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Old 06-29-2009, 02:59 PM   #1
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Is it possible to record HD video to a standard DVD or Dual layer DVD for playback on BluRay players?

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Old 06-29-2009, 03:34 PM   #2
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I don't know if you can play it back on a blu-ray player. You will have to check if you player can play burned DVDs and if it can play the file format that you put on the disc. As long as the video is small enough to fit on the disc it will burn.

From the looks of it most player will accept burned discs, which player do you have? Also it looks like every player can handle MPEG-2, MPEG-4 AVC (H.264), and VC-1 since those are common blu-ray formats. As long as the video you are burning is one of these formats (most common is H.264) then I'm sure you will be fine.

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Old 06-29-2009, 08:41 PM   #3
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Actually you will have to play it back on a Blu-ray player to get true HD, not upscaling. You can cram the data on the disc, but you will need a Blu-ray player to actually play it back at the higher data speed and HD format. I am not sure but I think you might have to burn it on a Blu-ray burner, but probably a regular DVD burner will do it with the right software. Of course as mentioned before you will be very limited to the length of what you can record, but for a home video this probably doesn't matter and it certainly is cheaper to buy DVD-R than a BD-R. I see coasters in your future, DVDs make better coasters since their lost cost won't be so aggravating. And if you are going to burn to BD start with a BD-RE until you get the process right.
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As long as the source material is in good condition, you don't have to worry about coasters, you will still get good to great quality. You'll first need software that can mux the audio and video to a AVCHD structure, good freeware would be tsMuxeR, then use whatever software that can burn the UDF 2.5 file system... which is pretty much any... good freeware would be IMGBurn.

Next you'll need a player that plays AVCHD. Done!
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Actually you will have to play it back on a Blu-ray player to get true HD, not upscaling. You can cram the data on the disc, but you will need a Blu-ray player to actually play it back at the higher data speed and HD format. I am not sure but I think you might have to burn it on a Blu-ray burner, but probably a regular DVD burner will do it with the right software. Of course as mentioned before you will be very limited to the length of what you can record, but for a home video this probably doesn't matter and it certainly is cheaper to buy DVD-R than a BD-R. I see coasters in your future, DVDs make better coasters since their lost cost won't be so aggravating. And if you are going to burn to BD start with a BD-RE until you get the process right.
If he is burning to DVD then having a blu-ray burner will add no extra value. Just use ImgBurn and you should be fine. Be advised that I don't think blu-ray players can read dual-layer dvds.

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Old 06-29-2009, 09:12 PM   #6
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Yeah you can stick 1080p video on a DVD but only 4/8GBs worth (depending on the DVD). I use Toast to do this as i still don't have a BD burner yet.
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:15 PM   #7
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Yeah you can stick 1080p video on a DVD but only 4/8GBs worth (depending on the DVD). I use Toast to do this as i still don't have a BD burner yet.
I do 1080p on a DVD9 all the time too... I have a BD burner though. Processed properly 1080p video can still look mighty magnificent @ ~6-8mb/s video bitrate.
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If he is burning to DVD then having a blu-ray burner will add no extra value. Just use ImgBurn and you should be fine. Be advised that I don't think blu-ray players can read dual-layer dvds.
I think more players actually can than cant. I know my Pioneer can.
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I think more players actually can than cant. I know my Pioneer can.
arent most comercial dvd's produced on dual layer discs, not playing dual layer discs doesnt make sense to me
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Actually you will have to play it back on a Blu-ray player to get true HD, not upscaling. You can cram the data on the disc, but you will need a Blu-ray player to actually play it back at the higher data speed and HD format. I am not sure but I think you might have to burn it on a Blu-ray burner, but probably a regular DVD burner will do it with the right software. Of course as mentioned before you will be very limited to the length of what you can record, but for a home video this probably doesn't matter and it certainly is cheaper to buy DVD-R than a BD-R. I see coasters in your future, DVDs make better coasters since their lost cost won't be so aggravating. And if you are going to burn to BD start with a BD-RE until you get the process right.
You are mistaken there, if you have Ulead Video Studio 10 or above you can actually encode your home videos with WMVHD at either 1080p or 720p and place it on a DVD (I have an actual 1080p WMVHD - purchased- that looks beautiful called "Stormchasers!", I was into HD before Bluray and HD-DVD came out - a real early adopter ). It's not upscaling either - its true High Definition (WMV-HD "zips" the content and then unzips it for playback - it even has 5.1 lossless audio via Windows Media 9 Series Codecs). Bluray carries more data for sure, but - if you are doing home movies and you don't have a BD burner - you can get HD (true 1080p) it just matters how you encode and what software you have to do it with - and if its too long - you may have to use more than one disc

P.S. if you are doing 1080p - it takes a long time to render but its worth it (our tv department is HD capable - cameras, Ulead, Adobe CS Suite, and Final Cut - we have it all and put it to use )!

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You are mistaken there, if you have Ulead Video Studio 10 or above you can actually encode your home videos with WMVHD at either 1080p or 720p and place it on a DVD (I have an actual 1080p WMVHD that looks beautiful called "Stormchasers!", I was into HD before Bluray and HD-DVD came out - a real early adopter ). It's not upscaling either - its true High Definition (WMV-HD "zips" the content and then unzips it for playback - it even has 5.1 lossless audio via Windows Media 9 Series Codecs). Bluray carries more data for sure, but - if you are doing home movies and you don't have a BD burner - you can get HD (true 1080p) it just matters how you encode and what software you have to do it with - and if its too long - you may have to use more than one disc

P.S. if you are doing 1080p - it takes a long time to render but its worth it (our tv department is HD capable - cameras, Ulead, Adobe CS Suite, and Final Cut - we have it all and put it to use )!
Second P.S. - Since this is in the PC section - WMV HD's are only playable on PC's But my PC is the main player in my system so I tend to forget that everyone doesn't do this (use their pc as a total media center).
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Yeah you can stick 1080p video on a DVD but only 4/8GBs worth (depending on the DVD). I use Toast to do this as i still don't have a BD burner yet.
You are correct my Mac-ish friend!!!
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Old 06-30-2009, 01:26 PM   #13
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Even of you do not use a PC as your player, there are apps that can mux to Blu-ray structure (AVCHD for DVD as well), and any burning ROM can burn properly.

So if your only playback device is a standalone you are safe.

PS, the PS3 can play WMV-HD and a slew of other formats. The new LGs can play MKV, and other HD formats.

So standalones are now joining the digital media playback world, I believe the LGs play digital media via streaming, and definetly from disc, and USB storage.
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Old 06-30-2009, 02:18 PM   #14
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You are mistaken there, if you have Ulead Video Studio 10 or above you can actually encode your home videos with WMVHD at either 1080p or 720p and place it on a DVD (I have an actual 1080p WMVHD - purchased- that looks beautiful called "Stormchasers!", I was into HD before Bluray and HD-DVD came out - a real early adopter ). It's not upscaling either - its true High Definition (WMV-HD "zips" the content and then unzips it for playback - it even has 5.1 lossless audio via Windows Media 9 Series Codecs). Bluray carries more data for sure, but - if you are doing home movies and you don't have a BD burner - you can get HD (true 1080p) it just matters how you encode and what software you have to do it with - and if its too long - you may have to use more than one disc

P.S. if you are doing 1080p - it takes a long time to render but its worth it (our tv department is HD capable - cameras, Ulead, Adobe CS Suite, and Final Cut - we have it all and put it to use )!
I shouldn't have replied to the OP, only did because he had posted his question 6 hrs before and only had one response that I thought had some misleading information. I also was only thinking he meant to playback in a standalone Blu-ray player but I can see what you are saying would be true when using a PC, but I wouldn't think a standalone DVD player even with an HDMI connection could playback an HD file without doing upscaling since it is not the specified standard for DVD. Who knows, maybe current players can even do that. I apologize to the OP for misguiding him on the required use of a Blu-ray player. I use Sony Vegas to create my Blu-ray home videos and haven't done any in recent months, but I had done some HD to DVD and played them back on a Blu-ray player which kind of focussed my thinking in that direction.

I will stay out of this section!
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