Questions regarding PS3 settings.

[backtothecanvas]

I was curious and looking around my PS3 display settings today and noticed a few items i was not familiar with. So i figured id see if anyone on here could explain them . . . First one was the

- "RGB Full Range (HDMI)" option is set to "limited" instead of "full". i guess im curious as to what this is and why do i only want "limited" of it?

- Next is "Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr Super White (HDMI)" option is set to "off". Again not sure what this means or what benefits "on" might add.

- Lastly is the "Cross Color Reduction Filter" option is set to "off". Just wondering what this is as well!!

Thank you for all your time as always. Sometimes i hope that i have been missing out on a single setting that could make things so much better visually or sonically! I think i recall possibly my TV having a few of these settings as well . . .

[DarkDune]

- "RGB Full Range (HDMI)" option is set to "limited" instead of "full". i guess im curious as to what this is and why do i only want "limited" of it?

Set it to FULL

- Next is "Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr Super White (HDMI)" option is set to "off". Again not sure what this means or what benefits "on" might add.

Set it to ON

- Lastly is the "Cross Color Reduction Filter" option is set to "off". Just wondering what this is as well!!

Don't worry about it unless you are using Composite or S-Video

[backtothecanvas]

Originally Posted by DarkDune

- "RGB Full Range (HDMI)" option is set to "limited" instead of "full". i guess im curious as to what this is and why do i only want "limited" of it?

Set it to FULL

- Next is "Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr Super White (HDMI)" option is set to "off". Again not sure what this means or what benefits "on" might add.

Set it to ON

- Lastly is the "Cross Color Reduction Filter" option is set to "off". Just wondering what this is as well!!

Don't worry about it unless you are using Component Video

haha see i was missing out!! will there be any noticeable difference to anything? Also if my TV offers the same settings would i change them as well?

[king_patrick_7]

Originally Posted by backtothecanvas

haha see i was missing out!! will there be any noticeable difference to anything? Also if my TV offers the same settings would i change them as well?

I've swtiched these setting back and forth and never really noticed much difference but who knows

[DarkDune]

Originally Posted by backtothecanvas

haha see i was missing out!! will there be any noticeable difference to anything? Also if my TV offers the same settings would i change them as well?

RGB FULL gives richer color on the XMB and some PS3 Games.

http://manuals.playstation.net/docum...fullrange.html

SuperWhite ON allows Blacker than Black and Whiter than White info to be displayed.

http://manuals.playstation.net/docum...uperwhite.html

The last one does something for Composite or S-Video. You can also read about it in the Online Manual:

http://manuals.playstation.net/docum...rosscolor.html

[ronjones]

You may want to check out the PS3 FAQ thread on the AVS Forum for info on PS3 setup.

[backtothecanvas]

According to AVS sounds like RGB should stay at "limited" and not "full".

[SlmShdy1]

I would say keep it set to limited unless you're using a computer monitor. Most TV's look best on limited. I've tried mine on full and it makes everything darker to the point where you can't see anything. Try it out though and see what you like. The biggest determining factor for me was my games. I had it set to limited while playing Uncharted. For sh*ts and giggles, I switched it to full and I couldn't see where I was going. So I turned it back to limited.

[DarkDune]

Originally Posted by backtothecanvas

According to AVS sounds like RGB should stay at "limited" and not "full".

I use Full on the PS3 - you will notice an immediate improvement in the XMB, and Auto on the Sony KDL-40XBR4.

Best of both Worlds

[ronjones]

Originally Posted by backtothecanvas

According to AVS sounds like RGB should stay at "limited" and not "full".

For BD and DVD playback the 'best' setting is to use "Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr" output via HDMI (rather than RGB) and with superwhite turned on (to pass blacker-than-black and whiter-than-white signal levels). This lets you use a test disc to calibrate your HD display. Neither RGB full or limited will pass BTB and WTW. When running XMB and games on the PS3 the output will revert to RGB mode and your selection of "RGB Full" vs. "RGB Limited" should depend on how you have calibrated your HD display. If it is calibrated like a PC monitor (i.e, a 0 value=black and 255 value=white) then setting the PS3 to "RGB Full" is appropriate. If you must run RGB to your display for BD/DVD playback then "RGB Limited" is the most accurate mode (since it doesn't require the remapping of video levels as you get with the "RGB Full" setting) and is the better RGB mode for BD/DVD playback as long as you can calibrate your HD display for the proper black and white levels.

There is no single answer that applies to everyone since what is best depends on the capabilities of your HD display (i.e., does it have separate memories to store the video settings for when you are sending it RGB vs. Y Pb Pr via HDMI) as well as the PS3. The monitor needs to be calibrated for each of the output signal formats from the PS3. Depending on how you set your PS3 that may require either a single calibration setting on the monitor or two different monitior calibration settings in order to give optium video performance.

[Moefiz]

Not meaning to hijack a thread but I have a question also...

Lastnight was the first time I looked at a Blu-ray using my PS 3 in the bedroom, there is no sound system just PS hooked up straight to the TV..anyway was looking at Slumdog Millionaire and the sound was really low, had to take the Sony tv volume up to 20 to here comfortably...is that normal or do I have my audio setting wrong...

[Hammie]

Has anyone been able to find out how to stream audio at 44.1kHz? It seems to default to 48kHz.

[neos_peace]

Originally Posted by Moefiz

Not meaning to hijack a thread but I have a question also...

Lastnight was the first time I looked at a Blu-ray using my PS 3 in the bedroom, there is no sound system just PS hooked up straight to the TV..anyway was looking at Slumdog Millionaire and the sound was really low, had to take the Sony tv volume up to 20 to here comfortably...is that normal or do I have my audio setting wrong...

You'll want to bring up the PS3 options part in movie, hit the triangle I belive. There is a sound setting you might want to check ans see if that is set low. If it is you'll hear a big difference.

[ronjones]

Originally Posted by Moefiz

Not meaning to hijack a thread but I have a question also...

Lastnight was the first time I looked at a Blu-ray using my PS 3 in the bedroom, there is no sound system just PS hooked up straight to the TV..anyway was looking at Slumdog Millionaire and the sound was really low, had to take the Sony tv volume up to 20 to here comfortably...is that normal or do I have my audio setting wrong...

Originally Posted by neos_peace

You'll want to bring up the PS3 options part in movie, hit the triangle I belive. There is a sound setting you might want to check ans see if that is set low. If it is you'll hear a big difference.

Just be careful not to increase the volume via the PS3 menu too much as you will get distortion on the loudest audio passages of some discs.

[neos_peace]

Originally Posted by ronjones

Just be careful not to increase the volume via the PS3 menu too much as you will get distortion on the loudest audio passages of some discs.

agreed

[scweb13]

Originally Posted by backtothecanvas

I was curious and looking around my PS3 display settings today and noticed a few items i was not familiar with. So i figured id see if anyone on here could explain them . . . First one was the

- "RGB Full Range (HDMI)" option is set to "limited" instead of "full". i guess im curious as to what this is and why do i only want "limited" of it?

- Next is "Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr Super White (HDMI)" option is set to "off". Again not sure what this means or what benefits "on" might add.

- Lastly is the "Cross Color Reduction Filter" option is set to "off". Just wondering what this is as well!!

Thank you for all your time as always. Sometimes i hope that i have been missing out on a single setting that could make things so much better visually or sonically! I think i recall possibly my TV having a few of these settings as well . . .

from IGN "Recommended PS3 Settings"

RGB Full Range (HDMI) is probably the least well understood option. You actually want to set this to "limited". As I said previously, RGB should be used for computer signals (ie. games on the PS3, but not video). This whole thing is all about Above White (aka Whiter-than-White/ WTW) and Below Black (aka Blacker-than-Black/ BTB) information. In video, the camera is set for a certain "white level" prior to recording. This is meant to inform the camera what the brightest, whitest object on screen will be and setting it keeps colours and levels looking consistent throughout the film. But occassionally, there will be something slightly brighter than the level set as "white" in the "white balance" calibration of the camera. Video signals include some "headroom" so that this information is still preserved in the recording. If it were discarded, then that "whiter-than-white" information would be "clipped" and when you watched it back, it would look strange because you would see a solid "block" of white in that area of the picture, rather than a natural blend of white tones. Similarly, on the opposite end of the scale, a certain absence of light is defined as "black", but there can occassionally be even less light in certain recordings and these would appear as "black-than-black". Again, there is some room provided below the video black level so that this information is preserved and you do not end up with just a "block" of black where there ought to be some very slight variations.

But computer signals are different. There are not such occassional "mistakes" as when filming real world content with a camera. Everything is strictly defined within the computer (or game) and there is never anything "white-than-white" or "blacker-than-black".

Setting the RGB setting to "limited" keeps game images "perfect" in this way. There is no Above White or Below Black being sent and when something is supposed to be black, it will appear black on your TV and something that is supposed to be white will appear white.

If you set it to "full" and play a game, black will appear as dark grey and white will appear as light grey. This is because with RGB set to "full" there is additional information being sent above white and below black - but there is nothing actually there in the game! Your TV will "see" this extra information though and "leave room" above white and below black, thereby making both appear grey instead!

So why even have this option? Because some people are connecting their PS3 to a computer monitor or a projector that acts like a computer monitor rather than a TV and will only accept a RGB signal. With such displays, you will have to set the BD/DVD Video Output Format to RGB or Auto rather than YCbCr and when you do so, you're then going to want that Above White and Below Black information because the video signal will contain that type of information and this is the only way to preserve it

For a TV though, you will have the BD/DVD Video Output Format set to YCbCr as we discussed before and this leaves you free to set the RGB Full Range option to "limited" and never have to worry about changing settings in your PS3 Video will come out of the PS3 as YCbCr as it should and PS3 games will come out as RGB as they should If you are using a computer monitor or a projector that only works with RGB signals though, then you will need to switch this RGB option back and forth depending on the content. "Full" for movies and video content and "Limited" for games