Apple's Leopard Sneak Peek

[marzetta7]

Ahh, tis a thing of beauty...

http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/

If they come out with a gloss black high-def (Blu-ray drive built in) iMac in October with Leopard...I'm sellin my current iMac and gettin on board!

[Josh]

Very Nice!

[Aaron]

Nice. I also noticed that Apple did some mods to their website. It looks nicer.

[Shadowself]

I was expecting true screen resolution independence as a key feature of Mac OS X 10.5. In conjunction with this I was expecting higher resolution/higher density (higher ppi) monitors.

Seems I'll be waiting for the next iteration.

Oh well.

[marzetta7]

Originally Posted by Shadowself

I was expecting true screen resolution independence as a key feature of Mac OS X 10.5. In conjunction with this I was expecting higher resolution/higher density (higher ppi) monitors.

Seems I'll be waiting for the next iteration.

Oh well.

Maybe their holding it close to vest until the build is final in October? There is always hope!

[Shadowself]

Originally Posted by marzetta7

Maybe their holding it close to vest until the build is final in October? There is always hope!

One can only hope.

[Footloose301]

For those of you with Apple. I'm going to buy a new notebook and exercising the idea of the 17" 1080HD Gloss screen with 4GB RAM, and 160GB HDD7400RPM.... will I be able to just download Leopard and use that or not? Or is it like moving from Windows 98 to Windows XP? How easy is it to upgrade the OS.

[IamNhobdy]

Originally Posted by Footloose301

For those of you with Apple. I'm going to buy a new notebook and exercising the idea of the 17" 1080HD Gloss screen with 4GB RAM, and 160GB HDD7400RPM.... will I be able to just download Leopard and use that or not? Or is it like moving from Windows 98 to Windows XP? How easy is it to upgrade the OS.

if you haven't bouth it yet....wait until October and Leopard will shipp in all computers free...not to mention there may be a Blu-ray drive option by then.

and it's a 7200rpm HD....not 7400.

Mac os updates are simple. If you download your copy of leopard, just follow the insta instructions. One thing mac has right is making things easy enough for every one. They're also helpfull if you need to transfer stuff from PC to Mac.

[Shadowself]

Originally Posted by Footloose301

For those of you with Apple. I'm going to buy a new notebook and exercising the idea of the 17" 1080HD Gloss screen with 4GB RAM, and 160GB HDD7400RPM.... will I be able to just download Leopard and use that or not? Or is it like moving from Windows 98 to Windows XP? How easy is it to upgrade the OS.

Moving from Mac OS X 10.4.x to 10.5 will be much, much easier than moving from 98 to XP or moving from XP to Vista, if past transitions are any indication.

I've taken a single (now old) box from 10.1 to 10.2 to 10.3 to 10.4 (now running the latest update on 10.4) and have not had to reinstall anything on it -- and it has CAD, Adobe's suite, MS-Office (did a major update on that too with no problems), and various other specialty programs. (I have other boxes too, but none have gone through that extreme range of upgrades. Also my work typically starts with a box at an engineers desk and it often ends up at a secretary's desk 3-5 years later running newer versions of the OS and apps. Rarely do we do a complete wipe and reinstall when doing this.)

Are problems possible? Yes. But they are tipically rarer than with the MS OS upgrades. Just be sure to do a 100% mirror backup of your system before you upgrade and no matter what happens your safe.

With regard to your choice of system just one comment: be sure you want the glossy screen. Glossy screens give the apearance of "richer colors" and such -- and many people prefer them, but if you often are going to use it in a high ambient light environment (like outdoors) the reflections off the glossy screen might become annoying and induce more eye strain.

[monkeytap]

Originally Posted by IamNhobdy

if you haven't bouth it yet....wait until October and Leopard will shipp in all computers free...not to mention there may be a Blu-ray drive option by then.

and it's a 7200rpm HD....not 7400.

Mac os updates are simple. If you download your copy of leopard, just follow the insta instructions. One thing mac has right is making things easy enough for every one. They're also helpfull if you need to transfer stuff from PC to Mac.

man, ive been waiting them to announce the blu ray option for a while. no mention of blu ray in the WWDC keynote. :-( I guess I will be waiting till october for leopard anyways, but whats the delay?

[Shin-Ra]

Blu-ray support in the OS really needs to be paired with new hardware announcements which WWDC wasn't about.

Footloose - Mac OS can only be installed on a Apple laptop, I wasn't sure if you were aware of that yet.

The only change I'm not so impressed with in Leopard is the translucent menu bar - it just looks awkward and it's not exactly an interesting visual effect now. I'd probably make it opaque unless there's a selection of new effects available by the time it ships.

[Footloose301]

[QUOTE=Shin-Ra;108037]

Footloose - Mac OS can only be installed on a Apple laptop, I wasn't sure if you were aware of that yet.

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yeah i know. right now i've got a 3yr old HP Laptop that was $2k and top of the line at the time, but i can't stand MS. Definetly going to Apple.

[Footloose301]

Originally Posted by Shadowself

Moving from Mac OS X 10.4.x to 10.5 will be much, much easier than moving from 98 to XP or moving from XP to Vista, if past transitions are any indication.

I've taken a single (now old) box from 10.1 to 10.2 to 10.3 to 10.4 (now running the latest update on 10.4) and have not had to reinstall anything on it -- and it has CAD, Adobe's suite, MS-Office (did a major update on that too with no problems), and various other specialty programs. (I have other boxes too, but none have gone through that extreme range of upgrades. Also my work typically starts with a box at an engineers desk and it often ends up at a secretary's desk 3-5 years later running newer versions of the OS and apps. Rarely do we do a complete wipe and reinstall when doing this.)

Are problems possible? Yes. But they are tipically rarer than with the MS OS upgrades. Just be sure to do a 100% mirror backup of your system before you upgrade and no matter what happens your safe.

With regard to your choice of system just one comment: be sure you want the glossy screen. Glossy screens give the apearance of "richer colors" and such -- and many people prefer them, but if you often are going to use it in a high ambient light environment (like outdoors) the reflections off the glossy screen might become annoying and induce more eye strain.

I enjoy the glossy screen on the HP laptop that i've got now so I'm thinking that one would be nice too. The HP laptop I have has an amazing High Def screen and the Apple should be ever better.

[Spankey]

Even though my company uses Windows and I must support that infrastructure, MS has done enough to convince me not to use them for home applications. As soon as I can afford a Mac Book Pro, I will be picking one up. I'm just done with Windows and Microsoft.

[marzetta7]

Originally Posted by sltmag

Even though my company uses Windows and I must support that infrastructure, MS has done enough to convince me not to use them for home applications. As soon as I can afford a Mac Book Pro, I will be picking one up. I'm just done with Windows and Microsoft.

I feel ya bro. I recently got a 20in iMac and I'm in heaven. The wife calls it "my mistress." Great build quality, fast, quiet as a whisper, and not to mention virus free. I haven't looked back since...I don't even want to get on my HP laptop from work with Vista anymore when I get home.

All I'm saying, is you won't be dissappointed. In fact, I think you'll be floored with how responsive and stable the OS is.

[marzetta7]

Finished watching the keynote on Apple's site, and what I had hoped for was an announcement of Gmail accounts working with iChat's video confrence capability. I can see why one would need a .Mac account, but I can't stand AOL, thus why I will never get an AOL instand messenger account. I just wish they somehow went with a Google angle there...ah well.

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by marzetta7

Finished watching the keynote on Apple's site, and what I had hoped for was an announcement of Gmail accounts working with iChat's video confrence capability. I can see why one would need a .Mac account, but I can't stand AOL, thus why I will never get an AOL instand messenger account. I just wish they somehow went with a Google angle there...ah well.

I would like to see MSN compatible with iChat, I don't like to use Messenger for Mac.

I want a .Mac subscription, but at 100$ a year, there's no way. I can get more storage with a free Gmail account. But it would be awesome to have an @mac.com email.

[blurayforever143]

At least now you can dual boot these machines.

Still though, I have a feeling the high end Sony books next year will blow these macs out of the water, especially with Blu-Ray writers stock and the new screens. It's all Intel hardware now so the only difference is the OS.

[TJandBLU-RAY]

Originally Posted by Aaron

But it would be awesome to have an @mac.com email.

Hey, I do! I never thought how cool that was till you said it was awesome. Thanks for the positive thought!

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by TJandBLU-RAY

Hey, I do! I never thought how cool that was till you said it was awesome. Thanks for the positive thought!

Lucky!
I signed up for the trial, but it expired. If .Mac has a student discount, then I'll consider it. But if I am going to have to pay 100$, then no way.