Capitalism: A Love Story.

[Lord_Stewie]

Hey,

Warning: Do Not Get Politics Involved in This thread.

Quite controversial, another Moore DOCUMENTARY/FILM set to strike at the heart of Corporate America.

Thoughts on This. IMO Michael Moore tends to deliver his point on a silver plate. However, never seen anything like this Trailer for his upcoming trailer. Yes twisted but funny if you can read between the lines (metaphorically speaking).

Every Friday night I represent /Film as a guest on the BDK Movie Show on WJFK, and tonight’s show kicked off with a great little scoop about Michael Moore. Being a DC based radio station, they were definitely (once again) in the right place, at the right time.

Lucky moviegoers in a very small number of theaters in NY, LA, Chicago and DC tonight ended up playing a part in the promotions for Michael Moore’s next documentary. As Peter told you on Thursday, the teaser trailer for Moore’s as-yet untitled ‘bailout’ film was set for premiere in cinemas today. What he couldn’t tell you then was just how unusual the first teaser trailer was, and how interactive…

Perhaps the lucky cinema patrons had some inkling that something odd was going to go down tonight when, as they walked in to take their seats, they had to pass by signs telling them that they were liable to be filmed and informing them that entering the auditorium would be, in effect, giving consent for their images to be recorded and used.

The very last trailer to be screened before the movie was something of a surprise. Shosanna Dreyfuss style, a big close-up of Michael Moore appeared on the screen, addressed the audience directly, and told them the following:

Hi, I’m Michael Moore. Instead of using this time to tell you about my new movie I’d like to take a moment and ask you to join me in helping our fellow Americans. The downturn in the economy has hurt many people, people who have had no choice but to go on government assistance. Yet our welfare agencies can only do so much. That’s why I’m asking you to reach into your pockets right now and lend a hand. Ushers will be coming down the aisles to collect your donations for Citibank, Bank of America, AIG, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan and a host of other needy banks and corporations. Won’t you please give generously? Now, I know what you’re thinking - I already gave at the bailout. And I know you did, but even if you’ve given in the past, give some more. It will make you feel… good.

During this, ushers really did walk out amongst the patrons with buckets in hand and wearing T-shirts with the slogan ‘Save our CEOs’. I don’t know if anybody dropped any cash in, or for that matter what Moore’s team would have done with any donated funds. Perhaps he’ll actually try and pass it on to the ailing institutions and film the ensuing events for the film? Sounds like a possible Moore move.

WARNING: DO NOT INVOLVE POLITICS IN THIS THREAD, KEEP IT ON THE FILM.

What do you think of this Trailer?.



Update: Aug 27th:

NY AND LA SPECIAL LIMITED ENGAGEMENT REVEALED

Overture Films has premiered the movie poster for Michael Moore’s next film, Capitalism: A Love Story, on Fandango. Also, Overture has annoucned that the film will have a special limited engagement in New York and Los Angeles. Details after the jump.

The poster is very much in the styles of the 1960’s, especially the font and coloring, which is somewhat reminiscent of Saul Bass’ poster design work. However, the character design is a bit too realistic and overly detailed to warrant that comparison. Head on over to Fandango to see the full poster. If you haven’t yet seen the trailer, check that out as well.

As you know, the film will premiere at the Toronto International Film Festival in mid-September. Overture has also revealed that the film will have one week special limited engagement in New York (Lincoln Plaza, Angelika) and Los Angeles (Arclight Hollywood, The Landmark) on September 23rd, before the film hits theaters nationwide on October 2nd 2009.

“It’s got it all — lust, passion, romance, and 14,000 jobs being eliminated every day.” - Michael Moore

CAPITALISM: A LOVE STORY tackles an issue Michael Moore has been examining throughout his career: the disastrous impact of corporate dominance on the everyday lives of Americans (and by default, the rest of the world). But this time the culprit is much bigger than General Motors, and the crime scene far wider than Flint, Michigan. From Middle America, to the halls of power in Washington, to the global financial epicenter in Manhattan, Michael Moore will once again take filmgoers into uncharted territory.

Capitalism: A Love Story hits theaters on October 2nd 2009.

Update:

Sep, 6th:

VENICE FILM FESTIVAL

Michael Moore’s latest film Capitalism: A Love Story screened at the Venice Film Festival yesterday, and the reviews and reports have begun to come in. So far the response has been very positive, a bunch of four out of five star reviews. Here is a look at the buzz from Italy:

Variety: “By returning to his roots, professional gadfly Michael Moore turns in one of his best films with Capitalism: A Love Story.” … “Unfortunately, elsewhere, Moore strives so hard to manipulate viewers’ emotions with shots of crying children and tearjerking musical choices that he’s not so much over-egging the pudding as making an omelet out of it.”

The Hollywood Reporter: “Although it’s less focused than Sicko or Fahrenheit 9/11 — whose boxoffice it should resemble — because its subject is more abstract, this is a typical Moore oeuvre: funny, often over the top and of dubious documentation, but with strongly made points that leave viewers much to ponder and debate after they walk out of the theater.” … “Simplifications are Moore?s stock-in-trade, and his documentaries are not known for their impeccable research and objectivity. But here his talent is evident in creating two hours of engrossing cinema…”

The Guardian: “Michael Moore’s latest documentary drew tumultuous applause at the Venice film festival today, suggesting that the veteran tub-thumper has lost none of his power to whip up a response. If the film finally lacks the clean, hard punch provided by the record-breaking Fahrenheit 9/11, that can only be because the crime scene is so vast and the culprits so numerous.” … “Capitalism: A Love Story is by turns crude and sentimental, impassioned and invigorating.”

Time: “Capitalism: A Love Story does not quite measure up to Moore’s Sicko in its cumulative power, and it is unlikely to equal Fahrenheit 9/11 in political impact. In many ways, though, this is Moore’s magnum opus: the grandest statement of his career-long belief that big business is screwing the hard-working little guy while government connives in the atrocity.”

ScreenDaily: “As intelligent and compulsively entertaining as his previous films” … “The conservative right will of course dismiss Moore’s elucidations as simplistic – and for the most part they would be right - yet there is a Capra-esque appeal to his pleas to redress the balance between very rich and very poor in his homeland. Moore valiantly battles the propaganda that has fused capitalism with both democracy and religion, while defending the notion of socialism which has become a curse word in the US heartland.”

InContention: “Michael Moore is this generation’s Frank Capra.By that token, Capitalism: A Love Story – an artlessly effective slice of rah-rah rhetoric more sincerely idealistic than anything the director has yet put his name to – represents Moore’s It’s a Wonderful Life.” … “The question, then, isn’t just whether Capitalism: A Love Story (a wholly meaningless title, incidentally) is a good film, but whether it really needs – or even wants – to be one. As cinema, it certainly isn’t as formally inventive or powerful as Roger & Me or Bowling for Columbine, or even as viscerally seething as Fahrenheit 9/11, but it doesn’t speak any less loudly or chidingly than those films.

AFP: “Michael Moore pulls no punches in his hard-hitting new documentary blasting “evil” capitalism” … “large doses of biting humour and a few dollops of inspiration.”

ENJOY.

[surfdude12]

where is the actual film discussed? perhaps i missed it...

[Lord_Stewie]

Originally Posted by surfdude12

where is the actual film discussed? perhaps i missed it...

What do you mean?


as far as i know you are the first to make an opinion.

I hope this answers what you are looking for:

Overture Films has finally released the first real movie trailer for documentary filmmaker Michael Moore’s new film, Capitalism: A Love Story. It shows you actual footage from the movie, unlike the previously released “Save The CEOs” teaser trailer Moore released in June. Check out the new trailer, embedded after the jump. As always, leave your thoughts in the comments below!



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Moore calls the film “the perfect date movie,” and has joked that people could call the film “A Michael Moore Comedy About the End of the World as We Know It.”


It’s got it all — lust, passion, romance and 14,000 jobs being eliminated every day. It’s a forbidden love, one that dare not speak its name. Heck, let’s just say it: It’s capitalism.

Overture Films will release Capitalism: A Love Story on October 2nd 2009, a year and a day after the United States Senate voted to approve the $700 billion bailout. It is also the same week that Moore’s feature debut Roger & Me made its U.S. Premiere 20 years ago. And this new film comes full circle, with Moore returning to the issue that began his career: “the disastrous impact that corporate dominance and out-of-control profit motives have on the lives of Americans and citizens of the world. But this time the culprit is much bigger than General Motors, and the crime scene far wider than Flint, Michigan.”

The film will “explore the root causes of the global economic meltdown and take a comical look at the corporate and political shenanigans that culminated in what Moore has described as “the biggest robbery in the history of this country” – the massive transfer of U.S. taxpayer money to private financial institutions.” Moore has made three of the top six highest-grossing documentaries of all time, but I’m wondering if people will come out for his latest in these bad economic times.

[surfdude12]

Originally Posted by shadblz

What do you mean?


as far as i know you are the first to make an opinion.

well it just seemed that the collecting money thing was a movie promo thing, did u want us to comment on that? i wasn't sure if thats a part of the movie.

[Lord_Stewie]

Hey,

Found This different version of the trailer:


CNN VERSION OF THE TRAILER.

[Lord_Stewie]

Originally Posted by surfdude12

well it just seemed that the collecting money thing was a movie promo thing, did u want us to comment on that? i wasn't sure if thats a part of the movie.

Oh I just took care of that.

plus it is part of the movie.

[surfdude12]

gotcha.

yeah, i checked out the trailer. interesting stuff. i can't figure out which side he's taking. i like how he asked the congresswoman where's our money and she has no idea! lol. he also seems to protest AIG, and the other corporations that got government rescue. can't figure out if his pitch is anti-bailout and anti-government takeover, because this would mean anti-socialism, which i can't imagine moore is. but if it is, its well worth a watch!

[Lord_Stewie]

Originally Posted by surfdude12

gotcha.

yeah, i checked out the trailer. interesting stuff. i can't figure out which side he's taking. i like how he asked the congresswoman where's our money and she has no idea! lol. he also seems to protest AIG, and the other corporations that got government rescue. can't figure out if his pitch is anti-bailout and anti-government takeover, because this would mean anti-socialism, which i can't imagine moore is. but if it is, its well worth a watch!

After all thats Michael Moore.

[Sylin]

Saw the preview earlier today.

I really like Michael Moore. I understand there are always 2 sides to every story, and everyone has an opinion, but he seems to side with the everyman more often than not. Plus, even if you don't agree with him or his subject matter, his movies make people THINK, which is good.

I enjoyed F:911, Sicko and Roger & Me is practically the biography of my youth (being the son of a long-time GM auto worker), so I'll probably see this.

[Lord_Stewie]

Originally Posted by Sylin

Saw the preview earlier today.

I really like Michael Moore. I understand there are always 2 sides to every story, and everyone has an opinion, but he seems to side with the everyman more often than not. Plus, even if you don't agree with him or his subject matter, his movies make people THINK, which is good.

I enjoyed F:911, Sicko and Roger & Me is practically the biography of my youth (being the son of a long-time GM auto worker), so I'll probably see this.

A previous Co-Manager I worked with was telling me about Roger and me, I always wanted to see this, he couldn't compare it to Bowling for Columbine but was telling me it was equivalent to it. I saw the Bowling for Columbine movie (it was the first documentary by Moore for me to see) and thought it was awesome.

How do you compare Bowling and Roger to each other?.

[DetroitSportsFan]

I enjoy Moore's films, so I'll definitely give this a watch.

[repete66211]

All politics aside, Moore has already crapped the bed. He's always had salient points, but his presentation is so biased, unsupported and at times illogical that his credibility is approaching zero Kelvin. It's a real shame too, because I think he has had some good things to say. He just doesn't know how to say them without coming across as an ass. As such, he doesn't present a compelling argument for those who aren't already in his camp, but rather just preaches to the choir. In that way, he is to documentaries what Rush Limbaugh is to journalism. Hopefully his latest work is different, but pardon me if I'm skeptical.

[Lord_Stewie]

Originally Posted by repete66211

Oh, I agree. But the problem when you cover controversial topics with such an apparent bias is that the people who don't share your views turn off. With a more level-headed presentation he might actually do some convincing. As it is, he's just preaching. And if you're familiar with some of his "documentaries" you know that he's not telling the whole truth. His is not presenting information at a true documentary does. Rather, he cherry picks items that support his underlying theme. I know all documentaries have an angle, but his works aren't being entirely honest with his audience. That's why I'm not a fan. It has nothing to do with his politics.


Yes, but if the information is presented with such an obvious bias it's no longer a documentary, it's propaganda. And who is willing to say propaganda is a good thing? I'm not. That said, I'll still check this movie out.

Never looked at his presentations in that way before (As in Propaganda but who doesn't use it nowadays). I guess I could perceive how some receives his messages.

[repete66211]

I got to admit, I said this to others that Moore's Views on things are biased there will be those agreeing with him, those disagreeing, and others thinking about what he is trying to establish as a point.

Oh, I agree. But the problem when you cover controversial topics with such an apparent bias is that the people who don't share your views turn off. With a more level-headed presentation he might actually do some convincing. As it is, he's just preaching. And if you're familiar with some of his "documentaries" you know that he's not telling the whole truth. His is not presenting information at a true documentary does. Rather, he cherry picks items that support his underlying theme. I know all documentaries have an angle, but his works aren't being entirely honest with his audience. That's why I'm not a fan. It has nothing to do with his politics.

Other than that IMO although his views are controversial/biased, but he is using a powerful tool to make people think about things and deciding wither they agree/disagree with him.

Yes, but if the information is presented with such an obvious bias it's no longer a documentary, it's propaganda. And who is willing to say propaganda is a good thing? I'm not. That said, I'll still check this movie out.

[Lord_Stewie]

Originally Posted by repete66211

Oh, I agree. But the problem when you cover controversial topics with such an apparent bias is that the people who don't share your views turn off. With a more level-headed presentation he might actually do some convincing. As it is, he's just preaching. And if you're familiar with some of his "documentaries" you know that he's not telling the whole truth. His is not presenting information at a true documentary does. Rather, he cherry picks items that support his underlying theme. I know all documentaries have an angle, but his works aren't being entirely honest with his audience. That's why I'm not a fan. It has nothing to do with his politics.


Yes, but if the information is presented with such an obvious bias it's no longer a documentary, it's propaganda. And who is willing to say propaganda is a good thing? I'm not. That said, I'll still check this movie out.

Never looked at his presentations in that way before (As in Propaganda but who doesn't use it nowadays). I guess I could perceive how some receives his messages.

[repete66211]

Originally Posted by shadblz

Never looked at his presentations in that way before. I guess I could perceive how some receives his messages.

Yeah, I don't dislike the guy I just think he is shooting himself in the foot. His work isn't documentary at all, it's polemical. They aren't educational so much as rallying points for those who already agree with him. So after the dust settles no one has changed their mind about the issue. That to me is just a waste of time. And because he's done that so many times he is dismissed out of hand (as I did just a couple of posts ago) before anyone even sees his latest work. What does that accomplish?

[Lord_Stewie]

Originally Posted by repete66211

Yeah, I don't dislike the guy I just think he is shooting himself in the foot. His work isn't documentary at all, it's polemical. They aren't educational so much as rallying points for those who already agree with him. So after the dust settles no one has changed their mind about the issue. That to me is just a waste of time. And because he's done that so many times he is dismissed out of hand (as I did just a couple of posts ago) before anyone even sees his latest work. What does that accomplish?

Although I see where you are coming from, by such movie/documentary/propaganda tends to influence people no matter what, either negatively/positively. Not all his points comes across 100% but a big number in that percentage does tend to have an influence. And I think everytime a movie by Michael Moore is released is a reason for something tragic/unacceptable during the time.

EX.

1. Bowling For Columbine (The TRAGIC High School shooting in Colorado).
2. Fahrenhiet 9/11 (NOT TO GET TOO POLITICAL ABOUT THIS About the missteps under the Bush Administration).
3. Sicko (Targets the health issues).
4. Capitalism: A Love Story (Repercussions on why the economy is bad, why people suffer).

I would say his heart in the right place. His message is somewhat/ and or distorted in a way.

[Blu Titan]

I feel very strongly about this, but I will respect the forum's wise policy on political discussions. I have no idea what this film is about but there's something I will discuss relating "Sicko". I do believe that a director's approach and credibility in one film is a blueprint for the future. Well in "Sicko" Mr. Moore flew to Cuba in March to obtain health care for three ailing Sept. 11 rescue workers as part of the documentary. Sounds nice...the Cuban government has "free" healthcare for everyone and is willing to help distressed Americans. Mr. Moore made it a point to illustrate that the Cuban health system is free for everyone and that the doctors are well trained. The before mentioned statements are 100% true, but the REAL truth will never be known from Mr Moore's documentary.

First, the Cuban health system is in shambles with little to no advanced medical equipment like CT Scans, MRI, Nuclear Medicine, ect. If a citizen gets sick and needs surgery he might have to wait for weeks until the hospital obtains the necessary supplies (antiseptics, antibiotics, anesthetics, surgical gloves, ect). When a patient is admitted to a hospital, the relatives are responsible for bringing the food on a daily basis. Blankets, pillows, soap, and similar items have to be supplied by the patient or his/her family. After the surgery, the necessary medicine is not available for the patients. From my and my wife's side of the family we have witnessed the facts above. In fact, we have a couple of relatives in Cuba for which we send their medications from Miami in a monthly basis. Mr. Moore sure knows his stuff on the health care system. And, "Sicko" was fantastic I fully expect Moore of the same in his new work.

[GORT]

Originally Posted by Sylin

Saw the preview earlier today.

I really like Michael Moore. I understand there are always 2 sides to every story, and everyone has an opinion, but he seems to side with the everyman more often than not. Plus, even if you don't agree with him or his subject matter, his movies make people THINK, which is good.

I enjoyed F:911, Sicko and Roger & Me is practically the biography of my youth (being the son of a long-time GM auto worker), so I'll probably see this.

You do know that Roger agreed to an interview for the movie and Michael Moore refused do it since that would kind of ruin his whole premise for the movie. I find it funny that people who have never run a major corporation know so much about it.

[repete66211]

Originally Posted by shadblz

Although I see where you are coming from, by such movie/documentary/propaganda tends to influence people no matter what, either negatively/positively. Not all his points comes across 100% but a big number in that percentage does tend to have an influence. And I think everytime a movie by Michael Moore is released is a reason for something tragic/unacceptable during the time.

EX.

1. Bowling For Columbine (The TRAGIC High School shooting in Colorado).
2. Fahrenhiet 9/11 (NOT TO GET TOO POLITICAL ABOUT THIS About the missteps under the Bush Administration).
3. Sicko (Targets the health issues).
4. Capitalism: A Love Story (Repercussions on why the economy is bad, why people suffer).

I would say his heart in the right place. His message is somewhat/ and or distorted in a way.

You're right, his movies do cover topical issues. I used to think he was just a good-hearted person who allows his zeal to get the best of him, but based on some of the deliberate misinformation provided in some of his movies I'm more inclined to believe he's unwilling to allow facts get in the way of his ideology.