Need some opinions on which to buy... - Blu-ray Forum

greatdevastator · 01-22-2009, 08:54 PM

The Panasonic Viera TH-50PZ800U or the Pioneer Kuro PDP-5020FD

I'm looking to buy in the next couple of days and these are two I've researched a bit. If there are any other models between $1500 and $2000 that you'd recommend, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks in advance.

kpkelley · 01-22-2009, 09:00 PM

Get the Kuro.

ScarredLungs · 01-22-2009, 09:02 PM

Kuro

greatdevastator · 01-22-2009, 09:14 PM

Thanks guys, I was leaning towards the Kuro. Now are there any LCDs that would give the Kuro a run for its money? I haven't come across any, but I'm not an expert when it comes to TVs, but a few of my friends say go LCD. I prefer plasma, and I know there are a lot of things to take into account, but are there any out there?

joegs300 · 01-22-2009, 09:20 PM

kuro ftw

syk69 · 01-22-2009, 09:44 PM

if you can afford the kuro its the better tv. better 1080p/24 processing and way better contrast among other things.

Santeria · 01-23-2009, 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greatdevastator

Thanks guys, I was leaning towards the Kuro. Now are there any LCDs that would give the Kuro a run for its money? I haven't come across any, but I'm not an expert when it comes to TVs, but a few of my friends say go LCD. I prefer plasma, and I know there are a lot of things to take into account, but are there any out there?

my advice is since this forum is pretty plasma biased...
go check out the best sony xbr and compare it to a kuro instore.

kuro plasmas are one of the best if not the best displays out there.

greatdevastator · 01-24-2009, 07:01 AM

I went to Costco to pick the Kuro up tonight and walked down both aisles, but didn't see any Pioneer televisions and no boxes on the floor. I walked past two workers talking about the super bright whites and clarity of an Insignia TV, laughed inside and finally asked one of them if they carried the Kuro.

He said they only carried it online now because it's double the price of most TVs there and said it looked nowhere near as good as the other sets. He said they stopped carrying it in stores a little while back due to poor sales.

I was quite annoyed with his lack of knowledge, and annoyed that I have to order it online now.

greatdevastator · 01-23-2009, 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strannix136

As I said, I'm not an expert.

Thanks for the unnecessary amount of smilies.

ManUtd · 01-23-2009, 03:22 AM

No doubt get the Kuro.

lghaze42 · 02-26-2009, 11:27 PM

The Kuro may have a little deeper blacks but the Panny has better color and the THX mode is awesome.

lojack1976 · 02-27-2009, 12:05 AM

Personally, I'd skip both and wait for the new Panny's coming out next month. According to Panasonic the 24p issues have been corrected and the native contrast levels are much better. I don't take stock in dynamic contrast ratios with any tv. I learned that from my experience with my LG. When Panasonic released the the 800u last year Cnet said it outperformed the Kuro's that were out with the Kuro having slightly deeper blacks that were difficult to discern side by side. Color accuracy was what made the Panny stand out. It also had better detail in darker scenes. Of course this was before Pioneer released last year's models which took the crown back with their even deeper blacks and flicker free 24p. My point is that Panasonic has made strides every year, so I expect the new models to surpass what's out right now especially since they collaborated with Pioneer for their latest technology. They now have infinite black panels and the price points are awesome. Just something to consider.

01-22-2009, 08:54 PM	#1
greatdevastator Senior Member Member since:May 2008 Location:Shadow Moses Blu-ray collection:542 Trading Score:30	Need some opinions on which to buy... The Panasonic Viera TH-50PZ800U or the Pioneer Kuro PDP-5020FD I'm looking to buy in the next couple of days and these are two I've researched a bit. If there are any other models between $1500 and $2000 that you'd recommend, I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

01-22-2009, 09:14 PM	#4
greatdevastator Senior Member Member since:May 2008 Location:Shadow Moses Blu-ray collection:542 Trading Score:30	Thanks guys, I was leaning towards the Kuro. Now are there any LCDs that would give the Kuro a run for its money? I haven't come across any, but I'm not an expert when it comes to TVs, but a few of my friends say go LCD. I prefer plasma, and I know there are a lot of things to take into account, but are there any out there? Last edited by greatdevastator; 01-22-2009 at 09:20 PM.

01-24-2009, 07:01 AM	#8
greatdevastator Senior Member Member since:May 2008 Location:Shadow Moses Blu-ray collection:542 Trading Score:30	I went to Costco to pick the Kuro up tonight and walked down both aisles, but didn't see any Pioneer televisions and no boxes on the floor. I walked past two workers talking about the super bright whites and clarity of an Insignia TV, laughed inside and finally asked one of them if they carried the Kuro. He said they only carried it online now because it's double the price of most TVs there and said it looked nowhere near as good as the other sets. He said they stopped carrying it in stores a little while back due to poor sales. I was quite annoyed with his lack of knowledge, and annoyed that I have to order it online now. Last edited by greatdevastator; 01-24-2009 at 07:07 AM.

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01-22-2009, 09:00 PM	#2
kpkelley Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Framingham, MA 4K collection:385 Blu-ray collection:2478 Digital collection:113 Blu-ray reviews: 152	Get the Kuro.

01-22-2009, 09:02 PM	#3
ScarredLungs Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Utah 4K collection:65 Blu-ray collection:1433 Prime collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:4	Kuro

01-22-2009, 09:20 PM	#5
joegs300 Special Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:West Los Angeles, CA Home Theater Gallery:19 Trading Score:45	kuro ftw

01-22-2009, 09:44 PM	#6
syk69 Member Member since:Feb 2008 Blu-ray collection:43	if you can afford the kuro its the better tv. better 1080p/24 processing and way better contrast among other things.

01-23-2009, 03:22 AM	#10
ManUtd Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:In my HT Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:15 Blu-ray collection:829 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:5	No doubt get the Kuro.

02-26-2009, 11:27 PM	#11
lghaze42 Senior Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Princeton West Virginia Home Theater Gallery:23	The Kuro may have a little deeper blacks but the Panny has better color and the THX mode is awesome.

02-27-2009, 12:05 AM	#12
lojack1976 Blu-ray Guru Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Aug 2008 Location:7 Cities, VA Home Theater Gallery:62 Blu-ray collection:203	Personally, I'd skip both and wait for the new Panny's coming out next month. According to Panasonic the 24p issues have been corrected and the native contrast levels are much better. I don't take stock in dynamic contrast ratios with any tv. I learned that from my experience with my LG. When Panasonic released the the 800u last year Cnet said it outperformed the Kuro's that were out with the Kuro having slightly deeper blacks that were difficult to discern side by side. Color accuracy was what made the Panny stand out. It also had better detail in darker scenes. Of course this was before Pioneer released last year's models which took the crown back with their even deeper blacks and flicker free 24p. My point is that Panasonic has made strides every year, so I expect the new models to surpass what's out right now especially since they collaborated with Pioneer for their latest technology. They now have infinite black panels and the price points are awesome. Just something to consider.

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