Why do SCE games run & look great? Here's why! - Blu-ray Forum

browinie · 07-24-2009, 03:45 PM

A great deal of Sony's internal games have set the bar in terms of graphics and tech for PS3. Today while geeking-out over credits on numerous Sony titles, I learnt of two teams with reoccuring credits in a few of them, under two groups; 'ICE Team' and 'Advanced Techonolgy Group'. They essentially go around to different studios and give them a hand in programming for PS3.

Both these teams have shared there expertise in; Resistance; MotorStorm; Warhawk; R&CF; Heavenly Sword; LBP; Uncharted and many many others. Team ATG aren't shy in giving third-party studios a hand either, a few members such Simon Brown, Tim Dann, Colin Hughes, and Nicolas Serres (who've worked on the above mentioned titles) have been fingering RockStar North's GTAIV. It won't be surprising to see them credited in Agent either.

Doing further research, ICE Team resides at NAUGHTY DOG's BUILDING! Yes, that's right. They've also been doing a bit of engine building for third-party developers such as the PlayStation Edge. :P

Sources:
http://www.mobygames.com/home
http://wikibin.org/articles/ice-team.html

dk3dknight · 07-24-2009, 03:52 PM

Wow sounds cool thanks for posting this.

GLaDOS · 07-24-2009, 06:00 PM

Interesting article. But what about MGS4? Doesn't that look and run great?

Shin-Ra · 07-24-2009, 06:24 PM

The environment looks pretty average close up.

dk3dknight · 07-24-2009, 06:30 PM

MGS4 is because of the amounts of pure love put into it..

GTA4 though don't think that is actually a good example..

browinie · 07-24-2009, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kotsedriver

Interesting article. But what about MGS4? Doesn't that look and run great?

You're missing the point. SCE have basically a secret development team that handle problems for the company's internal studios. Which is why SCE developed titles are consistent or better on a technical stand point.

Marine Mike · 07-24-2009, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by browinie

You're missing the point. SCE have basically a secret development team that handle problems for the company's internal studios. Which is why SCE developed titles are consistent or better on a technical stand point.

As dkknight mentioned, GTAIV is a horrid piece of evidence to support the claim.

browinie · 07-24-2009, 06:40 PM

ATG people assisted where it was needed with GTA4, but thats largely Rockstars effort for a multiplatform title. Team ICE however are the technical geniuses, which are the guys i'm referring to most who've been doing the internal stuff.

dk3dknight · 07-24-2009, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by browinie

ATG people assisted where it was needed with GTA4, but thats largely Rockstars effort for a multiplatform title. Team ICE however are the technical geniuses, which are the guys i'm referring to most who've been doing the internal stuff.

As I recall Rockstar actually talked about them, I believe the reference was they were ninjas.. and that they wore lab coats.. and absolute geniuses and that sony sent them in because they couldn't get GTA4 to run and the ninjas came in and fixed it..

Monkey · 07-24-2009, 07:19 PM

Naughty Dawg = Gods of gaming development

Septimus Prime · 07-24-2009, 07:22 PM

ICE Team is not a secret in the industry. Sony guys are available to assist pretty much any developer with any game.

Ascended_Saiyan · 07-24-2009, 07:41 PM

Actually, Edge isn't an engine. It's a series of optimized systems (best practices) for the Cell architecture. The developer engine developed by Sony is called the PhyreEngine. It's available to all PS3 devs.

07-24-2009, 03:45 PM	#1
browinie Active Member Member since:Oct 2008 Blu-ray collection:-	Why do SCE games run & look great? Here's why! A great deal of Sony's internal games have set the bar in terms of graphics and tech for PS3. Today while geeking-out over credits on numerous Sony titles, I learnt of two teams with reoccuring credits in a few of them, under two groups; 'ICE Team' and 'Advanced Techonolgy Group'. They essentially go around to different studios and give them a hand in programming for PS3. Both these teams have shared there expertise in; Resistance; MotorStorm; Warhawk; R&CF; Heavenly Sword; LBP; Uncharted and many many others. Team ATG aren't shy in giving third-party studios a hand either, a few members such Simon Brown, Tim Dann, Colin Hughes, and Nicolas Serres (who've worked on the above mentioned titles) have been fingering RockStar North's GTAIV. It won't be surprising to see them credited in Agent either. Doing further research, ICE Team resides at NAUGHTY DOG's BUILDING! Yes, that's right. They've also been doing a bit of engine building for third-party developers such as the PlayStation Edge. :P Sources: http://www.mobygames.com/home http://wikibin.org/articles/ice-team.html

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07-24-2009, 03:52 PM	#2
dk3dknight Blu-ray Ninja Member since:May 2007 Location:Arlington, Texas PSNetwork: dk3dknight PostCount: 0001 Blu-ray collection:44 Blu-ray reviews: 2	Wow sounds cool thanks for posting this.

07-24-2009, 06:00 PM	#3
GLaDOS Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:May 2009 Location:Fujiwara Tofu Shop 4K collection:10 Blu-ray collection:114 Blu-ray reviews: 5	Interesting article. But what about MGS4? Doesn't that look and run great?

07-24-2009, 06:24 PM	#4
Shin-Ra Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Feb 2007 Blu-ray collection:5 Trading Score:1	The environment looks pretty average close up.

07-24-2009, 06:30 PM	#5
dk3dknight Blu-ray Ninja Member since:May 2007 Location:Arlington, Texas PSNetwork: dk3dknight PostCount: 0001 Blu-ray collection:44 Blu-ray reviews: 2	MGS4 is because of the amounts of pure love put into it.. GTA4 though don't think that is actually a good example..

07-24-2009, 06:40 PM	#8
browinie Active Member Member since:Oct 2008 Blu-ray collection:-	ATG people assisted where it was needed with GTA4, but thats largely Rockstars effort for a multiplatform title. Team ICE however are the technical geniuses, which are the guys i'm referring to most who've been doing the internal stuff.

07-24-2009, 07:19 PM	#10
Monkey Blu-ray Knight Member since:Sep 2006 Trading Score:31	Naughty Dawg = Gods of gaming development

07-24-2009, 07:22 PM	#11
Septimus Prime Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2008 Blu-ray collection:164 Trading Score:2	ICE Team is not a secret in the industry. Sony guys are available to assist pretty much any developer with any game.

07-24-2009, 07:41 PM	#12
Ascended_Saiyan Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Atlanta, Georgia Blu-ray collection:608 Trading Score:1	Actually, Edge isn't an engine. It's a series of optimized systems (best practices) for the Cell architecture. The developer engine developed by Sony is called the PhyreEngine. It's available to all PS3 devs.

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