What is BD+

[VenomXR8]

Quick question, i keep reading posts on the forums stating that the "hi def war" will be over once BD+ comes out.My question is what is BD+???

[Lord_Stewie]

BD+ is an interpreter. its solely designed for security measures.

[NutsAboutPS3]

BUT the extra security will allow studios to feel more comfortable about releasing Blu-rays and should result in more titles becoming available.

I do worry about what will happen if it gets hacked, though.

[movies3]

there is a section in the forums that explains BD+ for you somewhere, just check around

[nhaase]

Originally Posted by NutsAboutPS3

BUT the extra security will allow studios to feel more comfortable about releasing Blu-rays and should result in more titles becoming available.

I do worry about what will happen if it gets hacked, though.

I wonder about that (hacking) too, but Fox has held their titles back because they're waiting for BD+ to be finalized. I'm wondering if they're testing it or something in Japan, as they've begun announcing new titles for release over there.

[Blu Tiger]

Originally Posted by NutsAboutPS3

I do worry about what will happen if it gets hacked, though.

Isn't it just a matter of time?

[NutsAboutPS3]

Originally Posted by kiddtigger

Isn't it just a matter of time?

It may well be - if it does get hacked, then will Fox and Disney see that as a reason to go format neutral? Will there be huge numbers of HD-DVD fanboy hackers working on hacking BD+ to help bring this about?

[haushausman]

It will get hacked. Everything always does. Can anyone name a security measure that didn't get reverse engineered?

Studios need to realize the people that acquire bootlegged/hacked movies.. will only get their movies that way. They not going to give up and start shopping at best buy with the money they don't have to start.

Consumers who buy BD like to acquire a HARD copy of the movie. And then display it nicely around their overpriced TV to secretly brag to their friends about how awesome their home theater and movie collection is.

There's a huge difference between brokeass teenage hackers and actual consumers who will buy the movie even if it is available for download.

[IamNhobdy]

Originally Posted by haushausman

It will get hacked. Everything always does. Can anyone name a security measure that didn't get reverse engineered?

Studios need to realize the people that acquire bootlegged/hacked movies.. will only get their movies that way. They not going to give up and start shopping at best buy with the money they don't have to start.

Consumers who buy BD like to acquire a HARD copy of the movie. And then display it nicely around their overpriced TV to secretly brag to their friends about how awesome their home theater and movie collection is.

There's a huge difference between brokeass teenage hackers and actual consumers who will buy the movie even if it is available for download.

Not to mention those who just think of each new measure as a challenge.

now as for this...

Consumers who buy BD like to acquire a HARD copy of the movie. And then display it nicely around their overpriced TV to secretly brag to their friends about how awesome their home theater and movie collection is.

I know in lots of cases it is true, but in my case I am a reclusive person. I don't have people come over to see my HD stuff. It's purely for my own entertainment. In fact, I don't even have a surround sound system...just a little $25 2.1 computer speaker system. Most of us don't need/like to brag. We just like to see and hear the details we never could before. It's like watchin the movies you love for the first time again. That's all.

[Musashi]

Originally Posted by NutsAboutPS3

It may well be - if it does get hacked, then will Fox and Disney see that as a reason to go format neutral? Will there be huge numbers of HD-DVD fanboy hackers working on hacking BD+ to help bring this about?

No they won't go neutral because even if BD+ is hacked, BD still has better security and more disc space.

[haushausman]

Originally Posted by IamNhobdy

Not to mention those who just think of each new measure as a challenge.

now as for this...


I know in lots of cases it is true, but in my case I am a reclusive person. I don't have people come over to see my HD stuff. It's purely for my own entertainment. In fact, I don't even have a surround sound system...just a little $25 2.1 computer speaker system. Most of us don't need/like to brag. We just like to see and hear the details we never could before. It's like watchin the movies you love for the first time again. That's all.

You can pick up a Dolby 5.1 surround system for under 2 bills on eBay. I got the 1000 watt Samsung one. Totally worth it. Once you hear the difference you'll want to crank it up and let it do the talking for you.

And just for the record... I never brag. People see my TV and start asking questions. For some, HDTV is still a new thing...

[gamer4eva]

Originally Posted by haushausman

And just for the record... I never brag. People see my TV and start asking questions. For some, HDTV is still a new thing...

For some old people DVD is the latest thing feel sorry for them

[BadAss]

Originally Posted by VenomXR8

Quick question, i keep reading posts on the forums stating that the "hi def war" will be over once BD+ comes out.My question is what is BD+???

BD+ is effectively a small virtual machine embedded in authorized players. It allows content providers to include executable programs on Blu-ray discs.

Such programs can examine the host environment, to see if the player has been tampered with. Every licensed playback device manufacturer must provide the BD+ licensing authority with memory footprints that identifies their devices.

They also verify that the player's keys have not been changed. Execute native code, possibly to patch an otherwise unsecure system. Transform the audio and video output. Parts of the content will not be viewable without letting the BD+-program descramble it.
If a playback device manufacturer finds that its devices have been hacked, it can potentially release BD+-code that detects and circumvents the vulnerability. These programs can then be included in all new content releases.

Hope this explains things.

[Moretonbay]

Originally Posted by haushausman

It will get hacked. Everything always does. Consumers who buy BD like to acquire a HARD copy of the movie. And then display it nicely around their overpriced TV to secretly brag to their friends about how awesome their home theater and movie collection is.

.

So says the person with the signature:

PS3 60 gig
61" Samsung DLP 1080p HDTV
1000 watt Dolby 5.1 Samsung Speakers
25 BD Movies and counting...
HOW DO YOU MAKE THE ABOVE EVEN BETTER?
Add a huge black leather sectional

Most of us are just movie lovers-I could care less who saw what in my house-I like the big screens and the awesome surround sound because I love movies and I love watching them in the best way possible.

[haushausman]

I have no shame in my game. My set-up is sick..

[Moretonbay]

No it was just funny considering the comment you made.

[WickyWoo]

The advantage of BD+ is that they can rewrite the protection on every single disc if they want to, so if they crack version 1, version 2 can start shipping on new discs within weeks and so on and so forth.

[Canada]

Now there will be! have you never heard of the war saying "Loose lips sink ships"

[jorg]

Originally Posted by haushausman

It will get hacked. Everything always does. Can anyone name a security measure that didn't get reverse engineered?

wow r u serious have u ever heard of c5 or accs? videogaurd or nargravision 2? atho accs and nagravison have been cracked its only becuase of stupid mistkaes as in accs(lets just put the keys in the memory unecrypted and see if we get crack?) and nargravison(just got $#$#@ out of the ass with leaks and attakes)

[zombieking]

Originally Posted by NutsAboutPS3

BUT the extra security will allow studios to feel more comfortable about releasing Blu-rays and should result in more titles becoming available.

I do worry about what will happen if it gets hacked, though.

Not IF, but WHEN