Tomb Raider UK blu-ray (BD50, AVC Encode, No lossless Sound)

[stargazeruk]

I just got this movie today and it has no lossless sound on the disk what so ever. Just a standard DTS and DD Track. But the video has been AVC encoded.

The packaging on the other hand has the Dolby TrueHD logo on it. Someone has screwed up here.

[xton]

languages included,please?
Thanks

[Sky_Captain]

Could give a stuff about the audio, the fact that it's an AVC transfer over the US MPEG2 is bonus enough.

[stargazeruk]

Originally Posted by xton

languages included,please?
Thanks

Subs and audio listed on the blu-ray cover is as follows

Audio: English DTS 5.1 (1.5Mbps), English DD5.1 (640K), Czech, French, Hungarian, Spanish, Polish

Subs: English, English SHD, Crotian, Czech, Danish, Finnish, French, Greek, Hebrew, Hungarian, Icelandic, Norwegian, Polish, Portguese, Spanish, Swedish.

[trans22]

I've just ordered this from PLAY.COM a few days ago, what does the DTS track sound like compared to the DOLBY DIGITAL?

[tkbryant]

Originally Posted by stargazeruk

Subs and audio listed on the blu-ray cover is as follows

Audio: English DTS 5.1 (1.5Mbps), English DD5.1 (640K), Czech, French, Hungarian, Spanish, Polish

Subs: English, English SHD, Crotian, Czech, Danish, Finnish, French, Greek, Hebrew, Hungarian, Icelandic, Norwegian, Polish, Portguese, Spanish, Swedish.

I thought regular old DTS was 768 kbps? Is the 1.5 mbps sec readout verified? If so, that should sound awesome.

[steve_dave]

Originally Posted by tkbryant

I thought regular old DTS was 768 kbps? Is the 1.5 mbps sec readout verified? If so, that should sound awesome.

DTS lossy can have up to 1.5mbs bit rate.

A lot of early US DVDs offered 1.5mbs DTS while current releases offer 768kbs DTS.

Hong Kong, Thailand, and Korean DVDs still offer 1.5mbs DTS.

BDs almost always offer 1.5mbs DTS but some could have lower bit rates. However, all DTS-HD Master Audio lossless tracks so far have offered a 1.5mbs DTS lossy core.

[tkbryant]

I'm definitely interested now. I can deal with DTS @ that bitrate. What's the average bit-rate for the video encode? I'm a big Lara Croft/Tomb Raider fan.

Region free?

[ricster]

Originally Posted by tkbryant

I'm definitely interested now. I can deal with DTS @ that bitrate. What's the average bit-rate for the video encode? I'm a big Lara Croft/Tomb Raider fan.

Region free?

Yes region free and here's a screenshot.

[tkbryant]

Just ordered. Thanks for the shot & info!

[Damage Inc.]

Just weak there can't be top-notch quality in every aspect for such a film.
They should release an amazing pack of the two films.
And use branching for the first at least. :P

So would this be the actual Director's Cut Simon West has been mentioning then?

[steve_dave]

Not a director's cut just a remastered release from Paramount that changes the video codec from MPEG2 to AVC and the disc from a BD25 to a BD50 to allow for a better video bit-rate.

[Sky_Captain]

Eh? Director's Cut?

[Damage Inc.]

Originally Posted by steve_dave

Not a director's cut just a remastered release from Paramount that changes the video codec from MPEG2 to AVC and the disc from a BD25 to a BD50 to allow for a better video bit-rate.

They should definitely update the artwork then.
As it, apparently as stated before shows a 'TrueHD'-logo, but also 'Uncut Edition'.
So, very misleading... and I'll pass then... :\

[steve_dave]

Actually for the UK, this is an uncut edition. The film was trimmed to remove sounds & a scene of a butterfly knife, a headbutt, and a throat chop so it could get a 12 certificate. These scenes are restored for this new UK Blu-ray Disc which now has a 15 certificate.

And uncut does not mean director's cut unless it specifically says so on the package. I.E. Director's Uncut Edition or Director's Cut.

[Damage Inc.]

Originally Posted by steve_dave

Actually for the UK, this is an uncut edition. The film was trimmed to remove sounds & a scene of a butterfly knife, a headbutt, and a throat chop so it could get a 12 certificate. These scenes are restored for this new UK Blu-ray Disc which now has a 15 certificate.

And uncut does not mean director's cut unless it specifically says so on the package. I.E. Director's Uncut Edition or Director's Cut.

Yeah OK, so this is like "didn't remove the harsher shots" or something in that sense.
It indeed could use a little more of that.
Cause I recently reviewed both the 'Tomb Raider'-films
and noticed the second was quite a bit harsher and the first was little "sweeter".

Edit:
Actually, I'm saying this now, but who knows in the Dutch version those shots have been left in?
then again, it's 6+ like I mentioned after this part, so probably not...

The ratings on my Dutch DVDs are pretty well done,
the first basically being "6 years and older" and the second "12+".
So that made sense to me and it surprised me that they didn't just slap on 6+ or 12+ for both the same,
just because they're similar movies, it seems like they actually looked at it.

But that's cool then, I might consider it Uncut,
but I might still wait for a possible Director's Cut or box of both films.
And it also depends what the quality will turn out to be overall.
Cause the DVDs are quite excellent to watch, there's no rush to me.

[trans22]

Originally Posted by tkbryant

Just ordered. Thanks for the shot & info!

I just got this today and to be honest it's no better than the dvd in my opinion, the DTS track is terrible, easily the worst DTS track i've ever heard, the picture looks no better than an upscaled dvd.

[Satans Puppet]

Booo I had high hopes for this... will wait for other regions to release and hope for the best

[Damage Inc.]

Originally Posted by trans22

I just got this today and to be honest it's no better than the dvd in my opinion, the DTS track is terrible, easily the worst DTS track i've ever heard, the picture looks no better than an upscaled dvd.

Then I suppose it is a simple DVD-to-BD or something, even if uncut.
I liked the Dolby Digital on the DVDs though, didn't annoy me or anything like often happens.
Maybe it's been blown up changing it to DTS...
It ought to be DTS in an action-movie though, but who knows something went wrong this time.

[trans22]

Originally Posted by Damage Inc.

Then I suppose it is a simple DVD-to-BD or something, even if uncut.
I liked the Dolby Digital on the DVDs though, didn't annoy me or anything like often happens.
Maybe it's been blown up changing it to DTS...
It ought to be DTS in an action-movie though, but who knows something went wrong this time.

It still has a DOLBY DIGITAL 5.1 (640KBPS) track which sounds better than the DTS track in my opinion, but the overall disc just isn't worth the upgrade. Yes i agree that DTS should be used for action films but the DTS track on this disc simply has no power compared to X-MEN 2, DOOM, HELLBOY 2 ETC.