Cutthroat Island: Lionsgate vs Studio Canal - Blu-ray Forum

Markgway · 04-23-2022, 05:57 PM

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&...=91792&i=9&l=0

Quite a difference!

Both are flawed to me, with the LG looking somewhat drab and slathered in DNR, whilst the SC looks like it's from an older but more vibrant master.

What are your opinions?

SC has the original(?) 5.1 DTS track whilst LG has a 7.1 remix.

Filmmaker · 04-23-2022, 06:07 PM

Screw the 7.1. The StudioCanal trounces the Lionsgate so thoroughly, so embarrassingy, on the video front while still holding its own quite commendably on the audio front, this isn’t even a contest.

jess1581 · 04-23-2022, 06:14 PM

I prefer the Lionsgate... SC looks too blown out.

Markgway · 04-23-2022, 06:21 PM

The SC is a touch blownout, true, and the edge enhancement may(?) be a tad more noticeable, but I think the overall appearence of the SC is better than the dull and grainless LG. CI is a bright, colourful, vibrant adventure picture, but only the (admittedly imperfect) SC comes close to replicating that.

Filmmaker · 04-23-2022, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jess1581

I prefer the Lionsgate..Lions gate... SC looks too blown out.

jess1581 · 04-23-2022, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Filmmaker

Just a preference my dude.

TravisTylerBlack · 04-23-2022, 07:52 PM

Judging by the caps alone I'm not sure how anyone could prefer the blown-out look of the Studio Canal. Clearly an older 2K master that's been sharpened, brightened, and color boosted.

The grain reduction on the Lionsgate is regrettable (not that I'm seeing much grain on the SC) but the superior color grade easily tips the scales in its favor IMO. Anyway, it's the one I own and it looks quite solid in motion. Would buy a proper 4K edition in a heartbeat though.

jess1581 · 04-23-2022, 07:56 PM

The LG release isn't one of the botched manufactured releases that go bad after awhile right?

Markgway · 04-23-2022, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TravisTylerBlack

Judging by the caps alone I'm not sure how anyone could prefer the blown-out look of the Studio Canal. Clearly an older 2K master that's been sharpened, brightened, and color boosted.

That could be right but I'm not seeing any more detail on the LG.

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The grain reduction on the Lionsgate is regrettable (not that I'm seeing much grain on the SC) but the superior color grade easily tips the scales in its favor IMO.

Really? I find the LG really drab and lifeless.

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x...7&l=1&i=4&go=1

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Would buy a proper 4K edition in a heartbeat though.

That part we can agree on.

HorrorBlu · 04-23-2022, 08:26 PM

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The LG release isn't one of the botched manufactured releases that go bad after awhile right?

It is one from their rotter era, but if you get a recent pressing it should be fine. I wouldn't recommend buying it used.

Filmmaker · 04-23-2022, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TravisTylerBlack

Judging by the caps alone I'm not sure how anyone could prefer the blown-out look of the Studio Canal. Clearly an older 2K master that's been sharpened, brightened, and color boosted.

The grain reduction on the Lionsgate is regrettable (not that I'm seeing much grain on the SC) but the superior color grade easily tips the scales in its favor IMO. Anyway, it's the one I own and it looks quite solid in motion.

jess1581 · 04-23-2022, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HorrorBlu

It is one from their rotter era, but if you get a recent pressing it should be fine. I wouldn't recommend buying it used.

I own a copy from when it first came out, but it has played fine throughout the years. So if I purchase a copy from Amazon, I'm gonna get a newer pressed disc that won't rot on me?

TravisTylerBlack · 04-23-2022, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Markgway

Really? I find the LG really drab and lifeless.

LG color looks far more natural and cinematic IMO. Admittedly though, as someone who has worked frequently in color correction I have a strong bias against overly-brightened transfers. Also the SC is littered with scanner noise, a true hallmark of a dated HD master. Very similar to their release of Brotherhood of The Wolf.

drush9999 · 04-23-2022, 10:06 PM

I have the German SC, but it was miles better than the ancient late 90s non-anamorphic Artisan DVD I used to own, so unless a great looking BD or UHD comes out, meh.

captainjoe · 04-23-2022, 11:48 PM

This is like trying to decide which rotten egg tastes better. At the end of the day they both suck and we need a 4K!

Benoit Blanc · 04-23-2022, 11:55 PM

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Markgway · 04-24-2022, 01:38 PM

I've ordered the SC so we'll see how it looks in motion.

Fat Phil · 04-24-2022, 02:00 PM

They both look like ass. Just opposite ends of the spectrum.

danny24 · 04-24-2022, 04:04 PM

All this thread has done is make me want a Blu-ray really bad for Earth Girls Are Easy. Both transfers could be better but Cutthroat Island is a fun movie needs a 4K release badly and Earth Girls Are Easy a Blu-ray. One of Geena's best movies imo.

Benoit Blanc · 04-30-2022, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by danny24

All this thread has done is make me want a Blu-ray really bad for Earth Girls Are Easy. Both transfers could be better but Cutthroat Island is a fun movie needs a 4K release badly and Earth Girls Are Easy a Blu-ray. One of Geena's best movies imo.

04-23-2022, 05:57 PM	#1
Markgway Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jul 2013 Location:Scotland Trading Score:13	Cutthroat Island: Lionsgate vs Studio Canal https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&...=91792&i=9&l=0 Quite a difference! Both are flawed to me, with the LG looking somewhat drab and slathered in DNR, whilst the SC looks like it's from an older but more vibrant master. What are your opinions? SC has the original(?) 5.1 DTS track whilst LG has a 7.1 remix.

04-23-2022, 06:14 PM	#3
jess1581 Blu-ray Champion Member since:May 2016 Location:Fairhaven, Massachusetts 4K collection:553 Blu-ray collection:2336 Blu-ray reviews: 73	I prefer the Lionsgate... SC looks too blown out. Last edited by jess1581; 04-23-2022 at 06:44 PM.

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04-23-2022, 06:07 PM	#2
Filmmaker Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Tulsa, OK (but don't hold it against me!) Home Theater Gallery:90 4K collection:1172 Blu-ray collection:3155 DVD collection:593 Trading Score:24	Screw the 7.1. The StudioCanal trounces the Lionsgate so thoroughly, so embarrassingy, on the video front while still holding its own quite commendably on the audio front, this isn’t even a contest.

04-23-2022, 06:21 PM	#4
Markgway Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jul 2013 Location:Scotland Trading Score:13	The SC is a touch blownout, true, and the edge enhancement may(?) be a tad more noticeable, but I think the overall appearence of the SC is better than the dull and grainless LG. CI is a bright, colourful, vibrant adventure picture, but only the (admittedly imperfect) SC comes close to replicating that.

04-23-2022, 07:52 PM	#7
TravisTylerBlack Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2014 Location:Los Angeles, CA 4K collection:508 Blu-ray collection:3302	Judging by the caps alone I'm not sure how anyone could prefer the blown-out look of the Studio Canal. Clearly an older 2K master that's been sharpened, brightened, and color boosted. The grain reduction on the Lionsgate is regrettable (not that I'm seeing much grain on the SC) but the superior color grade easily tips the scales in its favor IMO. Anyway, it's the one I own and it looks quite solid in motion. Would buy a proper 4K edition in a heartbeat though.

04-23-2022, 07:56 PM	#8
jess1581 Blu-ray Champion Member since:May 2016 Location:Fairhaven, Massachusetts 4K collection:553 Blu-ray collection:2336 Blu-ray reviews: 73	The LG release isn't one of the botched manufactured releases that go bad after awhile right?

04-23-2022, 10:06 PM	#14
drush9999 Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Nov 2016 Location:Sutton Coldfield, England 4K collection:566 Blu-ray collection:6093 DVD collection:488 Trading Score:1	I have the German SC, but it was miles better than the ancient late 90s non-anamorphic Artisan DVD I used to own, so unless a great looking BD or UHD comes out, meh.

04-23-2022, 11:48 PM	#15
captainjoe Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Alberta, Canada Home Theater Gallery:38 4K collection:1397 Blu-ray collection:4052 Blu-ray reviews: 5	This is like trying to decide which rotten egg tastes better. At the end of the day they both suck and we need a 4K!

04-24-2022, 01:38 PM	#17
Markgway Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jul 2013 Location:Scotland Trading Score:13	I've ordered the SC so we'll see how it looks in motion.

04-24-2022, 02:00 PM	#18
Fat Phil Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Dec 2014 4K collection:830 Blu-ray collection:830 Trading Score:1	They both look like ass. Just opposite ends of the spectrum.

04-24-2022, 04:04 PM	#19
danny24 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Feb 2010 4K collection:32 Blu-ray collection:43 Trading Score:58	All this thread has done is make me want a Blu-ray really bad for Earth Girls Are Easy. Both transfers could be better but Cutthroat Island is a fun movie needs a 4K release badly and Earth Girls Are Easy a Blu-ray. One of Geena's best movies imo.

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