What's up with 007 Never Say Never Again? - Blu-ray Forum

Sylin · 08-14-2009, 04:51 PM

Just got this from Amazon as part of the B2G1 promo with Moonraker and Goldfinger, and noticed it does not match the same style and design of the previous Bond releases on Blu (as far as the case is concerned... I haven't popped it in the player to see if it has the same menu designs).

Any idea what's up with this release? Why the inconsistency? And when will we see the remaining Bond films on Blu? (By my count, there are 8 unreleased.)

Jack Wade · 08-14-2009, 04:53 PM

NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN is an unofficial Bond film. It wasn't produced by EON Productions, the company that produced the 22 official films, but rather by Kevin McClory and Warner Bros.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Say_Never_Again

Batman1980 · 08-14-2009, 04:54 PM

It's not an official Bond film, it was done by a non-MGM studio.

king_patrick_7 · 08-14-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolverine1980

It's not an official Bond film, it was done by a non-MGM studio.

I also think its a remake of Thunderball?

Gone2HiDef · 08-14-2009, 04:56 PM

What they ^ said. The Wiki link above is good to read. You should also check out the bonus material on the disc, where the producers and cast describe their first-person accounts of the whole issue.

benricci · 08-14-2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolverine1980

It's not an official Bond film, it was done by a non-MGM studio.

Ironically, Never Say Never Again is now also controlled by MGM. They got the rights when they acquired Orion back in the late 90s.

benricci · 08-14-2009, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by king_patrick_7

I also think its a remake of Thunderball?

Correct, this is a version of Thunderball.

Danielle Ni Dhighe · 08-14-2009, 05:03 PM

NSNA wasn’t part of the official Bond series (i.e. the films produced by EON).

I hope we’ll see the remaining Bond films on Blu-ray soon, and I’d love to see a box set containing all of the official films so far. It would be pricy, but well worth it.

SDon1969 · 08-14-2009, 05:28 PM

Yup, even in all of the previous DVD box sets (Ultimate Bond DVD and the earlier versions as well), NSNA was not included.

Big-byrd · 08-14-2009, 05:32 PM

thats so weird.... so in 83 they had connery return as bond and octokitty with moore all in the same year.. weird

benricci · 08-14-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Big-byrd

thats so weird.... so in 83 they had connery return as bond and octokitty with moore all in the same year.. weird

Yep, it was the "Battle of the Bonds", or at least that's what the marketing hype wanted you to believe....

Sylin · 08-14-2009, 05:36 PM

Gotcha. Thanks for all the replies. Completely forgot there was an unofficial Bond film, but this jogged my memory. For a second there I was concerned that they changed up the artwork on these releases. I like that all the pre-Daniel Craig Bond films match up nicely on my shelf.

I'd really like Octo***** and A View to a Kill next.

adh56 · 08-14-2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by benricci

Ironically, Never Say Never Again is now also controlled by MGM. They got the rights when they acquired Orion back in the late 90s.

I always thought it was funny that MGM DVD didn't have and MGM logos on it

Deciazulado · 08-14-2009, 06:01 PM

The battle of the Bonds

Wdm81 · 08-14-2009, 06:06 PM

NSNA is sort of a superman Returns type of entry in the bond series, it's meant to follow diamonds are forever in bond continuity, completley ignoring the roger moore films as well as i guess now every movie after 1971

After Diamonds Are Forever we are meant to assume that Bond Retired and that M, Q and other characters also retired in that time and were replaced with successors. NSNA picks up with James bond 12 years after his retirement (in 1983), where he is brought back into Mi6 by the new Q

It's a pretty neat idea, it was done because producers only had the right to remake thunderball and not to any of the rest of the series and characters, but IMO its at least a clever idea to try and meld an unofficial Bond movie into the continuiuty of the official series (even if it ignores every adventure after diamonds are forever)

In many ways it films like a fan film, only with the rel orginal actor and not someone playing the original actor, and although its weak film in a lot of ways, it does somewhat give Sean connery a nice finish to the character he helped create... It's too bad there can't be another unofficial Bond film staring tim Dalton... now theres a bond actor i'd pay to see return to the role all these years later

boxterduke · 08-14-2009, 08:19 PM

I don't even shelf this movie next to my other Bond movies since it is not an official film.

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Originally Posted by king_patrick_7

I also think its a remake of Thunderball?

Yeah it is a remake of it.
I also heard that Jack Schwartzman wanted to remake it one more time but EON put a stop to that.

MTRodaba2468 · 08-14-2009, 10:21 PM

As others have said, it's not one of the "official" Bond movies.

syncguy · 08-15-2009, 12:26 AM

Never say never again may not be an official Bond movie but it is a good bond movie of eighties. Hope to see quality blu-ray treatment. Tomatoes has given 64% rating.

CrazyOvaBlu · 08-15-2009, 07:20 AM

I wish the CR & QOS covers matched the others.

C.O.B, out.

Ray_Rogers · 08-15-2009, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyOvaBlu

I wish the CR & QOS covers matched the others.

C.O.B, out.

But CASINO ROYALE and Quantum of Solace are part of the OO7 reboot so obviously they'll have different designs for the covers.
I knew about the Never Say Never Again branch-off/Non-EON when I was a kid. Of course when I buy it it'll go after the "official" EON productions.

08-14-2009, 04:51 PM	#1
Sylin Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Nashville Blu-ray collection:1 Trading Score:159	What's up with 007 Never Say Never Again? Just got this from Amazon as part of the B2G1 promo with Moonraker and Goldfinger, and noticed it does not match the same style and design of the previous Bond releases on Blu (as far as the case is concerned... I haven't popped it in the player to see if it has the same menu designs). Any idea what's up with this release? Why the inconsistency? And when will we see the remaining Bond films on Blu? (By my count, there are 8 unreleased.)

08-15-2009, 07:20 AM	#19
CrazyOvaBlu Banned Member since:Jul 2009	I wish the CR & QOS covers matched the others. C.O.B, out. Last edited by CrazyOvaBlu; 08-15-2009 at 07:37 AM.

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08-14-2009, 04:53 PM	#2
Jack Wade Active Member Member since:Mar 2009 Blu-ray collection:64	NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN is an unofficial Bond film. It wasn't produced by EON Productions, the company that produced the 22 official films, but rather by Kevin McClory and Warner Bros. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Say_Never_Again

08-14-2009, 04:54 PM	#3
Batman1980 Blu-ray Jedi Member since:Feb 2009 Location:District 13 Home Theater Gallery:8 4K collection:146 Blu-ray collection:394 DVD collection:57 Blu-ray reviews:22 Trading Score:48	It's not an official Bond film, it was done by a non-MGM studio.

08-14-2009, 04:56 PM	#5
Gone2HiDef Power Member Member since:Oct 2008 4K collection:123 Blu-ray collection:759 DVD collection:169 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:4	What they ^ said. The Wiki link above is good to read. You should also check out the bonus material on the disc, where the producers and cast describe their first-person accounts of the whole issue.

08-14-2009, 05:03 PM	#8
Danielle Ni Dhighe Senior Member Member since:Aug 2009 Blu-ray collection:120	NSNA wasn’t part of the official Bond series (i.e. the films produced by EON). I hope we’ll see the remaining Bond films on Blu-ray soon, and I’d love to see a box set containing all of the official films so far. It would be pricy, but well worth it.

08-14-2009, 05:28 PM	#9
SDon1969 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Massachusetts Home Theater Gallery:32 Blu-ray collection:745 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	Yup, even in all of the previous DVD box sets (Ultimate Bond DVD and the earlier versions as well), NSNA was not included.

08-14-2009, 05:32 PM	#10
Big-byrd Active Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Oregon Home Theater Gallery:5 Blu-ray collection:61 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:5	thats so weird.... so in 83 they had connery return as bond and octokitty with moore all in the same year.. weird

08-14-2009, 05:36 PM	#12
Sylin Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Nashville Blu-ray collection:1 Trading Score:159	Gotcha. Thanks for all the replies. Completely forgot there was an unofficial Bond film, but this jogged my memory. For a second there I was concerned that they changed up the artwork on these releases. I like that all the pre-Daniel Craig Bond films match up nicely on my shelf. I'd really like Octo***** and A View to a Kill next.

08-14-2009, 06:01 PM	#14
Deciazulado Site Manager Top contributor Member since:Aug 2006 Location:USiberia Home Theater Gallery:6 4K collection:1160 Blu-ray collection:7047 DVD collection:4044	The battle of the Bonds

08-14-2009, 06:06 PM	#15
Wdm81 Special Member Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Canada 4K collection:5 Blu-ray collection:864 DVD collection:85 Blu-ray reviews: 6	NSNA is sort of a superman Returns type of entry in the bond series, it's meant to follow diamonds are forever in bond continuity, completley ignoring the roger moore films as well as i guess now every movie after 1971 After Diamonds Are Forever we are meant to assume that Bond Retired and that M, Q and other characters also retired in that time and were replaced with successors. NSNA picks up with James bond 12 years after his retirement (in 1983), where he is brought back into Mi6 by the new Q It's a pretty neat idea, it was done because producers only had the right to remake thunderball and not to any of the rest of the series and characters, but IMO its at least a clever idea to try and meld an unofficial Bond movie into the continuiuty of the official series (even if it ignores every adventure after diamonds are forever) In many ways it films like a fan film, only with the rel orginal actor and not someone playing the original actor, and although its weak film in a lot of ways, it does somewhat give Sean connery a nice finish to the character he helped create... It's too bad there can't be another unofficial Bond film staring tim Dalton... now theres a bond actor i'd pay to see return to the role all these years later

08-14-2009, 10:21 PM	#17
MTRodaba2468 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Western Kentucky Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:1137 Blu-ray collection:5817 DVD collection:1284 MA collection:676 Digital collection:1383 iTunes collection:244 Trading Score:8	As others have said, it's not one of the "official" Bond movies.

08-15-2009, 12:26 AM	#18
syncguy Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2008	Never say never again may not be an official Bond movie but it is a good bond movie of eighties. Hope to see quality blu-ray treatment. Tomatoes has given 64% rating.

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