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Old 01-28-2009, 09:06 PM   #1
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Although many experts are predicting that the ability to "rent" or buy movies via the Internet will result in the demise of DVDs and Blu-ray discs, new research by Media Central Gfk International indicates that Blu-ray sales alone are expected to increase 150 percent this year to $2.9 billion. At the same time, cable video-on-demand and broadband will generate only $1.5 billion in revenue, the study indicated. The problem, experts agreed, is inherent in broadband services -- the virtual impossibility of delivering 1080p high-definition content to customers given the limitations of the Internet. "The bandwidth required to stream any type of HD video is way beyond what most households have," Michael Paxton, an analyst with In-State Scottsdale, Az told Home Media magazine.

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Old 01-28-2009, 09:15 PM   #2
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Old 01-28-2009, 09:35 PM   #3
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Digital distribution may well spell the end of rentals but hopefully the option to own the physical media will always be there.
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Old 01-28-2009, 09:40 PM   #4
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You will never catch me DL HiDef movies to watch. Blu-ray or nothing!
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Old 01-28-2009, 09:44 PM   #5
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Blu-ray Disc, Television, and Download On-Demand will always be the best quality.

The only way that wll change is when 10mb+ DSL/Cable lines drop to reasonable rates for consumers. As it stands now, streaming video services like NetFlix can only offer 720i quality video. Regardless of what your TV says it is, that is the highest quality it can be. On top of that, you get basic stereo sound from the HD download. To even stream 1080p quality video with 5.1 mpeg sound would take a lot of bandwith.

My 1.5mbs connection tops out at 1.32mbs and all I get is near DVD quality video with NetFlix. However, with my PS3...I get a constant 1080p HD image with incredible surround sound.
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Old 01-28-2009, 09:51 PM   #6
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Read this this morning:

Netflix: What Recession?
Streaming successes surprise even Netflix...
While many companies this week were busy announcing layoffs, Netflix indicated a 45% jump in earnings. The company's already successful DVD rental service was buoyed by their recent broadband video partnerships, which allow the carrier to offer streaming services via Xbox 360, Roku, TiVO or BluRay players by both LG and Samsung. In a conference call with analysts, Netflix CEO Reed Hastings stated, not too surprisingly, those who use broadband streaming rent fewer physical disks. That spells trouble ultimately for physical media -- though Hastings says physical disk rentals still won't peak until at least 2013.

Source: http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/N...cession-100476

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Old 01-28-2009, 11:34 PM   #7
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There is just something about having the physical copy of a movie that I like, as a collector. Going to my rack to choose a movie opposed double clicking an icon... I don't know, that just doesn't sound right to me.

I hope blu-ray continues to grow and thrive. I dread the day when new movies only come as downloads.
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Old 01-28-2009, 11:36 PM   #8
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There is just something about having the physical copy of a movie that I like, as a collector. Going to my rack to choose a movie opposed double clicking an icon... I don't know, that just doesn't sound right to me.

I hope blu-ray continues to grow and thrive. I dread the day when new movies only come as downloads.
I completely agree with you! I would much rather have something physically in my hands, rather than a file on my computer.
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Old 01-28-2009, 11:42 PM   #9
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I agree with all of you guys as I get two free "HD" movies a month through work, but there is nothing, and I repeat NOTHING that's tops Blu-ray! It's convienent though if there's a movie that's new I can see it, but when it comes down to the come down Blu-ray destroys it hands down. I love it when customers think they are watching "HD" movies from their PC and think it's due to 15.0+ mbs per second....priceless!
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Old 01-29-2009, 01:04 AM   #10
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Blu-ray still has a good 5-6 years ahead of it. Internet speeds in MANY countries are not sufficient, and we've all found out there are impediments to the progress of those internet speeds (monopoly companies like Telstra in Australia, greedy companies not willing to upgrade infrastructure they profit from). But imo around 2013-2014 we will be downloading ALL content, it will be unusual for anyone to get a hardcopy of something they can stream off the net.
No offense, but I really do hope that you're way off on your time line.
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Blu Ray is going to do fine in the future. People feel as though they get more for there buck when buying hard media. Plus, who wants to sit at their computer and watch a 2 hour movie?
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Old 01-29-2009, 01:07 AM   #12
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Blu Ray is going to do fine in the future. People feel as though they get more for there buck when buying hard media. Plus, who wants to sit at their computer and watch a 2 hour movie?
Well I don't think we're talking 15" monitors and in an office setting..
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Old 01-29-2009, 01:16 AM   #13
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Well I don't think we're talking 15" monitors and in an office setting..
I have a 24 inch, 1080p Samsung monitor and it gives off much better PQ then my projector does. But what I am trying to say is that the average person doesn't have an internet connection to their TV or Home theater.
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Old 01-29-2009, 01:20 AM   #14
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Well it's just a guesstimate

It's like the slow death of newspapers. 8 years ago they were still making money, now the internet is crushing them - the only successful newspapers will be the ones with a massive online prescence, but it's a SLOW death.

TV is also under threat from the internet, many young people don't watch the TV device anymore, they stream TV via the net, so they can chat/browse while watching it or they download it and stream it through their PS 3.

The death of physical mediums will also be a slow death, but the younger generation don't feel the need to own physical media now like we used to (I'm 30). I mean my younger relatives download direct to their MP3 device, they own like 5-10 CDs, but thousands of MP3s. They watch TV shows, but on their laptops, streamed or downloaded.

Regarding the timeline, it's vastly different per country of course. I mean in Japan you can already download content with incredibly high quality easily. In the US and some european countries, not so easily. In Australia it's years off.
I hear ya. We're slow proceeding into what the humans are like in WALL*E.
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Old 01-29-2009, 01:21 AM   #15
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I have 16mbps service soon, to be 22mbps.
Comcast has a monthly "soft" cap of 250GB.

Simple math tells us that they will not like it if I started downloading BD quality videos - if any were offered.
Rental downloads - expire.
Purchases are expensive and are at the mercy of your HDD not failing.
Some downloads might allow burning... never looked into it.
From what info I have gathered, most of the downloads are less-than DVD quality.

Uhm... no thanks.
Until/if ever, something better happens along(in my lifetime), we will see.

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I have a 24 inch, 1080p Samsung monitor and it gives off much better PQ then my projector does. But what I am trying to say is that the average person doesn't have an internet connection to their TV or Home theater.
Right, but with today's TVs now coming with at least an option to be able to be hooked up to PC/internet, I think it's safe to assume that things are slowly creeping in that direction.
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I have 16mbps service soon, to be 22mbps.
Comcast has a monthly "soft" cap of 250GB.

Simple math tells us that they will not like it if I started downloading BD quality videos - if any were offered.
Rental downloads - expire.
Purchases are expensive and are at the mercy of your HDD not failing.
Some downloads might allow burning... never looked into it.
From what info I have gathered, most of the downloads are less-than DVD quality.

Uhm... no thanks.
Until/if ever, something better happens along(in my lifetime), we will see.

Hi! I'm David and I'm a Blu user!
Hi David. Now who wants to go next? Come on don't be shy. You can trust us.

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Old 01-29-2009, 01:43 AM   #18
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Hi David. Now who wants to go next? Come on don't be shy. You can trust us.
LOL!
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Old 01-29-2009, 01:46 AM   #19
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I completely agree with you! I would much rather have something physically in my hands, rather than a file on my computer.
I double agree! It's more geek friendly
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Comparing blu and downloads is like comparing apples and oranges ,two totally different venues.
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