Correct Title Format

[Xenothar]

Hey all,

tl;dr: Is the following title naming convention correct for adding releases to the database?

For foreign (read French, Spanish, German, ...) releases of both English as well as non-English movies (omits the original name for non-English movies):

Foreign Title (English Title)

and for English Releases with differing Original Title:

English Title (Original Title)

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Long version:

The help says:

For English DVDs/BDs always use the English title first and then the original title within parentheses (). For foreign DVDs/BDs always use the foreign title first, then the English title within parenthesis (), this will display the original/local country name as a subheading and make it searchable. Edition information should also be within parantheses (). You can edit other movies to see examples of how the titles have been set.

My understanding is as follows. The help doesn't speak of "movies", but of DVDs/BDs, therefor the individual releases are meant.

Example 1:

English Release of the German movie "Keinohrhasen", English release is translated to "Rabbit Without Ears". We are in the first part of the help paragraph, English DVD/BR, so:

English Title (Original Title) = Rabbit Without Ears (Keinohrhasen)

This is usually the case with most entries in the database and also seems intuitive for an English website.


Example 2:

Foreign Release (German) "Baymax - Riesiges Robowabohu" of the US movie "Big Hero 6". We are now in the second part of the help paragraph for foreign DVDs/BDs:

Foreign Title (English Title) = Baymax - Riesiges Robowabohu (Big Hero 6)

I am mostly seeing exactly the opposite with the English title going first and the foreign one going in parentheses. For this movie and countless others that's the case (https://www.blu-ray.com/Big-Hero-6/238316/#Releases). Am I misunderstanding something here?

So, to me, the actual lived-by rule seems to be: English title ALWAYS first, foreign title (either from this particular release or for english releases of foreign movies the original title) goes in parentheses.

Additionally, one part of the help text

"this will display the original/local country name as a subheading and make it searchable."

doesn't fit the help text from before. If the local country title aka foreign title goes in front of the parantheses as per the rule, then it will not be in the subheading, but the English title will be. This makes it even more confusing to me.

Pleaaase enlighten me, what the actual rule is. In my opinion, the one stated in the help text (Example 1 and 2) is the most logical, although it sadly seems to omit the original title for foreign releases in not-orginal language:


Example 3:

German release "Die fabelhafte Welt der Amélie" of French movie "Le fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain" should be named (English title is just "Amélie"):

Foreign Title (English Title) = Die fabelhafte Welt der Amélie (Amélie)

which would omit the original title: Le fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain.

Again I am often seeing "Foreign Title (Original Title)", also for this particular movie: https://www.blu-ray.com/Amelie/20572/#Releases, so the rule seems also not be followed here often?

I dont want to stir up an unnessesary ruckus, but I want to contribute with a correct naming scheme going forward. Maybe some senior members or approving staff could give a definitve answer and by any chance correct the help text one way or another.

Thanks :-)