free 4K upgrades. I have re-purchased my fair share of relisted WB titles in the past, so I get it.

The sticking point for people however is this remark from the original Apple TV4K press release: “iTunes users will get automatic upgrades of HD titles in their existing iTunes library to 4K HDR versions when they become available.” As far as I’m aware, this has not changed. WBs continual relisting of movies does contravene this statement, rightly or wrongly.

jdavhill · 09-21-2021, 06:08 PM

So strange because Full Metal Jacket upgraded the same day and wasn’t re-listed. The re-listing is what annoys me because it implies rather clearly that WB is not interested in upgrading old HD versions.

critterdvd · 09-21-2021, 06:13 PM

So something I noticed with Warner Brothers is that a lot of the movies that I purchased digitally will upgrade eventually, but movies redeemed from a digital code or VUDU Disc-to-Digital remain HD.

SleazyForWeasley · 09-21-2021, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderAE

I can understand studios not wanting to give free 4K upgrades. I have re-purchased my fair share of relisted WB titles in the past, so I get it.

The sticking point for people however is this remark from the original Apple TV4K press release: “iTunes users will get automatic upgrades of HD titles in their existing iTunes library to 4K HDR versions when they become available.” As far as I’m aware, this has not changed. WBs continual relisting of movies does contravene this statement, rightly or wrongly.

I'd be curious to find out if there's a difference between something purchased directly from iTunes where that purchase gets you the upgrade vs. a digital code redeemed with a disc which maybe doesn't? I don't pay enough attention to digital codes. If that is indeed the case, they should probably re-write the language moving forward.

kannibaliztik · 09-21-2021, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyForWeasley

I'd be curious to find out if there's a difference between something purchased directly from iTunes where that purchase gets you the upgrade vs. a digital code redeemed with a disc which maybe doesn't? I don't pay enough attention to digital codes. If that is indeed the case, they should probably re-write the language moving forward.

No, HD purchases or redeems are treated the same for 4K upgrades.

09-21-2021, 03:18 AM	#1
dawson1138 Member Member since:Aug 2010	Dodgy Warner’s Rant I am so over Warner Brothers being dodgy with their new 4K movies! Every single ones gets a new file on iTunes and the old one that is already purchased is never updated. So frustrating. Every other company is on the boat but not them. The latest being Clockwork Orange. I know it’s been happening a while but it’s just rough. Last edited by dawson1138; 09-21-2021 at 03:24 AM.

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09-21-2021, 05:09 AM	#2
-Gonzo- Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Apr 2017 Blu-ray collection:287 DVD collection:64 MA collection:11 iTunes collection:1254 Trading Score:7	Welcome to the club, it’s been happening across most of the studios in the UK for years, the only reliable one seems to be Paramount.

09-21-2021, 07:29 AM	#3
FilmMan85 Senior Member Member since:Aug 2021	And Fox. At least they were until Disney took over. I can’t remember any 4K upgrades since them.

09-21-2021, 07:44 AM	#4
XanderAE Power Member Top contributor Member since:Jun 2007 Home Theater Gallery:10 Trading Score:27	History has shown us that although Warner Bros. relist films, they do upgrade previous versions eventually. It's not a guarantee, but there is hope.

09-21-2021, 11:29 AM	#12
erlinmeyer Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jun 2009 Location:Minnesota 4K collection:713 Blu-ray collection:5088 DVD collection:427 MA collection:1726 Digital collection:1776 iTunes collection:2606 iTunes music:732 Prime collection:1300 Blu-ray reviews: 9 Trading Score:11	What part of "Kind of confused. You paid for a 4K version of a film and then Warner came out with another 4K version and you didn't get that as well? Or you bought the HD or SD version and now that Warner has a 4K version you weren't given that for free? Only see one 4K version on iTunes for A Clockwork Orange." is being a "jackass"? It was asking for clarification. Again it seems like a personal attack from you.

09-21-2021, 02:14 PM	#13
ngstime New Member Member since:Apr 2019 iTunes collection:1682 Prime collection:1	Warner Bros did this with Willie Wonka, and it appeared like they were trying to get out of upgrading the previous listing by relisting. However, my previously listed Willy Wonka "did" upgrade to 4k shortly after. I suspect Clockwork Orange will upgrade shortly with a little patience. What other movies got this dodgy treatment from Warner, but the previous listing "Did Not" ever get upgraded to 4k?

09-21-2021, 03:35 PM	#14
mckee74 Special Member Member since:Nov 2009 4K collection:302 Blu-ray collection:1225 DVD collection:436 Digital collection:583 iTunes collection:1267 Trading Score:258	I'm more amazed that from the above image, A Clockwork Orange is described as a comedy.

09-21-2021, 04:24 PM	#15
SleazyForWeasley Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2011 Location:330-hio 4K collection:239 Blu-ray collection:877 DVD collection:117 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:18 Prime collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:3	Maybe I'm missing something, but I can totally understand that studios don't want to upgrade their digital copies at no charge. They're not giving you a free 4K UHD disc if you bought the Blu-ray disc 5 years ago. If you buy a 4K UHD disc, redeem the new code and you'll have a 4K digital copy.

09-21-2021, 04:40 PM	#16
XanderAE Power Member Top contributor Member since:Jun 2007 Home Theater Gallery:10 Trading Score:27	I can understand studios not wanting to give free 4K upgrades. I have re-purchased my fair share of relisted WB titles in the past, so I get it. The sticking point for people however is this remark from the original Apple TV4K press release: “iTunes users will get automatic upgrades of HD titles in their existing iTunes library to 4K HDR versions when they become available.” As far as I’m aware, this has not changed. WBs continual relisting of movies does contravene this statement, rightly or wrongly.

09-21-2021, 06:08 PM	#17
jdavhill Member Member since:Sep 2010 Blu-ray collection:14 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:4	So strange because Full Metal Jacket upgraded the same day and wasn’t re-listed. The re-listing is what annoys me because it implies rather clearly that WB is not interested in upgrading old HD versions.

09-21-2021, 06:13 PM	#18
critterdvd Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Southern California 4K collection:439 Blu-ray collection:4073 DVD collection:2208 MA collection:983 Digital collection:192 iTunes collection:534 Prime collection:21 Trading Score:5	So something I noticed with Warner Brothers is that a lot of the movies that I purchased digitally will upgrade eventually, but movies redeemed from a digital code or VUDU Disc-to-Digital remain HD.

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