sleeping beauty steelbook, overinflated prices

[hattersley3]

I find it hillarious ,as you look around the site and find people complaining about scalpers, and that how ridiculous the prices people are trying to sell steelbooks 3to 4 times there retail value, funny that is when ive been searching for rambo steelbook (500 dollars , 15x retail) i am legend canada steelbook (250 dollars, 8x retail value) iron man canadian steelbook (200 dollars, 7x retail) plus many more to numberous to mention. Even on this site ive offered to trade for these and my response usually is from the seller, that you are going to have to pay a lot for these, they are selling for this much on ebay. Ive been collecting blu ray steelbooks for awhile now, and have paid way over retail for many of mine,which i am alright with because i know how hard some are to find, if not impossible to find. So i dont mine paying more than retail. If you look around trading forum , everybody is selling same crappy steelbooks cause, as soon as you list movie 2-3 times higher than retail they start complaining about scalping, and decide to sell them on ebay instead. These sort of movies are a supply and demand, higher demand higher prices. I wouldnt expect you to sell your sealed rambo blu ray steelbook for 31.99 so why should i sell my sleeping beautys for 31.99, thank you had to get that off my chest

[danman227460]

1) Those steelbooks were made when people were not interested in collecting them. So when people finally caught on, the price reflected the rarity of them.
2) These were suppose to be "easy" to find as most people who wanted one would help people one
3) People actually bought MORE stock to resell at the inflated price. It isn't like those other steelbooks where people didn't know about the rarity, price or even they were a collectible.

I am just saying right now the steelbook craze has officially taken off and some people are taking advantage of it. Why can't you leave at least ONE or TWO to the people who want them instead of making a quick buck? I understand if you have one or two lying around and wanted to turn for profit but when someone buys 14 of them just to resell, it makes it seem bad. This is where the hate is coming from. You will have a hard time selling things on here and even on ebay unless a person specifically knew what they were looking for.

This is more of a morale question then anything. How can you knowingly buy 14 of them when people are actually looking for them and don't want to pay your inflated price. People don't expect you to abide by their morale codes but in a community, people help people out. If you are here just to turn a profit, ebay is the place for you.

[Arkitect76]

EXACTLY....the ones mentioned were lower in price in the beginning and appreciated in value over time.....Sleeping beauty hasnt even left FS yet and its already up there....so how can you even try to sell them at those prices? probably a year or two down the road, but that is not the "true" value of this steel one minute out of the gates, if that were the case, FS is dumb to sell these for 31.99 CAD....besides you still have 10 or so more Disney steels to contend with....so im pretty sure these prices are just to take advantage of people...

[apsmith21]

Originally Posted by hattersley3

These sort of movies are a supply and demand, higher demand higher prices. I wouldnt expect you to sell your sealed rambo blu ray steelbook for 31.99 so why should i sell my sleeping beautys for 31.99, thank you had to get that off my chest

That's funny coming from the guy who has multiple copies on e-bay right now at "inflated" prices.

EDIT: Anyone selling on here trying to scalp members is going to find it hard to ever return to trade again - you'll have to contend with the mods. Keep e-bay pricing on e-bay please.

[hattersley3]

Originally Posted by danman227460

1) Those steelbooks were made when people were not interested in collecting them. So when people finally caught on, the price reflected the rarity of them.
2) These were suppose to be "easy" to find as most people who wanted one would help people one
3) People actually bought MORE stock to resell at the inflated price. It isn't like those other steelbooks where people didn't know about the rarity, price or even they were a collectible.

I am just saying right now the steelbook craze has officially taken off and some people are taking advantage of it. Why can't you leave at least ONE or TWO to the people who want them instead of making a quick buck? I understand if you have one or two lying around and wanted to turn for profit but when someone buys 14 of them just to resell, it makes it seem bad. This is where the hate is coming from. You will have a hard time selling things on here and even on ebay unless a person specifically knew what they were looking for.

This is more of a morale question then anything. How can you knowingly buy 14 of them when people are actually looking for them and don't want to pay your inflated price. People don't expect you to abide by their morale codes but in a community, people help people out. If you are here just to turn a profit, ebay is the place for you.

are you serious moral question, how many group buys go on here ,where people go in and buy 20-30 copies to send to people all over the world. i go in buy 3-4 copies(1-2 for myself,1-2 to trade, 1-2 to sell on ebay to help pay for mine), but theres none left cause some guys just done a group buy and bought them all.And that person is applauded for getting everyones copy for them how is that any different. Its more of a question of whos got the ball in there court, when german , french , or any othre countries steelbook release comes out, cause i live in canada, i have to pay way over retail to get a copy, but when canada finally gets some steelbooks out, all international buyers start crying about not wanting to pay over retail. go through trading forum and see how much people are selling for, its not retail.

[steveland]

I agree things have gotten a bit crazy on ebay with the flood of Sleeping Beauty's.
However, I think they've been going for around 80-90 bucks right?
Therefore, if you feel like they will appreciate in price with time (or at least keep their current value) then I guess it's not that much of a hit to buy them at this price.
I plan on putting one of my sealed copies up on ebay starting for $1 with no reserve to see what the actual market value is.

[apsmith21]

Originally Posted by hattersley3

go through trading forum and see how much people are selling for, its not retail.

You are not allowed to sell a steelbook at 3x-4x times retail in the trading forum. It's been discussed over and over and there is a specific trading rule to that effect.

[richieb1971]

This situation is FS fault nobody elses.

Look at the facts -

Very limited quantities
Online pre-orders still not being addressed
One rule for one shop but another shop has no rules


That last one is the biggest culprit. I don't know how FS works, but leaving the steels behind the counter is a much better solution. Then, even if there are 3 FS in the area, thats 3 steelbooks max anyone can get without hoarding family around.

The guy who has steelbooks on ebay has exploited a situation created by someone else. Its not good, but its not his fault.

[hattersley3]

Originally Posted by apsmith21

That's funny coming from the guy who has multiple copies on e-bay right now at "inflated" prices.

EDIT: Anyone selling on here trying to scalp members is going to find it hard to ever return to trade again - you'll have to contend with the mods. Keep e-bay pricing on e-bay please.

I wouldnt sell at inflated prices on this site or any similar site, i prefer to trade, and trade very fairly, i just recently traded 2 copies of sleeping beauty for 2 copies of wolverine. Thats why i use ebay , like many other people in this forum do to sell.

[apsmith21]

Originally Posted by richieb1971

The guy who has steelbooks on ebay has exploited a situation created by someone else. Its not good, but its not his fault.

I'm not so sure about that. You can say that you're following the rules but at some point, personal responsibility comes in.

That's like blaming the fox for killing all the chickens when you left the hen house door open.

Sure, it's what he does because he's a fox, but it doesn't mean it's right.

[apsmith21]

Originally Posted by hattersley3

I wouldnt sell at inflated prices on this site or any similar site, i prefer to trade, and trade very fairly, i just recently traded 2 copies of sleeping beauty for 2 copies of wolverine. Thats why i use ebay , like many other people in this forum do to sell.

Then why are we discussing this? Your first post on this thread comes off as a justification for your current actions on e-bay.

[anomynous]

Originally Posted by hattersley3

are you serious moral question, how many group buys go on here ,where people go in and buy 20-30 copies to send to people all over the world. i go in buy 3-4 copies(1-2 for myself,1-2 to trade, 1-2 to sell on ebay to help pay for mine), but theres none left cause some guys just done a group buy and bought them all.And that person is applauded for getting everyones copy for them how is that any different. Its more of a question of whos got the ball in there court, when german , french , or any othre countries steelbook release comes out, cause i live in canada, i have to pay way over retail to get a copy, but when canada finally gets some steelbooks out, all international buyers start crying about not wanting to pay over retail. go through trading forum and see how much people are selling for, its not retail.

Because they're getting them to sell to members in other countries AT COST (mostly), not sell them at inflated prices.


You really don't see the difference?

[apsmith21]

Originally Posted by hattersley3

i go in buy 3-4 copies(1-2 for myself,1-2 to trade, 1-2 to sell on ebay to help pay for mine)

BTW, my current count for the number of copies you acquired doesn't match the numbers you have stated.

1 sold on e-bay.
2 currently listed on e-bay.
2 traded to other members for wolverine.
1-2 for yourself.
?? unaccounted for

That's it from me though, I don't have anything else to say on this subject.

[kaliraver]

Originally Posted by hattersley3

are you serious moral question, how many group buys go on here ,where people go in and buy 20-30 copies to send to people all over the world. i go in buy 3-4 copies(1-2 for myself,1-2 to trade, 1-2 to sell on ebay to help pay for mine), but theres none left cause some guys just done a group buy and bought them all.And that person is applauded for getting everyones copy for them how is that any different. Its more of a question of whos got the ball in there court, when german , french , or any othre countries steelbook release comes out, cause i live in canada, i have to pay way over retail to get a copy, but when canada finally gets some steelbooks out, all international buyers start crying about not wanting to pay over retail. go through trading forum and see how much people are selling for, its not retail.

I am on different forums and there are no group buys right now that have been successful. Most forums are getting 3-5 for a whole group buy, which is just unfair. FS really screwed the pooch on this one.

[richieb1971]

I don't think the OP has a conscience about this. So no matter what argument you put up its just wasting time.

If I were FS right now, i'd make every single steelbook pre-order online only. I don't see the point in them putting 200 up online and then a few 1000 in the shops. Its just silly.

[indiehjaerta]

Originally Posted by richieb1971

I don't think the OP has a conscience about this. So no matter what argument you put up its just wasting time.

If I were FS right now, i'd make every single steelbook pre-order online only. I don't see the point in them putting 200 up online and then a few 1000 in the shops. Its just silly.

Especially when you could be able to get 2 just buy doing that.
Getting one online and one in store.

[ran94]

Originally Posted by richieb1971

If I were FS right now, i'd make every single steelbook pre-order online only. I don't see the point in them putting 200 up online and then a few 1000 in the shops. Its just silly.

Not everyone in Canada buys online. It would cut into FS profit margin if people cannot/do not in store. Look at the debacle now for the online orders.
Total cluster*&ck. I had the same problem when I ordered Indy online. Got it one week after it was released in the store.

Regarding a few 1000 in the shops, that is why FS advertised it as Limited Quantities.

On another note, I see that Jaime is selling his "Last Copy" for $85 on another HD forum.

[iamlilc]

Originally Posted by richieb1971

I don't think the OP has a conscience about this. So no matter what argument you put up its just wasting time.

If I were FS right now, i'd make every single steelbook pre-order online only. I don't see the point in them putting 200 up online and then a few 1000 in the shops. Its just silly.

Future Shop is a retail store, not an online store like Amazon. They cannot afford to make "online only" offers unless it is absolutely necessary. I think they are trying to stop the hoarding by limiting online purchases, but it's extra work for them. Making an in-store limit doesn't seem that difficult, but it would also be more work.

Also, do you think they really care how many people are buying as long as they are all sold? The only reason they are even doing these 12 weeks of steelbooks is to get people into their stores and to buy other things while they pre-order and/or buy these limited steelbooks during the Christmas shopping season.

It's a very clever marketing strategy that they are taking advantage of because of the steelbook craze.

[Clark Kent]

I never imagined the steelbook market becoming so overheated. The low number of pressings helps, but the current prices are not sustainable in the long run. Too many steelbooks are on the market of too many movies, which eventually will lead to the bubble bursting. If I was a steelbook speculator, I would get in the next three months before the Christmas season ends.

[MaCruz]

I now currently own 2 SB (Snow White / UP). I think the only one I want now is Pinocchio. I seen prices for Sleeping Beauty and that's just insane to spend that much money. I just started looking over the steelbook forums, but I think I better back off if I have to pay high prices, especially if it's outside of the US.