Crystal Defenders vs Monsters vs Savage Moon - Blu-ray Forum

groovyone · 08-09-2009, 05:11 PM

Which one do you play?

I have played the Monsters demo over and over, but for some reason haven't bought it yet. Savage Moon was cool but for some reason I just didn't enjoy playing it all that much, and I have already played the Crystal defenders demo 5-6 times and like that one.

Shin-Ra · 08-09-2009, 06:27 PM

Monsters > Savage Moon > Crystal Defenders

Can't you get like Monsters + Encore! for less than Crystal Defenders?

groovyone · 08-09-2009, 07:59 PM

CD is $9.99.

Groo The Perverted · 08-09-2009, 08:07 PM

Savage Moon>>>>>>>>Crystal Defenders>>>>>>>>>>PixelJunk Monsters

Savage Moon has some RIDICULOUS replayability, especially with the addon pack.

Even after you beat the whole thing, you can still try to see if you can beat every level with just machine guns, or do it with none of the command credits used, or .....I mean there's just so much to do.

Plus the Vengeance Mode.

Easily one of the top 3 games I've bought for PS3/PSN.

Shin-Ra · 08-09-2009, 10:09 PM

PixelJunk Monsters is actually $10 normally too. No indication of a sale coming up soon.

I'd skip Crystal Defenders completely, it's an upscaled phone port, not a quality PS3 production.

groovyone · 08-09-2009, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Shin-Ra

PixelJunk Monsters is actually $10 normally too. No indication of a sale coming up soon.

I'd skip Crystal Defenders completely, it's an upscaled phone port, not a quality PS3 production.

Yeah....unfortunately I stupidly bought it after my first post. Let me say, save your money. I might get $10 worth of play out of it....maybe, but I think I'll finally get PJM. CD makes PJM look like a $50 game. Savage Moon was cool but just didn't seem as much fun to me. Maybe I'll retry the demo.

SoCalTiger · 08-09-2009, 11:17 PM

Monsters > Savage Moon > Comet Crash >>> Crystal Defenders

I think that Monsters is by far the best TD game by far out of these 3. Savage Moon can be a toss-up depending on your style preferences but I found the camera/cursor mechanics of Savage Moon really irritating. For better or worse I prefer a TD game to have a 2D camera and all fit into one screen. In SM you sometimes have to change the camera angle just to select a square towards the bottom of your screen. If they had just made the cursor in SM float and everything fit into the screen when fully zoomed out I might like it better than PJM.

Also, FWIW I'd pick Comet Crash over Crystal Defenders considering the cost for an upscaled phone app.

SoCalTiger · 08-09-2009, 11:43 PM

EDIT: I just went to play Savage Moon and apparently they added a bunch of options that fix a bunch of the things I thought were problems... like the fixed cursor and auto-zoom. Turning off the fixed cursor also effectively makes the map 2D too! No idea when these options were added or maybe they were always there and I'm just dumb. =P

I'm going to have to play a few rounds with the new settings and see how it works out.

Sylin · 08-10-2009, 12:16 AM

Definitely a fan of PJM. I skipped Savage Moon entirely because of the reviews, but did pick up Comet Crash and have played it a few times. Not nearly as fun as PJM, I think.

Downloaded the CD demo... I think I'll pass on the full version.

I like that with PJM you can get a ton of replayability out of it, especially if you're trying to rainbow each stage, or improve your score. My wife and I play 2-player co-op (a feature sorely lacking in so many games) and it's even more fun that way.

Boss Hogg · 08-10-2009, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by funsocaltiger

Monsters > Savage Moon > Comet Crash >>> Crystal Defenders

I think that Monsters is by far the best TD game by far out of these 3. Savage Moon can be a toss-up depending on your style preferences but I found the camera/cursor mechanics of Savage Moon really irritating. For better or worse I prefer a TD game to have a 2D camera and all fit into one screen. In SM you sometimes have to change the camera angle just to select a square towards the bottom of your screen. If they had just made the cursor in SM float and everything fit into the screen when fully zoomed out I might like it better than PJM.

TOTALLY agree - SM seems like it would have a lot of potential but the camera and cursor control really screws it up. It's also hard as h*ll -- flat out too hard in my opinion. I did download the "patch" for it but haven't messed with it much....good to hear that it 'might' have fixed the camera and control choices because previously you'd be playing the game and hear a bunch of noise but have NO IDEA what was going on because only a tiny square of real estate fit on the screen. You could zoom out but it kept zooming back in way too much.

X400 · 08-10-2009, 01:24 AM

PixelJunk Monsters>everything else

Savage moon just didnt do it for me just couldnt find it fun; and crystal defenders isnt worth the price with those graphics... looks worse than warcraft3

groovyone · 08-10-2009, 01:33 AM

Well, CD isn't too bad on the W2 world with the power crystals. At least that adds something. Yeah, the graphics would be more at home on my PSP, and still bad for that.

Icemage · 08-10-2009, 03:25 AM

PixelJunk Monsters > Savage Moon > Crystal Defenders (probably).

PJM plays and feels polished in every way - every level is interesting and unique in its own right.

Savage Moon had some quirky control problems, and I'm not enamored of the inconsistent nature of some of the higher level tower upgrades (esp. the minelaying tower). It's not bad, but it's much harder to tell when you're doing something at least "close" to right, which in all honesty is a pretty heavy strike against a tower defense game.

I haven't purchased Crystal Defenders, but the demo did not impress me at all, either in the graphics department or the dumbed-down tower defense gameplay. Maybe the full game gets better, though.

Sylin · 08-10-2009, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by groovyone

Well, CD isn't too bad on the W2 world with the power crystals. At least that adds something. Yeah, the graphics would be more at home on my PSP, and still bad for that.

Precisely. I played the demo last night and wondered why this wasn't a PSP game instead. It's set up perfectly for it. On my PS3, it just feels like another PSone classic or something.

dk3dknight · 08-10-2009, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shin-Ra

Monsters > Savage Moon > Crystal Defenders

Can't you get like Monsters + Encore! for less than Crystal Defenders?

Don't mean to be mean but I fear I disagree in my humble opinon.

Savage Moon > (Flash Tower Defense game = Final Fantasy Crystal Defender) > Pixel Junk Monster

Sylin · 08-11-2009, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dk3dknight

Don't mean to be mean but I fear I disagree in my humble opinon.

Savage Moon > (Flash Tower Defense game = Final Fantasy Crystal Defender) > Pixel Junk Monster

You put PJM LAST???

dk3dknight · 08-11-2009, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sylin

You put PJM LAST???

Im sorry but when you have played 30 or so odd tower de_ense games your stadards change..

Im just not a big pixel junk _an I respect what they do just not not or me.

: Cheers all mighty Sylin

Sylin · 08-11-2009, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dk3dknight

Im sorry but when you have played 30 or so odd tower de_ense games your stadards change..

Im just not a big pixel junk _an I respect what they do just not not or me.

: Cheers all mighty Sylin

LOL, I was messing with ya.

I have fond memories of playing Defense of the Ancients (DotA), which was a Warcraft mod, and probably one of the better tower defense games I've ever played. But as for offerings on the PS3, I agree with Icemage that PJM feels polished in every way.

Groo The Perverted · 08-11-2009, 04:30 AM

I liked the Soul Calibur II (or was it III?) mini-game that was kind of a tower defense game.

wish that was on the PS3 just by itself.

Sylin · 08-11-2009, 02:18 PM

This game is actually starting to grow on me. I dunno... maybe I have lowering standards, but I think I'm going to pick it up.

08-09-2009, 05:11 PM	#1
groovyone Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2007 Location:PSNetwork: groovyone	Crystal Defenders vs Monsters vs Savage Moon Which one do you play? I have played the Monsters demo over and over, but for some reason haven't bought it yet. Savage Moon was cool but for some reason I just didn't enjoy playing it all that much, and I have already played the Crystal defenders demo 5-6 times and like that one.

08-10-2009, 01:33 AM	#12
groovyone Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2007 Location:PSNetwork: groovyone	Well, CD isn't too bad on the W2 world with the power crystals. At least that adds something. Yeah, the graphics would be more at home on my PSP, and still bad for that. Last edited by groovyone; 08-10-2009 at 02:56 AM.

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08-09-2009, 06:27 PM	#2
Shin-Ra Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Feb 2007 Blu-ray collection:5 Trading Score:1	Monsters > Savage Moon > Crystal Defenders Can't you get like Monsters + Encore! for less than Crystal Defenders?

08-09-2009, 07:59 PM	#3
groovyone Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2007 Location:PSNetwork: groovyone	CD is $9.99.

08-09-2009, 08:07 PM	#4
Groo The Perverted Blu-ray Champion Member since:Aug 2008 Blu-ray collection:109 DVD collection:8 Trading Score:272	Savage Moon>>>>>>>>Crystal Defenders>>>>>>>>>>PixelJunk Monsters Savage Moon has some RIDICULOUS replayability, especially with the addon pack. Even after you beat the whole thing, you can still try to see if you can beat every level with just machine guns, or do it with none of the command credits used, or .....I mean there's just so much to do. Plus the Vengeance Mode. Easily one of the top 3 games I've bought for PS3/PSN.

08-09-2009, 10:09 PM	#5
Shin-Ra Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Feb 2007 Blu-ray collection:5 Trading Score:1	PixelJunk Monsters is actually $10 normally too. No indication of a sale coming up soon. I'd skip Crystal Defenders completely, it's an upscaled phone port, not a quality PS3 production.

08-09-2009, 11:17 PM	#7
SoCalTiger Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Los Angeles, CA Blu-ray collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:1	Monsters > Savage Moon > Comet Crash >>> Crystal Defenders I think that Monsters is by far the best TD game by far out of these 3. Savage Moon can be a toss-up depending on your style preferences but I found the camera/cursor mechanics of Savage Moon really irritating. For better or worse I prefer a TD game to have a 2D camera and all fit into one screen. In SM you sometimes have to change the camera angle just to select a square towards the bottom of your screen. If they had just made the cursor in SM float and everything fit into the screen when fully zoomed out I might like it better than PJM. Also, FWIW I'd pick Comet Crash over Crystal Defenders considering the cost for an upscaled phone app.

08-09-2009, 11:43 PM	#8
SoCalTiger Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Los Angeles, CA Blu-ray collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:1	EDIT: I just went to play Savage Moon and apparently they added a bunch of options that fix a bunch of the things I thought were problems... like the fixed cursor and auto-zoom. Turning off the fixed cursor also effectively makes the map 2D too! No idea when these options were added or maybe they were always there and I'm just dumb. =P I'm going to have to play a few rounds with the new settings and see how it works out.

08-10-2009, 12:16 AM	#9
Sylin Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Nashville Blu-ray collection:1 Trading Score:159	Definitely a fan of PJM. I skipped Savage Moon entirely because of the reviews, but did pick up Comet Crash and have played it a few times. Not nearly as fun as PJM, I think. Downloaded the CD demo... I think I'll pass on the full version. I like that with PJM you can get a ton of replayability out of it, especially if you're trying to rainbow each stage, or improve your score. My wife and I play 2-player co-op (a feature sorely lacking in so many games) and it's even more fun that way.

08-10-2009, 01:24 AM	#11
X400 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Kent Blu-ray collection:328 Blu-ray reviews:41 Trading Score:23	PixelJunk Monsters>everything else Savage moon just didnt do it for me just couldnt find it fun; and crystal defenders isnt worth the price with those graphics... looks worse than warcraft3

08-10-2009, 03:25 AM	#13
Icemage Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007	PixelJunk Monsters > Savage Moon > Crystal Defenders (probably). PJM plays and feels polished in every way - every level is interesting and unique in its own right. Savage Moon had some quirky control problems, and I'm not enamored of the inconsistent nature of some of the higher level tower upgrades (esp. the minelaying tower). It's not bad, but it's much harder to tell when you're doing something at least "close" to right, which in all honesty is a pretty heavy strike against a tower defense game. I haven't purchased Crystal Defenders, but the demo did not impress me at all, either in the graphics department or the dumbed-down tower defense gameplay. Maybe the full game gets better, though.

08-11-2009, 04:30 AM	#19
Groo The Perverted Blu-ray Champion Member since:Aug 2008 Blu-ray collection:109 DVD collection:8 Trading Score:272	I liked the Soul Calibur II (or was it III?) mini-game that was kind of a tower defense game. wish that was on the PS3 just by itself.

08-11-2009, 02:18 PM	#20
Sylin Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Nashville Blu-ray collection:1 Trading Score:159	This game is actually starting to grow on me. I dunno... maybe I have lowering standards, but I think I'm going to pick it up.

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