NOOOO!!!(terminator)

[PH3AR]

I just saw the new trailer for Terminator:Salvation and it said it was PG-13 i know there were other threads saying it may be but now its offcial i am really sad and i dont even know if i want to see this movie anymore!

[ScarredLungs]

It is not going to be a terrible movie due to the fact it is PG-13.

[funnymanbing]

Originally Posted by cvm

It is not going to be a terrible movie due to the fact it is PG-13.

Yeah, but it's Terminator. It should be rated R. I'll pass.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by funnymanbing

Yeah, but it's Terminator. It should be rated R. I'll pass.

Why should it be rated R? The original certainly wouldn't be R today.

I'd rather they just make the best movie possible, rather than simply adding in additional foul language, gore, and gratuitous nudity just to pad the film up for an R rating. Who cares what the rating is.

[funnymanbing]

Originally Posted by Beast

Why should it be rated R? The original certainly wouldn't be R today.

I'd rather they just make the best movie possible, rather than simply adding in additional foul language, gore, and gratuitous nudity just to pad the film up for an R rating. Who cares what the rating is.

I agree that they should make the best movie possible, but studios want movies to be PG-13 just so teenagers can go see it. I think Terminator is a movie that should be rated R, so if anything they are cutting stuff to snag a PG-13 rating, not adding gratuitously for an R. Just a personal opinion.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by funnymanbing

I agree that they should make the best movie possible, but studios want movies to be PG-13 just so teenagers can go see it. I think Terminator is a movie that should be rated R, so if anything they are cutting stuff to snag a PG-13 rating, not adding gratuitously for an R. Just a personal opinion.

Which makes perfect sense. After all, the rating system isn't as strict as it used to be.

The film doesn't need to be Rated R, and you have no clue if anything was cut to get a PG-13.

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by funnymanbing

I agree that they should make the best movie possible, but studios want movies to be PG-13 just so teenagers can go see it. I think Terminator is a movie that should be rated R, so if anything they are cutting stuff to snag a PG-13 rating, not adding gratuitously for an R. Just a personal opinion.

Action does not necessitate an R rating. This is a sci-fi action picture. It does not necessarily need gore, heavy cursing, sexuality, or nudity, and it is those things that would give it an R rating. In addition, while logically speaking, machines should be able to decimate the humans (which would require gore), more likely would be that the film will show the humans holding their own against the machines, meaning less violence against humans and more violence against machines.

And it's true. If they DID cut things to get a PG13, you'll never know until the home video release when they do an unrated cut, and at that point, you'll have gotten what you wanted in the first place anyway. Who cares? I'm certainly not going into seeing the picture knowing they cut things out, and you shouldn't make that assumption either (nor should you assume as much when walking out; I was 95% sure TDK was going to have an R rated home video release and it didn't happen).

Originally Posted by DigitalfreakNYC

There is a certain realistic freedom that comes with an R rating. It's not worrying about barriers.

This is wrong. More often than not, a NC-17 picture is rated so because of sexuality, but it's entirely possible to get it for language or violence. This is because there is no defined rules of rating and it all depends on what the people who rate it feel like. There's an excellent documentary called "This Film is Not Yet Rated". I suggest you folks who aren't familiar with the MPAA rating system check it out.

Originally Posted by cvm

I agree. Many older "R" movies, if made the same today, would not be rated R, they would be PG-13. Content needs more attention then the actual rating of a movie. There are some R rated movies that are good, some are crappy. Same with PG-13 etc. AS times change, so do ratings.

As a related connection: plenty of movies originally rated X (back when X was a designation offered by the MPAA) have since been re-rated as R without changes. Noteworthy examples here are A Clockwork Orange and Midnight Cowboy.

[DigitalfreakNYC]

Originally Posted by Beast

Why should it be rated R? The original certainly wouldn't be R today.

I'd rather they just make the best movie possible, rather than simply adding in additional foul language, gore, and gratuitous nudity just to pad the film up for an R rating. Who cares what the rating is.

This is the terminator. I don't expect gratuitous nudity but I DO expect language and gore, just like Die Hard. Otherwise, it just feels like the movie is holding back the whole time.

There is a certain realistic freedom that comes with an R rating. It's not worrying about barriers.

[Astalder]

Having watched the Sarah Connor chronicles there is absolutely no good reason this movie needs to be R, the studio would be moronic to intentionally make it so just to satisfy these crazy people that think if an 80's movie was R the 00's version should be.

[DetroitSportsFan]

I'm just hoping for 2 things.

1. The uncut version appears on Blu. So far, it looks like a shot of a topless woman has been cut. If that's all that was cut, fine. But if violence or language was cut, I want to see it on the Blu.

2. It's better than the TV show (which shouldn't be difficult).

[Beast]

Originally Posted by DigitalfreakNYC

This is the terminator. I don't expect gratuitous nudity but I DO expect language and gore, just like Die Hard. Otherwise, it just feels like the movie is holding back the whole time.

There is a certain realistic freedom that comes with an R rating. It's not worrying about barriers.

Well, then I hope you don't watch the other Terminator films. Especially the original.

Cause they're hardly briming over with gore and language.

[Gamma_Winstead]

Originally Posted by Beast

Why should it be rated R? The original certainly wouldn't be R today.

yes it would.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by gamma626

yes it would.

No, it wouldn't. There's nothing in the original Terminator worthy of an R.

[Steve]

Originally Posted by Beast

Why should it be rated R? The original certainly wouldn't be R today.

I'd rather they just make the best movie possible, rather than simply adding in additional foul language, gore, and gratuitous nudity just to pad the film up for an R rating. Who cares what the rating is.

Originally Posted by gamma626

yes it would.

I agree. I think the original would most definitely be rated R if it came out today. There is plenty of violence, profanity, various nude scenes, and oh yeah, the scene where the Terminator rips a guys heart out. I can think of other movies that have come out in the last few years without all those ingredients that have still gotten an R rating.

Originally Posted by Sussudio

seriously? i mean that's your opinion so whatev, but give the guy a break. i certainly respect him for trying to branch out and try different things instead of staying with charlies angles-type movies. christian bale obviously saw something in him and that aside i dont see how it's so hard to give this guy at the very least a chance. as for the rating, i'm sorry but a movie is not made by it's rating. the story and the acting are what really counts imo--not the amount of violence/nudity/profanity/etc--and whatever rating is slapped on as a result is trivial to me. who...cares...what it's rated

+1.

[The Mr Safety]

But when we talk about Terminator, the whole war with the Machines is the most violent part because they are killing all the humans that are left. I'm pretty sure alot of people would be cussing so much and all the violence should be really bloody. This movie should be R but the studios want it to be "family friendly" and they want to sell some kids action figures. God, these people should already be rich that make these movies. Give the fans what they want you money grubbing sons of b*tches.

[ScarredLungs]

Originally Posted by Beast

Why should it be rated R? The original certainly wouldn't be R today.

I'd rather they just make the best movie possible, rather than simply adding in additional foul language, gore, and gratuitous nudity just to pad the film up for an R rating. Who cares what the rating is.

I agree. Many older "R" movies, if made the same today, would not be rated R, they would be PG-13. Content needs more attention then the actual rating of a movie. There are some R rated movies that are good, some are crappy. Same with PG-13 etc. AS times change, so do ratings.

[andyman1970]

Originally Posted by Beast

Why should it be rated R? The original certainly wouldn't be R today.

I'd rather they just make the best movie possible, rather than simply adding in additional foul language, gore, and gratuitous nudity just to pad the film up for an R rating. Who cares what the rating is.

Wow. When's the last time you've seen these movies? Other then network or cable TV?

Originally Posted by funnymanbing

I'll pass because it's not directed by James Cameron.

This is probably the most logical reason for not going to see the movie so far.

Originally Posted by cvm

I agree. Many older "R" movies, if made the same today, would not be rated R, they would be PG-13. Content needs more attention then the actual rating of a movie. There are some R rated movies that are good, some are crappy. Same with PG-13 etc. AS times change, so do ratings.

This would not be true of the Terminator movies though. In fact I only know of one movie that has ever had it's original rating changed and that's A Clockwork Orange. It was originally rated X in the early 70's then in the 80's the MPAA changed it to R.

[Grumpz]

Originally Posted by Beast

Why should it be rated R? The original certainly wouldn't be R today.

I'd rather they just make the best movie possible, rather than simply adding in additional foul language, gore, and gratuitous nudity just to pad the film up for an R rating. Who cares what the rating is.

Wait a sec, I've only seen Terminator a handful of times, but I'm sure the dreaded "F" word is in it no less than 3 times.

A dude gets his heart ripped out.

A Cyborg cuts his own eye out and performs sugery on his arm.

There's nudity.

There's graphic and not so graphic violance.

How the heck can you say this wouldn't be rate R?

Edit: Crap, someone beat to the punch! The post previous is a bit more detailed.

[Diesel]

the two original terminators would definitely still be R today
just because of the amount of F words, ignoring everything else

T2 would be a soft R imo though
the nudity in the film wouldnt warrant it (butt shot is all if i recall correctly)
the violence is definitely not over the top/gorey
but certain killings could help edge toward the R rating a little, like the step-father death, just for the visual of seeing that
that is the only killing i remember that was actually graphic
and the language (imdb lists about 18 f words) would get it an automatic R still today

you change a small amount of things, like dropping all but 1-3 Fwords and make the step-father death a little less gruesome and T2 could conceivably be pg-13 today, albeit the hardest pg-13 i can think of, but pg-13 nonetheless

the greatness of the movie is still very much intact in that altered version, its just not R anymore

now, i'm not saying that i would want those changes made nor would i hate it if they were, i'm just saying that T2 is closer to pg-13 today than people realize

[jk1138]

Originally Posted by Beast

Why should it be rated R? The original certainly wouldn't be R today.

I'd rather they just make the best movie possible, rather than simply adding in additional foul language, gore, and gratuitous nudity just to pad the film up for an R rating. Who cares what the rating is.

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