Plasmas and glare compared to Mitsubishi WS-55313? - Blu-ray Forum

acritzer · 09-07-2009, 08:43 PM

I know generally speaking LCD's are supposed to be better for bright rooms. However, I'm tempted by Plasmas picture quality and price. Currently we have an older Mitsubishi 55'' rear projection HDTV, WS-55313.

Any idea if glare would be worse on a plasma compared to what we have now. We have a sunny room, with plenty of windows. During the day it can be tough to watch (depending on the weather and time of day), but we do most of our movies and extended viewing at night.

The point is, if the viewing wouldn't be worse when considering brightness and glare I might be more tempted to entertain a plasma purchase. If it's going to be worse than what I have now, I'll have to look into an alternative.

acritzer · 09-08-2009, 12:12 AM

Anybody have input on this?

acritzer · 09-08-2009, 12:17 AM

Posted this in the general display forum, but no feedback so I thought I'd try here.

Basically I'm trying to find out if glare and picture brightness will be worse than my current set, the WS-55313 (older projection HDTV). Our room is full of windows and can be quite bright. However, it's something that we put up with now and unless the plasma is likely to be worse than what I have, I'd probably like to get one because of price and overall picture quality. Most of our main viewing is at night anyway.

I know that generall LCD's are usually better for bright rooms, but I'm partial to plasma. Anyone familiar with my current set, or something like it? It's got one of those screen protectors on it, and it's very reflective.

Thanks.

My_Two_Cents · 09-08-2009, 12:40 AM

Worse? I don't think so, but it probably won't be any better like an LCD. If you can live with what you have, and watch most TV at night, then you should be fine with a good plasma. I've got 3, and the only glare problem I have is with the one in my living room during sunny days (lots of windows without blinds). Since it's really only watched at night, it's not that big of a deal.

Beta Man · 09-08-2009, 12:49 AM

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acritzer · 09-08-2009, 01:00 AM

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acritzer · 09-08-2009, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Ricshoe

Worse? I don't think so, but it probably won't be any better like an LCD. If you can live with what you have, and watch most TV at night, then you should be fine with a good plasma. I've got 3, and the only glare problem I have is with the one in my living room during sunny days (lots of windows without blinds). Since it's really only watched at night, it's not that big of a deal.

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BluCheez · 09-08-2009, 03:50 AM

About 18 months ago I went after the best 46" display I could buy and I was pointed to an LCD. So, I bought it. Today, my brother went into the same high end store that pointed me to the LCD and now they are saying that plasma PQ is far superior. No contest. Okay, I'm thinking... what about glare. The video boys are saying that the newer plasmas have dealt with glare issues to the point where it is no longer a concern. Neither is burn in.

Do some more research. It looks like plasmas are no longer to be afraid of. The best part is that most plasmas run cheaper than their LCD counter parts.

Beta Man · 09-08-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BluCheez

The video boys are saying that the newer plasmas have dealt with glare issues to the point where it is no longer a concern. Neither is burn in.

Do some more research..

The problem is.... depending on where he does his research, he could just be gathering bad information!

Personally, I don't have a Plasma.... but greatly prefer them over LCDs....

If glare is a problem, and people tout LCD because you can watch it in direct light (I can't watch either of mine with sun coming through the windows....so I don't know where people get this whole "LCD can be viewed in bright rooms" crap from) I would rather put up a curtain to achieve the best possible PQ

Monkey · 09-08-2009, 07:01 PM

I'd go with an LCD if you have glare problems. The difference in enjoyment versus owning a Plasma will be huge.

syncguy · 09-10-2009, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Monkey

I'd go with an LCD if you have glare problems. The difference in enjoyment versus owning a Plasma will be huge.

Yes, glare is a key issue with plasmas if you are in a room with large windows. If it is only night time TV, it is okay. You need to check your room and the seating arrangement and make a decision.

Johnny Vinyl · 09-10-2009, 08:19 AM

I haven't read a discussion about "glare" on Plasmas for quite a while.

Personally I wouldn't let it bother you or prevent you from buying a plasma, if that's the technology you prefer. In the 50 or 60 years we had CRT's we lived with glare and closed the curtains if we had any. Now all of a sudden glare becomes an issue? Oh yeah, that's because of the LCD fanboys making it an issue! I love LCD too and not knocking it..just trying to make a point.

The Plasma fanboys have retorted with their own advantage, which is better viewing angles. I prefer to say no loss of picture quality from any angle. LCD's can't claim that advantage.

Unless your watching a plasma during the day in the desert (don't forget you'll need a gas-powered generator)...forget about the glare issue!

John

syncguy · 09-10-2009, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by John72953

I haven't read a discussion about "glare" on Plasmas for quite a while.

Personally I wouldn't let it bother you or prevent you from buying a plasma, if that's the technology you prefer. In the 50 or 60 years we had CRT's we lived with glare and closed the curtains if we had any. Now all of a sudden glare becomes an issue? Oh yeah, that's because of the LCD fanboys making it an issue! I love LCD too and not knocking it..just trying to make a point.

The Plasma fanboys have retorted with their own advantage, which is better viewing angles. I prefer to say no loss of picture quality from any angle. LCD's can't claim that advantage.

Unless your watching a plasma during the day in the desert (don't forget you'll need a gas-powered generator)...forget about the glare issue!

John

Okay. Although I asked OP to consider glare, I am not a LCD fanboy.

In fact, I have plasma and I need to close curtains to watch during the day. I will seriously consider this issue when I purchase our next TV. Hope plasma glare issue will get better by then.

acritzer · 09-10-2009, 12:02 PM

Let me see if I can clarify a bit. I'm not trying to create a plasma vs. LCD discussion. What I'm interested in knowing is, how does plasma glare compare to what I have now.

-We have a lot of windows in the room.
-Glare is an issue with our current set, from time to time. It has a screen protector on it as well, which reflects a lot of light.
-However, we do have blinds for some of the windows and most of our extended viewing is done at night. The glare as is, does not make us crazy.

Without being able to haul in a plasma for in room testing I'm just trying to find out if a plasma is likely to be better, worse, or the same than what I have now.

Happy_Evil_Dude · 09-10-2009, 01:04 PM

They say Laser TVs trump both LCD and Plasma in terms of quality. Mitsubishi controls the technology and have currently only one TV available, the 65" LaserVue L65-A90 which came out late last year.

acritzer · 09-10-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy_Evil_Dude

They say Laser TVs trump both LCD and Plasma in terms of quality. Mitsubishi controls the technology and have currently only one TV available, the 65" LaserVue L65-A90 which came out late last year.

Okay, not helpful for the thread, but I'll keep that in mind.

aramis109 · 09-10-2009, 03:17 PM

Having recently come from an LCD to a plasma, I'm going to be honest and say that the glare is a little worse. Even with the anti-glare coating, I can see reflections much moreso than just the dull "light reflection" I got on the screen with the LCD.

However, the LCD had to have the light sensor turned on to up the brightness during the day, and I don't have to mess with that at all with the plasma. Between the better viewing angles and the brighter display I really don't have any issues with glare. I can see that it is worse but when I just watch the show it's not an issue at all. It was something I was concerned with as well since we have windows to the sides and behind my viewing area.

09-07-2009, 08:43 PM	#1
acritzer Expert Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Cincinnati, OH Home Theater Gallery:15 Blu-ray collection:32 Trading Score:1	Plasmas and glare compared to Mitsubishi WS-55313? I know generally speaking LCD's are supposed to be better for bright rooms. However, I'm tempted by Plasmas picture quality and price. Currently we have an older Mitsubishi 55'' rear projection HDTV, WS-55313. Any idea if glare would be worse on a plasma compared to what we have now. We have a sunny room, with plenty of windows. During the day it can be tough to watch (depending on the weather and time of day), but we do most of our movies and extended viewing at night. The point is, if the viewing wouldn't be worse when considering brightness and glare I might be more tempted to entertain a plasma purchase. If it's going to be worse than what I have now, I'll have to look into an alternative.

09-08-2009, 12:17 AM	#3
acritzer Expert Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Cincinnati, OH Home Theater Gallery:15 Blu-ray collection:32 Trading Score:1	Plasma glare compared to Mit. WS-55313? Posted this in the general display forum, but no feedback so I thought I'd try here. Basically I'm trying to find out if glare and picture brightness will be worse than my current set, the WS-55313 (older projection HDTV). Our room is full of windows and can be quite bright. However, it's something that we put up with now and unless the plasma is likely to be worse than what I have, I'd probably like to get one because of price and overall picture quality. Most of our main viewing is at night anyway. I know that generall LCD's are usually better for bright rooms, but I'm partial to plasma. Anyone familiar with my current set, or something like it? It's got one of those screen protectors on it, and it's very reflective. Thanks.

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09-08-2009, 12:12 AM	#2
acritzer Expert Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Cincinnati, OH Home Theater Gallery:15 Blu-ray collection:32 Trading Score:1	Anybody have input on this?

09-08-2009, 12:40 AM	#4
My_Two_Cents Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Wherever I may roam.... Home Theater Gallery:40 4K collection:35 Blu-ray collection:507 DVD collection:19 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:4	Worse? I don't think so, but it probably won't be any better like an LCD. If you can live with what you have, and watch most TV at night, then you should be fine with a good plasma. I've got 3, and the only glare problem I have is with the one in my living room during sunny days (lots of windows without blinds). Since it's really only watched at night, it's not that big of a deal.

09-08-2009, 03:50 AM	#8
BluCheez Senior Member Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Winnipeg, Canada Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:80 Blu-ray reviews:18	About 18 months ago I went after the best 46" display I could buy and I was pointed to an LCD. So, I bought it. Today, my brother went into the same high end store that pointed me to the LCD and now they are saying that plasma PQ is far superior. No contest. Okay, I'm thinking... what about glare. The video boys are saying that the newer plasmas have dealt with glare issues to the point where it is no longer a concern. Neither is burn in. Do some more research. It looks like plasmas are no longer to be afraid of. The best part is that most plasmas run cheaper than their LCD counter parts.

09-08-2009, 07:01 PM	#10
Monkey Blu-ray Knight Member since:Sep 2006 Trading Score:31	I'd go with an LCD if you have glare problems. The difference in enjoyment versus owning a Plasma will be huge.

09-10-2009, 08:19 AM	#12
Johnny Vinyl Moderator Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:At the crossroad of Analogue Dr & 2CH Ave Home Theater Gallery:19 Blu-ray collection:205 DVD collection:7 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:8	I haven't read a discussion about "glare" on Plasmas for quite a while. Personally I wouldn't let it bother you or prevent you from buying a plasma, if that's the technology you prefer. In the 50 or 60 years we had CRT's we lived with glare and closed the curtains if we had any. Now all of a sudden glare becomes an issue? Oh yeah, that's because of the LCD fanboys making it an issue! I love LCD too and not knocking it..just trying to make a point. The Plasma fanboys have retorted with their own advantage, which is better viewing angles. I prefer to say no loss of picture quality from any angle. LCD's can't claim that advantage. Unless your watching a plasma during the day in the desert (don't forget you'll need a gas-powered generator)...forget about the glare issue! John

09-10-2009, 12:02 PM	#14
acritzer Expert Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Cincinnati, OH Home Theater Gallery:15 Blu-ray collection:32 Trading Score:1	Let me see if I can clarify a bit. I'm not trying to create a plasma vs. LCD discussion. What I'm interested in knowing is, how does plasma glare compare to what I have now. -We have a lot of windows in the room. -Glare is an issue with our current set, from time to time. It has a screen protector on it as well, which reflects a lot of light. -However, we do have blinds for some of the windows and most of our extended viewing is done at night. The glare as is, does not make us crazy. Without being able to haul in a plasma for in room testing I'm just trying to find out if a plasma is likely to be better, worse, or the same than what I have now.

09-10-2009, 01:04 PM	#15
Happy_Evil_Dude Senior Member Top contributor Member since:May 2009 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:138 Blu-ray reviews:3	They say Laser TVs trump both LCD and Plasma in terms of quality. Mitsubishi controls the technology and have currently only one TV available, the 65" LaserVue L65-A90 which came out late last year.

09-10-2009, 03:17 PM	#17
aramis109 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Milwaukee, WI Home Theater Gallery:10 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:360 Trading Score:18	Having recently come from an LCD to a plasma, I'm going to be honest and say that the glare is a little worse. Even with the anti-glare coating, I can see reflections much moreso than just the dull "light reflection" I got on the screen with the LCD. However, the LCD had to have the light sensor turned on to up the brightness during the day, and I don't have to mess with that at all with the plasma. Between the better viewing angles and the brighter display I really don't have any issues with glare. I can see that it is worse but when I just watch the show it's not an issue at all. It was something I was concerned with as well since we have windows to the sides and behind my viewing area.

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