lethal weapon 1 & 2 PQ and AQ - Blu-ray Forum

zeze · 09-12-2009, 01:56 AM

Hows the PQ and AQ on Lethal Weapon 1 & 2? Is it as bad as what the reviews on this site says. I have never seen this movie, but if the PQ and AQ sucks I won't get it.

erikilla · 09-12-2009, 01:58 AM

Not sure, but I would wait until they release the extended versions of all four films on blu-ray. They released them on DVD about 10 years ago and they're fantastic!

Nick VanWilder · 09-12-2009, 02:22 AM

i own the two movies and they are an ok transfer

mozen_1ne · 09-12-2009, 02:27 AM

lethal weapon is as bad as the review, don't know about part two.

andyman1970 · 09-12-2009, 02:29 AM

I believe both these movies were released early in the life of Blu-ray so I would expect re-releases at some point and time.

captainjoe · 09-12-2009, 02:48 AM

The transfer of the first is dated but doesn't look too bad however the second film has awful stair stepping and looks atrocious. I'd wait until they re-release them in new transfers

benricci · 09-12-2009, 03:02 AM

They're not that bad.

Canada · 09-15-2009, 12:38 AM

I would wait for the Directors Cuts unless you don't have the DVD's.

GGX · 09-15-2009, 12:39 AM

Great movies. Although the current Blu-ray versions are pretty bad.

AKORIS · 09-15-2009, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by andyman1970

I believe both these movies were released early in the life of Blu-ray so I would expect re-releases at some point and time.

maybe. When dvd first came out the LETHAL WEAPON films were released early in the game and then immediately after directors cut versions came out--all were early releases and not very impressive transfers.

Now we have the same thing with the blus-- not very impressive either but I'd be surprised if new versions came out anytime soon--

BStecke · 09-15-2009, 12:41 AM

The director's cut DVD's actually have 1.5 mbps DTS audio vs the 640kbps DD that's on the Blu-rays.

Plus, I believe at least the first one is a 1080i upconvert. I'm trying to find the article about it.

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Also problematic, like the HD DVD before it, Warner authored this Blu-ray disc from an older HD master originally transferred in 1080i format and only recently deinterlaced to 1080p in the studio. Unfortunately, at the time the master was struck, heavy vertical domain filtering was applied to reduce the appearance of aliasing and interlace artifacts on 1080i TVs. The process has the side effects of losing vertical resolution detail and introducing jagged artifacts and shimmer in diagonal lines when reassembled to 1080p or other progressive resolutions. It's still better than standard DVD, but not nearly as good as the best that High Definition can deliver.

That's from DVD Talk. There was another site that went into it a little more, but I can't for the life of me find it.

Elvis · 09-15-2009, 01:35 AM

They could use some good grain scrubbing!

Hi-Def Steve · 09-15-2009, 03:32 AM

I'm waiting for an eventual boxset with all 4 of them.

Lyle_JP · 09-15-2009, 03:34 AM

Part one actually looks excellent; exactly what this movie has always looked like, but with much more detail. This is not a spectacular looking movie but it looks about as good as you can ask on blu.

Two is a whole different story. The transfer had been vertically reduced to 1440 and then improperly expanded back out to 1920, leaving behind obvious stair-stepping artifacts. Whatever merits the transfer may have, this defect makes it unwatchable, IMO. In fact, I find the Director's cut DVD upscaled to HD to be preferable.

LordCrumb · 09-15-2009, 03:37 AM

I think they look crap, the print is dirty as hell IMO.

syncguy · 09-15-2009, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Hi-Def Steve

I'm waiting for an eventual boxset with all 4 of them.

Many people, including myself, are resisting purchase of LW until the new transfer. Hope to get an excellent transfer to cherish these classics.

tbizzle · 09-15-2009, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syncguy

Many people, including myself, are resisting purchase of LW until the new transfer. Hope to get an excellent transfer to cherish these classics.

Hell yeah, that would be the best box set ever.

A lil off topic, are there Directors Cuts for all 4 on DVD? I just looked at my DVD's and only 2 and 3 say Directors Cut (the chrome colored ones). The first one is the silver one, the fourth is the red one

JRS03 · 09-15-2009, 11:54 AM

There was never a directors cut released for the 4th one. Only the first thru thirds to my knowledge.

I-Candy · 09-15-2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Elvis

They could use some good grain scrubbing!

+1

Adam_ME · 09-15-2009, 12:38 PM

The first one's alright. The second one has some serious issues with the aforementioned "stair stepping". Just look at the closing credits to see how bad it is.

I just hope if/when WB reissues these titles, they still offer the theatrical cuts. I prefer those to the DCs. And BTW, where is Legal Wreckin 3 on Blu-ray? It's a cheesy flick, but I'd still like to have it.

09-12-2009, 01:56 AM	#1
zeze Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Aug 2009 4K collection:599 Blu-ray collection:7664 DVD collection:123 Trading Score:297	lethal weapon 1 & 2 PQ and AQ Hows the PQ and AQ on Lethal Weapon 1 & 2? Is it as bad as what the reviews on this site says. I have never seen this movie, but if the PQ and AQ sucks I won't get it.

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09-12-2009, 01:58 AM	#2
erikilla Senior Member Member since:Sep 2009	Not sure, but I would wait until they release the extended versions of all four films on blu-ray. They released them on DVD about 10 years ago and they're fantastic!

09-12-2009, 02:22 AM	#3
Nick VanWilder Active Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:TX Home Theater Gallery:9 4K collection:238 Blu-ray collection:754 DVD collection:82 iTunes collection:5 Blu-ray reviews:38	i own the two movies and they are an ok transfer

09-12-2009, 02:27 AM	#4
mozen_1ne Active Member Member since:Feb 2009 Blu-ray collection:78	lethal weapon is as bad as the review, don't know about part two.

09-12-2009, 02:29 AM	#5
andyman1970 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Birmingham, Alabama, USA DVD collection:9 Blu-ray reviews: 45 Trading Score:7	I believe both these movies were released early in the life of Blu-ray so I would expect re-releases at some point and time.

09-12-2009, 02:48 AM	#6
captainjoe Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Alberta, Canada Home Theater Gallery:38 4K collection:1392 Blu-ray collection:4031 Blu-ray reviews: 5	The transfer of the first is dated but doesn't look too bad however the second film has awful stair stepping and looks atrocious. I'd wait until they re-release them in new transfers

09-12-2009, 03:02 AM	#7
benricci Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2008 Blu-ray reviews:1	They're not that bad.

09-15-2009, 12:38 AM	#8
Canada Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Victoria, BC Home Theater Gallery:17 4K collection:305 Blu-ray collection:1201 DVD collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:42	I would wait for the Directors Cuts unless you don't have the DVD's.

09-15-2009, 12:39 AM	#9
GGX Banned Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Kentwood, Michigan Blu-ray collection:262 Trading Score:2	Great movies. Although the current Blu-ray versions are pretty bad.

09-15-2009, 01:35 AM	#12
Elvis Banned Member since:May 2009 Location:The Jungle Room Home Theater Gallery:1 Blu-ray collection:327 DVD collection:45 Blu-ray reviews:10 Trading Score:18	They could use some good grain scrubbing!

09-15-2009, 03:32 AM	#13
Hi-Def Steve Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2009 Location:Pasadena, CA 4K collection:264 Blu-ray collection:313 DVD collection:7 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:187	I'm waiting for an eventual boxset with all 4 of them.

09-15-2009, 03:34 AM	#14
Lyle_JP Blu-ray Guru Member since:Apr 2008 Blu-ray collection:1094 Blu-ray reviews: 6	Part one actually looks excellent; exactly what this movie has always looked like, but with much more detail. This is not a spectacular looking movie but it looks about as good as you can ask on blu. Two is a whole different story. The transfer had been vertically reduced to 1440 and then improperly expanded back out to 1920, leaving behind obvious stair-stepping artifacts. Whatever merits the transfer may have, this defect makes it unwatchable, IMO. In fact, I find the Director's cut DVD upscaled to HD to be preferable.

09-15-2009, 03:37 AM	#15
LordCrumb Moderator Top contributor Member since:May 2009 Location:New Zealand Home Theater Gallery:4 4K collection:405 Blu-ray collection:2924 DVD collection:109 Blu-ray reviews: 12 Trading Score:67	I think they look crap, the print is dirty as hell IMO.

09-15-2009, 11:54 AM	#18
JRS03 Banned Member since:May 2009 Blu-ray collection:51 Blu-ray reviews:5	There was never a directors cut released for the 4th one. Only the first thru thirds to my knowledge.

09-15-2009, 12:38 PM	#20
Adam_ME Blu-ray Knight Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Katy, TX 4K collection:1220 Blu-ray collection:2103 DVD collection:83 Digital collection:5037 iTunes collection:272 Prime collection:312 Trading Score:695	The first one's alright. The second one has some serious issues with the aforementioned "stair stepping". Just look at the closing credits to see how bad it is. I just hope if/when WB reissues these titles, they still offer the theatrical cuts. I prefer those to the DCs. And BTW, where is Legal Wreckin 3 on Blu-ray? It's a cheesy flick, but I'd still like to have it.

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