Sony Blu-ray in August (rumors of June release false)

[Sony1]

Sony wont be shipping its player until mid August now!

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/13501

[AV_Integrated]

My understanding is that is exactly what SonyStyle has said for quite a while and despite what it says, rumors are from the stores that it likely still will make a late June appearance. There is a lot of decent info on AVS Forum about this and people who have been watching all websites closely for accurate info on the true release date.

Either way, the Samsung was always expected to truly be the first Blu-ray player released to the market.

[thunderhawk]

What?!

If they continue doing this, they will have another element from the beta vs vhs war in play here... The advantage of being in the market longer...

Just launch damnit!


Sorry... But this aint very nice

Either way, the Samsung was always expected to truly be the first Blu-ray player released to the market.

Well.. I guess we're lucky... lol

[JTK]

Good.

I'd rather see a delay if it means quality control.

What's the rush, quite honestly? We're still in first generation/early adopter territory for a long time to come anyways.

[zombie]

I changed the title as to not alarm others the way it first did for me. The Sony player has been listed with an August 15 release date for a long time now. There were rumors of a late June release but that's all they were, rumors.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by nyg

I changed the title as to not alarm others the way it first did for me. The Sony player has been listed with an August 15 release date for a long time now. There were rumors of a late June release but that's all they were, rumors.

That's what I thought I'd remembered.

August is just fine.

[Sony1]

Meanwhile, HD DVD keeps rolling, RCA upping the anti with its own HD DVD player and new release HD DVD movies to boot!! WHERE THE HELL IS BLU-RAY AT ALREADY???? I am sorry but the more ground lost here to HD DVD the worce it gets for Blu-ray. Who is in charge of Marketing Blu-ray anyway? What a discrace, I seriously think Sony is going to loose this battle, and its going to start getting ugly when more and more HD DVD titles start pooring out! The price is now 1,000$ that is so pathetic I cant believe theu are going to do this and then release the PS3 in 4 months for 499$ its just terrible buisness practice.

[AV_Integrated]

People still confuse SONY & Blu-ray as being the only flavor of the month.

The RCA, which is a rebadged Toshiba player is NOT 'its own HD-DVD player'. It is the same HD-DVD player that a lot of people have already been complaining about.

The Sony player, (perhaps) coming out in mid-August, is right on schedule. The SAMSUNG Blu-ray player, is still expected on June 25th along with several movies from Sony.

The Sony Blu-ray player, I saw, in real life, TODAY, at Sony Style at the Tysons Corner mall in Virginia. I had my two year old with me and there are signs on it that ask people not to play with this early release model - but it was there, and WAS hooked up to the Qualia display via HDMI at 1080i. Playing the demo material looked every bit as good as HD-DVD IMO. But, like I said, I didn't really get to run it through its paces.

Anyway, people really need to unbundle their panties.

[Sony1]

Please, all Panties aside most people who have an High Def telivision don't have a Quala line. Lets be honest here Blu-ray is not on time! Its almost out of time if you ask me, and its starting to get ugly with Microsoft now backing HD DVD tenfold. I thought Blu-ray was going to be the winner here but with all the delay, and Panasonic furious over the PS3 pricing it spells trouble in the Blu-ray camp. I got to tell you LG is starting to jump ship and so is Dell offering multi HD DVD Blu-ray players and drives upcoming. I think this PS3 price release is a fiasco that has gotten out of controll for Sony, and now things are going south, time will tell soon enough!

[JTK]

Sony1, I think you've been reading too much Micrsoft propoganda, FUD, and misinformation.

Settle down!

This "OH NOES! TEHY SKY ISZA FALLING!!!!" routine of yours just isn't necessary, nor is it reality.

[zombie]

Sony1:

While it's true HD DVD has got the headstart, that's always been expected to be the case. Both sides have seen their share of delays but HD DVD was always said to be coming first. I think those that doubt the PS3 will be a big plus for the Blu-ray format are going to be in for a rude awakening starting this fall and moving into all of next year. To be overly concerned about the price difference in the formats is premature. The masses aren't gobbling up HD DVD players at $500 each, early adopters are. These are the very same kind of people that will be buying BD players whether they cost $1000 or $1800. All parties involved realize the battle hasn't even started yet. When the need comes for Blu-ray to be more competitively priced, you can bet your ass it will be. Its supporting companies will have no choice. One should have no doubt, Sony and others are in this to win it. I'm expecting a lot of good surprises from the BD side over the next 6-12 months which will deliver a knockout punch to HD DVD. As you say, time will tell. You are certainly free to believe Blu-ray is doomed but IMO you're underestimating the massive support BD has versus HD DVD. Toshiba has been quite incompetent where it matters most for a new format, in advertising. Do the HD DVD players and discs stand out at your local Walmarts and Best Buys? Or are they very easy to miss even when you're specifically looking for them? Check out the other thread here which shows the displays Blu-ray will be using for discs. They are bright blue and large. There's no way anyone could miss them. This kind of promotion is grade school thinking yet Toshiba has no clue. Where are the other companies and their HD DVD players? Don't you find it odd that no one is joining them yet? Rebadged Toshiba's with the RCA brand are a joke. I mean, real support. There's none to be found. Whereas we have tons of info on Sony, Samsung, Pioneer, and Panasonic BD players. Two of which may not come out till fall. Will someone other than Toshiba have an HD DVD player out by Christmas? I keep hearing its supporters stating that Sanyo is planning a player but I've yet to read anything the slightest bit concrete. Sanyo has been pretty quite lately. While I believe there's a chance for both formats to survive and thrive, I am far more confident Blu-ray will emerge victorious over the next year.

[Sony1]

NYG, you might be right about the RCA, I have never owned one of their products to tell you the truth, but the war is ON! What the hell is Blu-ray waiting for? You know what I am taking about, this has been 3 years coming and by next year 2007 42%of all American housholds will have an High Definition TV in their house. This delay is costly, and I don't think to badly of the Toshiba A1 it just takes forever to load a disk, and doesn't support 1080P. However what happens when they do have aplayer that supports 1080P? For 499$? What will Blu-ray do then? This is what conserns me the most. The major bennifit of Blu-ray is the capacity, and 1080P, if HD DVD comes out with a player that offers that, and can produce discs at a fraction of Blu-ray than its like Microsoft said, its over, before it started.

[The Don]

RCA is garbage...I don't even consider them in this....especially since they just basically take the Toshiba model and repackage it...

Toshiba is the only worthy company putting out HD DVD....

if anyone purchases an RCA HD DVD player....by the time BD players start hitting the shelves....people will begin returning their defected RCA models (it's what RCA is known for) and then seeing they bought the inferior product...

then they'll likely wait to jump into the HD DVD/BD line of fire....likely another year or 2....

I was talking to a customer at sears because he asked about HD DVD's available for his player he just purchased....they said they only have 3 movies...

I told him that they won't have that many as they only really have Universal backing them and a few others.....but the BD players are going to have 3 movies to every 2 that HD DVD has....

his response was.....yeah...that's what I have...blu-ray.....I was like, no...blu-ray isn't out yet...hd-dvd has toshiba...rca and a few other crappy brands...but toshiba is pretty good....

he asked what BD has....lolol..

I said...Sony, Pioneer, JVC, Samsung, LG, Panasonic, Zenith etc. etc.....he felt stupid and said..."oh"...

most of the people purchasing don't even know what they are buying...they just figure they are getting a top of the line HD DVD player.....they think the formats are the same and don't realize one of the formats will lose......(maybe there won't be a loser, but that's what they want you to think)

[Sony1]

"RCA is garbage" I don't disagree with that, but so is Samsung. The problem is HD DVD is rolling, sales are going better than expected and movies are coming from both Warner and Universal. Sony should have squashed them when they had the chance, now the flood gates are open and Panasonic is going to go against Sony any day now and join HD DVD, I can see it coming with this undercutting with the PS3 and other camps offering Multi HD DVD and Blu-ray drives. I wouldn't be suprised if Samsung delays their players in late June. There are big problems in the Blu-ray camp, and no one is talking about it!

[zombie]

Well I personally think you are worried for nothing but whatever, to each his own. If you think 10,000-20,000 HD DVD players sold is enough to kill the Blu-ray format I don't know what more I can say to convince you that this means nothing at this point.

[zombie]

Originally Posted by Sony1

Panasonic is going to go against Sony any day now and join HD DVD

You are so wrong it's laughable. Matsushita, the company that owns Panasonic has been the single most outspoken proponent of Blu-ray that there is. They talk even more pro-BD than Sony does. That's no joke. Do a search on this forum, AVS, google, etc and you'll see I'm right.

[Sony1]

That was before the price release of the PS3, undercutting the price that Panasonic and Samsung are going to be offering their players by 500$. Panaisonic is not happy about it, it neither is Samsung. Things might appear to be rosey on the surface at AVS forum, but allot different in Japan, and Korea.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by Sony1

That was before the price release of the PS3, undercutting the price that Panasonic and Samsung are going to be offering their players by 500$. Panaisonic is not happy about it, it neither is Samsung. Things might appear to be rosey on the surface at AVS forum, but allot different in Japan, and Korea.

What the hell are you talking about? AVS is about the most pro HD-DVD forum you could find anywhere on the Internet. You have Microsoft employees out in the open, constantly posting propoganda and spin to their heart's content, while being backed up by plants and other unofficial, anonymous screen names.

You couldn't BE further from reality! Anyone who's been to AVS is laughing at you right now!


We should get your screen named changed to "FUD", because that's all you are posting in this thread.

I KNOW you can't do it, but I defy you to start backing up all of these things you're saying, starting with this BS lie that Panasonic might jump ship to HD-DVD.

Honest to God: You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

You do realize that Panasonic had a major hand in the development of BR in the first place?

That's what's so frustrating about this: Too many ignorant people think it's all Sony and about Sony, but it simply is not the case.

If you can't start posting meaningful material that can be backed up with concrete sources and data...do yourself and all of us a favor and please stop posting until you can.

This thread is just overloaded with trash from you. I've never seen one person generate so much needless hyperbole, angst, and pure nonsense based on absolutely nothing in such a short amount of space like you have.

If you can't do better than this, the mods have my vote to send you on your way.


The Blu-Ray products have even hit the streets yet and already we have people making these grandiosee, doom'n'gloom proclamations based off nothing more than some BS they read off the Internet somewhere.

Just unbelievable.

[mainman]

I dont think Panasonic will defect to Hd-dvd. It is not that easy, because the release of BD is near, and they probably invested alot in BD, production costs and research and development costs etc.


And about Samsung, werent they supporting both sides? I heard rumors that they were producing a player that can play both HD-dvd and BD. It was a while ago that I heard this though, is this true?

[zombie]

Originally Posted by mainman

And about Samsung, werent they supporting both sides? I heard rumors that they were producing a player that can play both HD-dvd and BD. It was a while ago that I heard this though, is this true?

Samsung was the first to say they wanted to make a dual format player but apparently there are provisions in their agreement with the BDA that don't allow for this. They have since abandoned the concept. Soon after LG stated that they were considering a dual format player. That seems to have gone by the wasteside as well. I haven't read any new information from either company in awhile. There's plenty of speculation on some forums though but that's all it is, speculation. Nothing has been officially announced and quite frankly I don't expect anything to happen this year at all.