Onkyo retracting HD-DVD exclusive support - Blu-ray Forum

hyperdine · 05-22-2007, 12:26 AM

...and the hits just keep on coming...

http://supermodel.vip.engadgethd.com...nd-combo-play/

Rup_Muk · 05-22-2007, 12:49 AM

Good news!

Sound like Onkyo has seen the [blu] light!!!

Deane Johnson · 05-22-2007, 01:06 AM

It certainly wouldn't take a group of rocket scientists to figure out that Onkyo should not be developing an HD-DVD player. I'm surprised it took them this long to realize that.

jubaiweaponx · 05-22-2007, 01:17 AM

I love it ,way to finally go in the right direction ,now if we can get more receivers with HDMI 1.3 hahah and good news for bd is bad news for hddvd

KenThompson · 05-22-2007, 02:05 AM

Their player would have been expensive and that flys in the face of the cheap HD Dead crowd. Aything over $500 and they would scream bloody murder.

Jack Torrance · 05-22-2007, 02:10 AM

It's been a while since I've seen anyone say this but... GREAT news for hd-dvd!!!

Rob Tomlin · 05-22-2007, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KenThompson

Their player would have been expensive and that flys in the face of the cheap HD Dead crowd. Aything over $500 and they would scream bloody murder.

No kidding!

Rolo · 05-22-2007, 04:20 AM

If they decide to make a player, it'll be interesting to see if it's made for the new receivers. They should be able to pass DTS MA bitstream to the reciever so you can apply different sound fields if you wish. (or at least an onboard DTS MA decoder to pass via pcm)

hmurchison · 05-26-2007, 09:40 PM

There's a market for a Combo player with DVD-Audio and SACD support IMO.

Price for this device wouldn't be quite so sensitive. I'd love to see

Blu-ray/HD DVD
SACD/DVD-Audio
Divx support
Networking
SATA drive for persistent storage.

THIS would be worth $1299! Onkyo has to date done an excellent job with delivering combo players and their new AVR support HDMI-CEC for device control so the more functions they can put into one player the better usability is for the audio/video system.

1234abcd · 05-26-2007, 11:46 PM

I think it's smart if they make a dual format player. If combos are to be the future then they'll be among the first to get started. Besides, they can charge more and won't have to compete directly with Toshiba and even lower priced players that could emerge later from China.

dvda-sacd · 05-27-2007, 12:03 AM

In my opinion, two formats are unnecessary and inconvenient. This is not like DVD-Audio (PCM) vs. Super Audio CD (DSD). We don't need two formats, so I don't want combos to be the future.

JTK · 05-27-2007, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvda-sacd

In my opinion, two formats are unnecessary and inconvenient. This is not like DVD-Audio (PCM) vs. Super Audio CD (DSD). We don't need two formats, so I don't want combos to be the future.

Exactly.

Not surprising that HD-DVD supporters in this thread would feel otherwise, since it's really the only way "their" beloved format can ever survive.

PeterTHX · 05-27-2007, 04:02 AM

Quote:

Not surprising that HD-DVD supporters in this thread would feel otherwise, since it's really the only way "their" beloved format can ever survive.

I wonder if I'd need any fingers to count how many BD people think things like combo players and TotalHD discs are a good idea.

Rob Tomlin · 05-27-2007, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvda-sacd

In my opinion, two formats are unnecessary and inconvenient. This is not like DVD-Audio (PCM) vs. Super Audio CD (DSD). We don't need two formats, so I don't want combos to be the future.

Bingo!

I also agree with the statement that only HD-DVD supporters would see this as a good idea......

HDTV1080P · 05-27-2007, 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruceames

I think it's smart if they make a dual format player. If combos are to be the future then they'll be among the first to get started. Besides, they can charge more and won't have to compete directly with Toshiba and even lower priced players that could emerge later from China.

The better solution would be for Universal Studios to release in BLU-RAY then there is no market or need for combo players. Now if Universal Studios never did release in BLU-RAY then there is a market for combo players for movie collectors.

goodstuff · 05-27-2007, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

I wonder if I'd need any fingers to count how many BD people think things like combo players and TotalHD discs are a good idea.

JTK · 05-27-2007, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

I wonder if I'd need any fingers to count how many BD people think things like combo players and TotalHD discs are a good idea.

All I need is one finger. Guess which one?

GTP · 05-27-2007, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hmurchison

There's a market for a Combo player with DVD-Audio and SACD support IMO.

Price for this device wouldn't be quite so sensitive. I'd love to see

Blu-ray/HD DVD
SACD/DVD-Audio
Divx support
Networking
SATA drive for persistent storage.

THIS would be worth $1299! Onkyo has to date done an excellent job with delivering combo players and their new AVR support HDMI-CEC for device control so the more functions they can put into one player the better usability is for the audio/video system.

Yes there is a nitchie market....its doomed to nitchieville....just like universal players have never sold ziltch to the masses.

Well over 15 million sa-cd players out there with many being based on a Universal player.
How many do your freinds and neihbors own?
How many people do we even know that has a clue to what SA-CD/ DVD-A is?

Seeings how stand alone HD players from both formats haven't even put a dent in the sa-cd player numbers yet....puts things in proper pespective.

The only way to have any chance at eventually competing with sd dvd sales for HD optical...is to have only one format for the masses to choose from.
Anything else is 100% doomed to nitchie status at best.

So only people who are interested in downloads being the future should be supporting both formats...and the rest of us who see things for what the are....support only BD.

GoldenRedux · 05-27-2007, 09:31 PM

Folks, Onkyo won't be the last CE manufacturer to come to their senses. Just look at the numbers in favour of Blu-ray for sales, studio support and CE support. If they are thinking of putting out a combo player, all they need to do is look at the abysmal LG sales numbers to help them make the right decision. Blu-ray or the highway folks. Combos are for HD DVD supporters who are struggling to come to terms with having chosen the wrong format.

theknub · 05-28-2007, 04:45 AM

ask samsung how a combo may do

05-22-2007, 12:26 AM	#1
hyperdine Senior Member Member since:Sep 2006	Onkyo retracting HD-DVD exclusive support ...and the hits just keep on coming... http://supermodel.vip.engadgethd.com...nd-combo-play/

05-22-2007, 01:17 AM	#4
jubaiweaponx Special Member Member since:Mar 2007 Location:collingdale,pa Blu-ray collection:304	what can I say I love it ,way to finally go in the right direction ,now if we can get more receivers with HDMI 1.3 hahah and good news for bd is bad news for hddvd

05-27-2007, 12:03 AM	#11
dvda-sacd Member Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Spain	Dual format players? In my opinion, two formats are unnecessary and inconvenient. This is not like DVD-Audio (PCM) vs. Super Audio CD (DSD). We don't need two formats, so I don't want combos to be the future.

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05-22-2007, 12:49 AM	#2
Rup_Muk Expert Member Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray collection:136 Blu-ray reviews:24 Trading Score:8	Good news! Sound like Onkyo has seen the [blu] light!!!

05-22-2007, 01:06 AM	#3
Deane Johnson Active Member Member since:Nov 2006 Location:Omaha, NE	It certainly wouldn't take a group of rocket scientists to figure out that Onkyo should not be developing an HD-DVD player. I'm surprised it took them this long to realize that.

05-22-2007, 02:05 AM	#5
KenThompson Power Member Member since:Sep 2006 Location:B.C. Canada	Their player would have been expensive and that flys in the face of the cheap HD Dead crowd. Aything over $500 and they would scream bloody murder.

05-22-2007, 02:10 AM	#6
Jack Torrance Special Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Overlook Hotel Blu-ray reviews:1	It's been a while since I've seen anyone say this but... GREAT news for hd-dvd!!!

05-22-2007, 04:20 AM	#8
Rolo Member Member since:Dec 2006 Location:50th State	If they decide to make a player, it'll be interesting to see if it's made for the new receivers. They should be able to pass DTS MA bitstream to the reciever so you can apply different sound fields if you wish. (or at least an onboard DTS MA decoder to pass via pcm)

05-26-2007, 09:40 PM	#9
hmurchison Banned Member since:Aug 2004 Location:Seaattle	There's a market for a Combo player with DVD-Audio and SACD support IMO. Price for this device wouldn't be quite so sensitive. I'd love to see Blu-ray/HD DVD SACD/DVD-Audio Divx support Networking SATA drive for persistent storage. THIS would be worth $1299! Onkyo has to date done an excellent job with delivering combo players and their new AVR support HDMI-CEC for device control so the more functions they can put into one player the better usability is for the audio/video system.

05-26-2007, 11:46 PM	#10
1234abcd Banned Member since:Feb 2007 Location:San Rafael, CA	I think it's smart if they make a dual format player. If combos are to be the future then they'll be among the first to get started. Besides, they can charge more and won't have to compete directly with Toshiba and even lower priced players that could emerge later from China.

05-27-2007, 09:31 PM	#19
GoldenRedux Power Member Member since:Sep 2006 Blu-ray reviews:1	Folks, Onkyo won't be the last CE manufacturer to come to their senses. Just look at the numbers in favour of Blu-ray for sales, studio support and CE support. If they are thinking of putting out a combo player, all they need to do is look at the abysmal LG sales numbers to help them make the right decision. Blu-ray or the highway folks. Combos are for HD DVD supporters who are struggling to come to terms with having chosen the wrong format.

05-28-2007, 04:45 AM	#20
theknub Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2006	ask samsung how a combo may do

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