Dallas (the original series) and Knots Landing - Blu-ray Forum

OceanBlue · 06-18-2020, 11:19 PM

Surprised there wasn't an existing thread for the original Dallas TV series and Knots Landing, being as the DVD releases were ages ago.

It's a shame that the original Dallas was completed, but we only got the first two seasons of Knots Landing on DVD (it's apparently music clearance issues which has stopped the remaining twelve seasons of Knots from getting physical media releases).

amccord · 06-18-2020, 11:21 PM

I was hoping flamingo road, falcon crest, Dallas, and knots landing would show up on Hbomax

OceanBlue · 06-19-2020, 09:10 PM

I've thought (and it was something I read elsewhere and now agree with) that the first five episodes of the original Dallas (which had a different Southfork) were a pilot for the series. But on DVD the seasons were incorrectly labelled. These first five episodes were called the first season. When the show started in the autumn of the same year, that season was called the second season on DVD (they were at a new Southfork, which was the one used for the remainder of the original show's thirteen year run).

For the majority of the show (think it was just the last three seasons where they shot on location only in California and on studio sets in California (there were a handful of episodes though, towards the end of the 1988-89 season, where some exterior scenes were shot on location in Europe), around the first dozen or so episodes of the season, they shot exterior locations in Texas (with some or all of the interior scenes shot on studio sets). The rest of the season, they shot on location in California. The interior Southfork scenes I think were always shot on studio sets.

Val and Gary Ewing debuted on Dallas first (technically they both played their characters for fourteen seasons, including when they were on Knots Landing), with Val I think appearing occasionly in the first season of Dallas (a different actor played Gary in a two-part episode of Dallas' first season, called "Reunion").

In Dallas' second season, the first pilot of Knots Landing aired (called "Return Engagement"). A new actor guest-starred as Gary Ewing (Ted Shackelford), and the rest is history. Knots Landing debuted shortly after that episode aired in the States, with what I think was it's second pilot (Bobby Ewing made a brief crossover appearance at the beginning of Knots Landing's first episode).

OceanBlue · 07-08-2020, 09:27 PM

Regarding the Dallas TV films, the only way you can get them on physical media DVD in the UK, is by buying the complete series boxset. However, if I remember correctly, they were released together in the States, separate from the series:

Dallas: The Early Years
Dallas: J.R. Returns
and Dallas: War of the Ewings.

OceanBlue · 07-30-2020, 11:32 PM

I'd be interested to know what songs are in the third season of Knots Landing, as I don't think Lisa Hartman joined the show until the fourth season of the series.

I'd forgotten about this until I was reminded in a reply in another discussion thread on this forum, that Betsy Palmer and Lar Park Lincoln were both on Knots around the same time (they've both appeared in the Friday the 13th film series, along with actor Terry Kiser (he guest-starred in one episode).

OceanBlue · 09-08-2020, 11:18 PM

A friend told me some news yesterday which I was gutted about, that actor Kevin Dobson has passed away. He's known for playing Crockett on the original Kojak series, but for me, I know him best for playing Mack McKenzie on the long-running drama series Knots Landing (my favourite TV series).

OceanBlue · 11-05-2020, 09:38 PM

There were a couple of examples of two different versions of an episode of Knots Landing (there was apparently a third example, but I can't think where it it could be (I'd read on a soap opera forum that Karen sees a ghost in an episode), both are from the later seasons.

When BBC One first showed the series in the UK, it was (I think) on Saturday evenings. But it was dropped because of low ratings. A few years later, the series resumed in a weekday afternoon timeslot (original episodes were still airing in the States). I remember watching the later seasons, and we weren't that far behind the States.

The first example of an episode being cut, or with an alternative version of a scene, was when Danny Walenska (who was married to Val at the time)

[Show spoiler]

The second example, was the ending of an episode from the following season. Linda Fairgate (played by Lar Park Lincoln) who had been married to Karen's son Michael, had been having a relationship with (I think) an architect called Brian (played by actor Philip Brown). Things turned bad, which ended with

[Show spoiler]

OceanBlue · 12-08-2020, 10:27 PM

Apologies if I've already posted about this in the thread, but a fellow poster reminded me of a third example of an episode of Knots being cut, something about Karen seeing a ghost. But I haven't seen or read anything about which episode this occurs in. When I saw CBS Drama's repeat run of the show, there was no mention of this ghost.

OceanBlue · 12-29-2021, 10:58 PM

Haven't yet listened to the podcast posted in the Dallas thread in the TV Shows sub-forum, and I might be answering my own question, but has the situation changed with Knots Landing? I thought there were (apparently) music clearance issues preventing further seasons being released (only the first two seasons getting physical media DVD releases in the States). The WAC released the third season of Falcon Crest over eight and a half years ago (as a manufactured-on-demand DVD release).

This is a very encouraging update about the Lorimar shows. Just hope it applies to physical media as well and not just streaming.

OceanBlue · 10-15-2024, 08:24 PM

I was reliably informed that it has nothing to do with music clearance issues why we haven't had any more seasons of Knots Landing on physical media (it was down to poor sales of the DVD sets apparently).

Yes it would be pricey (understandable given how many episodes there were), but I'm hoping the WAC announce next year a complete series Blu-ray boxset of Dallas and Knots Landing. The forty-fifth anniversary of when the very first episode of Dallas premiered on US TV (April last year) passed by with no announcement of a Blu-ray boxset. Knots Landing's very first episode (technically, the second pilot (the first pilot was the Dallas episode "Return Engagement") was first shown forty-five years ago this December (December 27th, 1979).

OceanBlue · 05-02-2025, 08:31 PM

Thought I'd post some comments on the recent sad news that actresses Lar Park Lincoln and Priscilla Pointer have passed away.

In terms of their television work, I know Lar Park Lincoln best for playing Linda Fairgate on Knots Landing around the early-nineties (they started off as a recurring guest star before joining the main cast later on). The character was a classic Abby-type character (I will add that

[Show spoiler]

Priscilla Pointer lived to a very good age (a few weeks away from their 101st birthday). Had many screen credits (including the original Carrie film and the David Lynch-directed Blue Velvet, but I know them best for playing Rebecca Wentworth (Cliff Barnes' mother) in the original Dallas series (prior to their first appearance on Dallas, they guest-starred in one Knots Landing episode (playing a different character).

I have seen Blue Velvet in full once (a one-off cinema screening), but I never spotted Priscilla Pointer in it. Their film credits also included A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors.

hagios · 05-02-2025, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OceanBlue

I was reliably informed that it has nothing to do with music clearance issues why we haven't had any more seasons of Knots Landing on physical media (it was down to poor sales of the DVD sets apparently).

Yes it would be pricey (understandable given how many episodes there were), but I'm hoping the WAC announce next year a complete series Blu-ray boxset of Dallas and Knots Landing. The forty-fifth anniversary of when the very first episode of Dallas premiered on US TV (April last year) passed by with no announcement of a Blu-ray boxset. Knots Landing's very first episode (technically, the second pilot (the first pilot was the Dallas episode "Return Engagement") was first shown forty-five years ago this December (December 27th, 1979).

Me too, I would enjoy/want blu-ray sets of Dallas/Knots Landing!

OceanBlue · 05-02-2025, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hagios

Me too, I would enjoy/want blu-ray sets of Dallas/Knots Landing!

I watched the second pilot late last December to help celebrate the anniversary (from the UK DVD release). I was reminded how good the show was (from the off it set out what it wanted to do). Some might see it as melodramatic (I didn't). I wanted to see Bobby Ewing appear in more of the episode, but I equally thought that as it went on with this re-watch I could see they didn't need to have him in a lot of the episode.

Patrick Duffy would appear again late on in Season 2 in "The Loudest Word", one of my favourite early episodes

[Show spoiler]

06-18-2020, 11:19 PM	#1
OceanBlue Blu-ray Baron Member since:Sep 2013 Location:Midlands, UK	Dallas (the original series) and Knots Landing Surprised there wasn't an existing thread for the original Dallas TV series and Knots Landing, being as the DVD releases were ages ago. It's a shame that the original Dallas was completed, but we only got the first two seasons of Knots Landing on DVD (it's apparently music clearance issues which has stopped the remaining twelve seasons of Knots from getting physical media releases).

10-15-2024, 08:24 PM	#10
OceanBlue Blu-ray Baron Member since:Sep 2013 Location:Midlands, UK	When the very first episode debuted on US TV I was reliably informed that it has nothing to do with music clearance issues why we haven't had any more seasons of Knots Landing on physical media (it was down to poor sales of the DVD sets apparently). Yes it would be pricey (understandable given how many episodes there were), but I'm hoping the WAC announce next year a complete series Blu-ray boxset of Dallas and Knots Landing. The forty-fifth anniversary of when the very first episode of Dallas premiered on US TV (April last year) passed by with no announcement of a Blu-ray boxset. Knots Landing's very first episode (technically, the second pilot (the first pilot was the Dallas episode "Return Engagement") was first shown forty-five years ago this December (December 27th, 1979).

05-02-2025, 08:31 PM	#11
OceanBlue Blu-ray Baron Member since:Sep 2013 Location:Midlands, UK	Lar Park Lincoln and Priscilla Pointer Thought I'd post some comments on the recent sad news that actresses Lar Park Lincoln and Priscilla Pointer have passed away. In terms of their television work, I know Lar Park Lincoln best for playing Linda Fairgate on Knots Landing around the early-nineties (they started off as a recurring guest star before joining the main cast later on). The character was a classic Abby-type character (I will add that [Show spoiler] Priscilla Pointer lived to a very good age (a few weeks away from their 101st birthday). Had many screen credits (including the original Carrie film and the David Lynch-directed Blue Velvet, but I know them best for playing Rebecca Wentworth (Cliff Barnes' mother) in the original Dallas series (prior to their first appearance on Dallas, they guest-starred in one Knots Landing episode (playing a different character). I have seen Blue Velvet in full once (a one-off cinema screening), but I never spotted Priscilla Pointer in it. Their film credits also included A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors.

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06-18-2020, 11:21 PM	#2
amccord Member Member since:Nov 2012 Location:STONE MOUNTAIN, GA	I was hoping flamingo road, falcon crest, Dallas, and knots landing would show up on Hbomax

06-19-2020, 09:10 PM	#3
OceanBlue Blu-ray Baron Member since:Sep 2013 Location:Midlands, UK	I've thought (and it was something I read elsewhere and now agree with) that the first five episodes of the original Dallas (which had a different Southfork) were a pilot for the series. But on DVD the seasons were incorrectly labelled. These first five episodes were called the first season. When the show started in the autumn of the same year, that season was called the second season on DVD (they were at a new Southfork, which was the one used for the remainder of the original show's thirteen year run). For the majority of the show (think it was just the last three seasons where they shot on location only in California and on studio sets in California (there were a handful of episodes though, towards the end of the 1988-89 season, where some exterior scenes were shot on location in Europe), around the first dozen or so episodes of the season, they shot exterior locations in Texas (with some or all of the interior scenes shot on studio sets). The rest of the season, they shot on location in California. The interior Southfork scenes I think were always shot on studio sets. Val and Gary Ewing debuted on Dallas first (technically they both played their characters for fourteen seasons, including when they were on Knots Landing), with Val I think appearing occasionly in the first season of Dallas (a different actor played Gary in a two-part episode of Dallas' first season, called "Reunion"). In Dallas' second season, the first pilot of Knots Landing aired (called "Return Engagement"). A new actor guest-starred as Gary Ewing (Ted Shackelford), and the rest is history. Knots Landing debuted shortly after that episode aired in the States, with what I think was it's second pilot (Bobby Ewing made a brief crossover appearance at the beginning of Knots Landing's first episode).

07-08-2020, 09:27 PM	#4
OceanBlue Blu-ray Baron Member since:Sep 2013 Location:Midlands, UK	Regarding the Dallas TV films, the only way you can get them on physical media DVD in the UK, is by buying the complete series boxset. However, if I remember correctly, they were released together in the States, separate from the series: Dallas: The Early Years Dallas: J.R. Returns and Dallas: War of the Ewings.

07-30-2020, 11:32 PM	#5
OceanBlue Blu-ray Baron Member since:Sep 2013 Location:Midlands, UK	I'd be interested to know what songs are in the third season of Knots Landing, as I don't think Lisa Hartman joined the show until the fourth season of the series. I'd forgotten about this until I was reminded in a reply in another discussion thread on this forum, that Betsy Palmer and Lar Park Lincoln were both on Knots around the same time (they've both appeared in the Friday the 13th film series, along with actor Terry Kiser (he guest-starred in one episode).

09-08-2020, 11:18 PM	#6
OceanBlue Blu-ray Baron Member since:Sep 2013 Location:Midlands, UK	A friend told me some news yesterday which I was gutted about, that actor Kevin Dobson has passed away. He's known for playing Crockett on the original Kojak series, but for me, I know him best for playing Mack McKenzie on the long-running drama series Knots Landing (my favourite TV series).

11-05-2020, 09:38 PM	#7
OceanBlue Blu-ray Baron Member since:Sep 2013 Location:Midlands, UK	There were a couple of examples of two different versions of an episode of Knots Landing (there was apparently a third example, but I can't think where it it could be (I'd read on a soap opera forum that Karen sees a ghost in an episode), both are from the later seasons. When BBC One first showed the series in the UK, it was (I think) on Saturday evenings. But it was dropped because of low ratings. A few years later, the series resumed in a weekday afternoon timeslot (original episodes were still airing in the States). I remember watching the later seasons, and we weren't that far behind the States. The first example of an episode being cut, or with an alternative version of a scene, was when Danny Walenska (who was married to Val at the time) [Show spoiler] The second example, was the ending of an episode from the following season. Linda Fairgate (played by Lar Park Lincoln) who had been married to Karen's son Michael, had been having a relationship with (I think) an architect called Brian (played by actor Philip Brown). Things turned bad, which ended with [Show spoiler]

12-08-2020, 10:27 PM	#8
OceanBlue Blu-ray Baron Member since:Sep 2013 Location:Midlands, UK	Apologies if I've already posted about this in the thread, but a fellow poster reminded me of a third example of an episode of Knots being cut, something about Karen seeing a ghost. But I haven't seen or read anything about which episode this occurs in. When I saw CBS Drama's repeat run of the show, there was no mention of this ghost.

12-29-2021, 10:58 PM	#9
OceanBlue Blu-ray Baron Member since:Sep 2013 Location:Midlands, UK	Haven't yet listened to the podcast posted in the Dallas thread in the TV Shows sub-forum, and I might be answering my own question, but has the situation changed with Knots Landing? I thought there were (apparently) music clearance issues preventing further seasons being released (only the first two seasons getting physical media DVD releases in the States). The WAC released the third season of Falcon Crest over eight and a half years ago (as a manufactured-on-demand DVD release). This is a very encouraging update about the Lorimar shows. Just hope it applies to physical media as well and not just streaming.

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